And you can generally do away
with 1/3 to half the roots easily
with top trimming and maybe
fit it INTO a nice bonsai pot
right from start!!!!!!!


Only if you are one of those for whom instant gratification is
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thanks for all the help,

lastely does anyone know of a web site that has the various
trees that
can be found in pennsylvania?


Google for "Pennsylvania tree." But since Pa is part of the
eastern deciduous forest, any state along the US eastern seaboard
will have the same trees. Nothing endemic to Pa. that I am aware
of.

Go he http://www.treeguide.com/

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In a message dated 3/4/2004 12:30:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, writes:


I have the opportunity to go out of the city into the western
Pennsylvania or the pocono's as they call it. I wanted to look for a
good bonsai tree to fit the nice Bonsai pot I have. I am going to be
looking for something with a nice, thick trunk, and not something that
is a stick in the mud Anyone have any suggestions on what makes a
good bonsai tree out here in PA? Any pictures of what grows around here
on the web? Also any techniques on how to do this? For
example root
pruning and such....
The chances of finding a "good" bonsai in the woods are slim. A tree with the right trunk thickness will probably be too tall with branches too high to be suitable for a bonsai pot. you have to be prepared to either collect saplings and let them grow awhi
le, or you will have to cut back a taller tree and train it to branch at a suitable height. either way it will take years.
I have crab apples that I collected from an old orchard 7 years ago. they were young trees that I had to cut way back. they are just starting to look good now.
You won't find the perfect bonsai tree in the woods unless you find the one in a million that was hit by lightning a few times. you would stand a better chance of finding a small tree with a thick trunk in a field that has been worked and trees are consta
ntly hacked. farms are a good places to look.
good luck with your trip.
SteveW
Long Island NY

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Steve wachs wrote:

In a message dated 3/4/2004 12:30:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, writes:
snip
The chances of finding a "good" bonsai in the woods are slim. A tree with the right trunk thickness will probably be too tall with branches too high to be suitable for a bonsai pot.

snip

you would stand a better chance of finding a small tree with a thick trunk in a field that has been worked and trees are constantly hacked. farms are a good places to look.
good luck with your trip.
SteveW
Long Island NY

I have had pretty good luck in pastures too. Another situation that will yield good results is rock outcroppings--ledge. Trees can't put down taproots and can develop wonderful bases because they spread rather than grow deep.

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

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Steve wachs wrote:

In a message dated 3/4/2004 12:30:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, writes:
snip
The chances of finding a "good" bonsai in the woods are slim. A tree with the right trunk thickness will probably be too tall with branches too high to be suitable for a bonsai pot.

snip

you would stand a better chance of finding a small tree with a thick trunk in a field that has been worked and trees are constantly hacked. farms are a good places to look.
good luck with your trip.
SteveW
Long Island NY

I have had pretty good luck in pastures too. Another situation that will yield good results is rock outcroppings--ledge. Trees can't put down taproots and can develop wonderful bases because they spread rather than grow deep.

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

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I a sure there are plenty of Maples, Elms,Beech, Birch and possibly Larch.
These are your basic varieties, whether they are better than the rest of The
US that remains to be seen.

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I a sure there are plenty of Maples, Elms,Beech, Birch and possibly Larch.
These are your basic varieties, whether they are better than the rest of The
US that remains to be seen.

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I a sure there are plenty of Maples, Elms,Beech, Birch and possibly Larch.
These are your basic varieties, whether they are better than the rest of The
US that remains to be seen.

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I a sure there are plenty of Maples, Elms,Beech, Birch and possibly Larch.
These are your basic varieties, whether they are better than the rest of The
US that remains to be seen.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Cowing"

I have had pretty good luck in pastures too. Another situation that will
yield good results is rock outcroppings--ledge. Trees can't put down
taproots and can develop wonderful bases because they spread rather than
grow deep.


Rock outcroppings and ledges can contain some really nice looking bonsai
candidates. The problem around here is that they usually have a root or two
disappearing into a crack in the rock, with no other fine roots near the
trunk. They are impossible to collect. :-(

Regards,
Roger Snipes Spokane, WA Zone 5, or maybe Zone 6.
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and then misapplying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marx (1895-1977)

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Cowing"

I have had pretty good luck in pastures too. Another situation that will
yield good results is rock outcroppings--ledge. Trees can't put down
taproots and can develop wonderful bases because they spread rather than
grow deep.


Rock outcroppings and ledges can contain some really nice looking bonsai
candidates. The problem around here is that they usually have a root or two
disappearing into a crack in the rock, with no other fine roots near the
trunk. They are impossible to collect. :-(

Regards,
Roger Snipes Spokane, WA Zone 5, or maybe Zone 6.
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and then misapplying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marx (1895-1977)

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Cowing"

I have had pretty good luck in pastures too. Another situation that will
yield good results is rock outcroppings--ledge. Trees can't put down
taproots and can develop wonderful bases because they spread rather than
grow deep.


Rock outcroppings and ledges can contain some really nice looking bonsai
candidates. The problem around here is that they usually have a root or two
disappearing into a crack in the rock, with no other fine roots near the
trunk. They are impossible to collect. :-(

Regards,
Roger Snipes Spokane, WA Zone 5, or maybe Zone 6.
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and then misapplying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marx (1895-1977)

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Rock outcroppings and ledges can contain some really nice
looking bonsai
candidates. The problem around here is that they usually have
a root or two
disappearing into a crack in the rock, with no other fine roots
near the
trunk. They are impossible to collect. :-(

Around here, rock outcrops are often also equipped with a
rattlesnake. So be careful!

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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Rock outcroppings and ledges can contain some really nice
looking bonsai
candidates. The problem around here is that they usually have
a root or two
disappearing into a crack in the rock, with no other fine roots
near the
trunk. They are impossible to collect. :-(

Around here, rock outcrops are often also equipped with a
rattlesnake. So be careful!

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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Roger Snipes wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Cowing"

I have had pretty good luck in pastures too. Another situation that will
yield good results is rock outcroppings--ledge. Trees can't put down
taproots and can develop wonderful bases because they spread rather than
grow deep.


Rock outcroppings and ledges can contain some really nice looking bonsai
candidates. The problem around here is that they usually have a root or two
disappearing into a crack in the rock, with no other fine roots near the
trunk. They are impossible to collect. :-(

Regards,
Roger Snipes Spokane, WA Zone 5, or maybe Zone 6.
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it,
and then misapplying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marx (1895-1977)

That kind is indeed impossible to collect. What is best is a tree growing on top
of the ledge with no cracks. The roots may spread out, but they don't go down.
And, you don't know that until you explore.

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

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