Liam,

The following may help to save the list managers some liability in the
futu

----- Original Message -----
From: "Liam"
I'm not advocating ripping off other people's work! All I said was that
it's beneficial to take a look at other people's source code to get some
tips and ideas.
Liam
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Excuse me, but your words:

"Or, do what lots of people do:
copy someone else's page. Take the basic structure and as long as you
don't use any of their images, you're not doing anything illegal (at least
nothing that can be proven to be illegal)..."
Liam
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....do NOT suggest "looking at other people's source code for tips and ideas.
And to correct your further bad advice, it IS illegal. You clearly spell
out taking (your term) someone eles's code and not using the images. That
is theft and copyright infringement, pure and simple. Yes, surely you can
come up with all sorts of justification and mitigation to explain yourself
and feel good about this, but your clear suggestion is plainly unethical on
its base.

What you suggest here is no different from stealing some Apple Mac
computers, ripping the guts out and putting them into your own branded
shells and representing them as your own brand.

Go ahead and visit http://www.pirated-sites.com/ or one of the similar sites
and read about the theft, the loss the litigation and the generally
unethical goings on as a result of idiots applying their liberal approach to
theft to the web. Liam, I urge you not to use this list to urge others to
engage in unethical or illegal activity.

Kind regards,
Andy Rutledge
zone 8, Texas

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In article 002a01c3e6d2$c6472da0$0c0110ac@andy,
(Andy Rutledge) wrote:

Liam, I urge you not to use this list to urge others to
engage in unethical or illegal activity.

Woah, calm down there! Maybe I went a bit overboard on "liberalism" in my
first post. I was only trying to help. I should have said in my first
post what I said in my second - look at other people's sites for tips on
how to achieve effects and structures, eg. tables and so on.

Liam

In article 002a01c3e6d2$c6472da0$0c0110ac@andy,
(Andy Rutledge) wrote:

Liam, I urge you not to use this list to urge others to
engage in unethical or illegal activity.

Woah, calm down there! Maybe I went a bit overboard on "liberalism" in my
first post. I was only trying to help. I should have said in my first
post what I said in my second - look at other people's sites for tips on
how to achieve effects and structures, eg. tables and so on.

Liam