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Old 26-01-2003, 09:46 AM
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The reply will depend on where you are. Vines are deciduous and they
should appear dead during winter. You should be very careful they are
not overwatered and not frozen too hard. My vines are watered lightly
probably three times only through the winter. Provided you are not
overwatering it should survive.

Try searching for Vitis vinifera and bonsai you should come up with some
better results.

Cheers

Kev Bailey


OK, I need help. I've spent hours and hours and I've come up with
next to nothing on this topic. Issue: I recently got a wine grape
bonsai. I love it... but I might as well be watering it with
gasoline. I'm killing it bad. This was given to me by a lady friend,
and if I kill it, she will exact revenge on me in ways too horrible to
describe. So... does anyone out there know how to care for a wine
grape bonsai?

Thanks in advance.

Daze



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Old 26-01-2003, 01:09 PM
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OK, I need help. I've spent hours and hours and I've come up
with
next to nothing on this topic. Issue: I recently got a wine

grape
bonsai. I love it... but I might as well be watering it with
gasoline. I'm killing it bad. This was given to me by a lady

friend,
and if I kill it, she will exact revenge on me in ways too

horrible to
describe. So... does anyone out there know how to care for a

wine
grape bonsai?

Thanks in advance.

Daze


Care for them pretty much like any other bonsai, and do not
overwater -- especially in winter.

Let the soil dry out between waterings.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is
frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry
David Thoreau - Walden

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Old 26-01-2003, 01:31 PM
Carl L Rosner
 
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Try this URL:
http://www.softcom.net/users/dziemann/

The above is the pages of Don Ziemann, who knows a lot about raising
grape Vine Bonsai.

Carl L. Rosner

Daze wrote:

OK, I need help. I've spent hours and hours and I've come up with
next to nothing on this topic. Issue: I recently got a wine grape
bonsai. I love it... but I might as well be watering it with
gasoline. I'm killing it bad. This was given to me by a lady friend,
and if I kill it, she will exact revenge on me in ways too horrible to
describe. So... does anyone out there know how to care for a wine
grape bonsai?

Thanks in advance.

Daze





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Old 31-01-2003, 04:56 AM
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Oh, you beat me to it Carl. Shoot! That is one great page.

Speaking of grapes. I have a grape that was growing on my property
when we bought it. The lot next door was vacant and the previous
owners took liberty with the property line. Well, soon after we moved
in the owners decided to build and I had to move the grape. I put it
in a great big 20-25 gallon pot right along with the original soil.
That was over a year ago. It grew well last year even after being
nearly defoliated by late frosts 2-3 times.

This last week I decided it was time to get it in some better soil.
Low and behold I found that the ground level on it had been raised
three times as it had three distinct rings of roots growing down
there. All active. So I separated and divide the lower two and potted
them up too! Now I have three grapes if they take, which I am fully
expecting them to do.

Steven
Northern California
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Old 31-01-2003, 01:03 PM
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You know you can take some cuttings of the grape vines (as Don Ziemann
described to me) and put them in a deep pot with coarse sand and water
it several times a day. (In March several years ago, Don sent me three
cuttings, just looked like a hunk of gnarly wood 3 to 4 inches in width
and about 12 inches long. They all developed canes which leafed out and
by fall I could see new roots starting above the soil line. (When I
repotted the following spring there was a plethora of roots.) I still
have two of them, but have never been able to obtain grapes, which I
expect is due to the lack of sun intensity here in New Jersey. It was a
fun experience. :-(

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Steven-Royal Gold Reps wrote:

Oh, you beat me to it Carl. Shoot! That is one great page.

Speaking of grapes. I have a grape that was growing on my property
when we bought it. The lot next door was vacant and the previous
owners took liberty with the property line. Well, soon after we moved
in the owners decided to build and I had to move the grape. I put it
in a great big 20-25 gallon pot right along with the original soil.
That was over a year ago. It grew well last year even after being
nearly defoliated by late frosts 2-3 times.

This last week I decided it was time to get it in some better soil.
Low and behold I found that the ground level on it had been raised
three times as it had three distinct rings of roots growing down
there. All active. So I separated and divide the lower two and potted
them up too! Now I have three grapes if they take, which I am fully
expecting them to do.

Steven
Northern California




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Old 31-01-2003, 01:31 PM
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You know you can take some cuttings of the grape vines (as Don
Ziemann
described to me) and put them in a deep pot with coarse sand

and water
it several times a day. (In March several years ago, Don sent

me three
cuttings, just looked like a hunk of gnarly wood 3 to 4 inches

in width
and about 12 inches long. They all developed canes which

leafed out and
by fall I could see new roots starting above the soil line.

(When I
repotted the following spring there was a plethora of roots.) I

still
have two of them, but have never been able to obtain grapes,

which I
expect is due to the lack of sun intensity here in New Jersey.

It was a
fun experience. :-(


But don't limit yourself to domestic wine grapes. Up and down
the North American east coast there are a plethora of native
grapes that can make very nice bonsai. In the oak woods down
here you can find muscadine grapes (Vitis rotundifolia) with
trunks as big around as my leg. I have one starting up that will
go in its first bonsai pot this spring, and a shohin size that
has been potted up a couple of years now.

I don't know what the native grape situation is in the west.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is
frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry
David Thoreau - Walden

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Here are a couple of things I found by searching on metacrawler.com
for "native california grape".

http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ecoph18.htm
A native California wild grape (Vitis girdiana) that grows in canyon
bottoms and along streams in southern California. This species often
forms massive vines that drape over large trees such as coast live oak
(Quercus agrifolia). It intergrades with the very similar V.
californica of central and northern California.

http://members.frys.com/~bpmosley/Mah_aqu.HTM

http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/1998/981201.htm

http://www.mostlynatives.com/notes/v...ger%27sred.htm


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I don't know what the native grape situation is in the west.

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