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Kitsune Miko 02-03-2004 01:56 AM

[IBC] soil rumor
 
The current style for soil in California is quite
coarse. the belief being that the fines clog up the
drain holes creating a soggy soil and promoting root
rot.

Kitsune Miko
--- Keith wrote:
I have heard that the use of a finer sized soil will
produce a finer
twigging of branches and smaller leafing. While a
soil that is more coarse
will not really affect the leafing or branching but
will encourage a more
fibrous root system. Does anyone know which, if
either, is true?

Keith
Eastern NC


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Jim Lewis 02-03-2004 01:59 AM

[IBC] soil rumor
 
I have heard that the use of a finer sized soil will produce a
finer
twigging of branches and smaller leafing. While a soil that is

more coarse
will not really affect the leafing or branching but will

encourage a more
fibrous root system. Does anyone know which, if either, is

true?


There's probably a third option: Neither.

I suspect this ranks right up there with the bonsai myth that
soil with sharp particles will cause roots to divide when they
hit one of those razor-edged particles.

Soil with fine particles is likely to hold more water for longer
periods, which depending on your climate could be good or bad.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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Kitsune Miko 02-03-2004 02:07 AM

[IBC] soil rumor
 
The current style for soil in California is quite
coarse. the belief being that the fines clog up the
drain holes creating a soggy soil and promoting root
rot.

Kitsune Miko
--- Keith wrote:
I have heard that the use of a finer sized soil will
produce a finer
twigging of branches and smaller leafing. While a
soil that is more coarse
will not really affect the leafing or branching but
will encourage a more
fibrous root system. Does anyone know which, if
either, is true?

Keith
Eastern NC


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Rutledge++++

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+++++


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Jim Lewis 02-03-2004 02:46 AM

[IBC] soil rumor
 
I have heard that the use of a finer sized soil will produce a
finer
twigging of branches and smaller leafing. While a soil that is

more coarse
will not really affect the leafing or branching but will

encourage a more
fibrous root system. Does anyone know which, if either, is

true?


There's probably a third option: Neither.

I suspect this ranks right up there with the bonsai myth that
soil with sharp particles will cause roots to divide when they
hit one of those razor-edged particles.

Soil with fine particles is likely to hold more water for longer
periods, which depending on your climate could be good or bad.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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Jim Lewis 02-03-2004 02:46 AM

[IBC] soil rumor
 
I have heard that the use of a finer sized soil will produce a
finer
twigging of branches and smaller leafing. While a soil that is

more coarse
will not really affect the leafing or branching but will

encourage a more
fibrous root system. Does anyone know which, if either, is

true?


There's probably a third option: Neither.

I suspect this ranks right up there with the bonsai myth that
soil with sharp particles will cause roots to divide when they
hit one of those razor-edged particles.

Soil with fine particles is likely to hold more water for longer
periods, which depending on your climate could be good or bad.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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Jim Lewis 02-03-2004 03:20 AM

[IBC] soil rumor
 
I have heard that the use of a finer sized soil will produce a
finer
twigging of branches and smaller leafing. While a soil that is

more coarse
will not really affect the leafing or branching but will

encourage a more
fibrous root system. Does anyone know which, if either, is

true?


There's probably a third option: Neither.

I suspect this ranks right up there with the bonsai myth that
soil with sharp particles will cause roots to divide when they
hit one of those razor-edged particles.

Soil with fine particles is likely to hold more water for longer
periods, which depending on your climate could be good or bad.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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Shelly Hurd 02-03-2004 03:28 AM

[IBC] soil rumor
 
Sounds like hooey to me. Another myth. Finer soil will do far more harm than good.
Others can go into this further, I'm L A T E !
Regards,
Shelly Hurd Central CA - Sunset Zone 8-USDA Zone 9

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From: Keith
To:

Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:08 PM
Subject: [IBC] soil rumor


I have heard that the use of a finer sized soil will produce a finer
twigging of branches and smaller leafing. While a soil that is more coarse
will not really affect the leafing or branching but will encourage a more
fibrous root system. Does anyone know which, if either, is true?

Keith
Eastern NC

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Michael Persiano 02-03-2004 12:01 PM

[IBC] soil rumor
 
In a message dated 3/1/2004 8:25:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
writes:
Soil with fine particles is likely to hold more water for longer
periods, which depending on your climate could be good or bad.
Jim is moving in the right direction with this response. Depending on your
growing environment, the particular species, and your particular watering
habits, either a faster or slower draining soil will do the job.

Those of you using Akadama are in another soil category with respect to how
the particles work when the tree is watered or fertilized.

Cordially,

Michael Persiano
http://members.aol.com/iasnob/index.html

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Michael Persiano 02-03-2004 01:32 PM

[IBC] soil rumor
 
In a message dated 3/1/2004 8:25:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
writes:
Soil with fine particles is likely to hold more water for longer
periods, which depending on your climate could be good or bad.
Jim is moving in the right direction with this response. Depending on your
growing environment, the particular species, and your particular watering
habits, either a faster or slower draining soil will do the job.

Those of you using Akadama are in another soil category with respect to how
the particles work when the tree is watered or fertilized.

Cordially,

Michael Persiano
http://members.aol.com/iasnob/index.html

************************************************** ******************************
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************************************************** ******************************
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Michael Persiano 02-03-2004 02:10 PM

[IBC] soil rumor
 
In a message dated 3/1/2004 8:25:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
writes:
Soil with fine particles is likely to hold more water for longer
periods, which depending on your climate could be good or bad.
Jim is moving in the right direction with this response. Depending on your
growing environment, the particular species, and your particular watering
habits, either a faster or slower draining soil will do the job.

Those of you using Akadama are in another soil category with respect to how
the particles work when the tree is watered or fertilized.

Cordially,

Michael Persiano
http://members.aol.com/iasnob/index.html

************************************************** ******************************
++++Sponsored, in part, by Ken Rutledge++++
************************************************** ******************************
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+++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++

Michael Persiano 02-03-2004 02:20 PM

[IBC] soil rumor
 
In a message dated 3/1/2004 8:25:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
writes:
Soil with fine particles is likely to hold more water for longer
periods, which depending on your climate could be good or bad.
Jim is moving in the right direction with this response. Depending on your
growing environment, the particular species, and your particular watering
habits, either a faster or slower draining soil will do the job.

Those of you using Akadama are in another soil category with respect to how
the particles work when the tree is watered or fertilized.

Cordially,

Michael Persiano
http://members.aol.com/iasnob/index.html

************************************************** ******************************
++++Sponsored, in part, by Ken Rutledge++++
************************************************** ******************************
-- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ --

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