[IBC] FW: [IBC] Please be gentle !!
 

Wow !!
Thanks to all who've responded to my newbie questions.
Not only have you solved my pending bonsai issues, you've helped salvage
my garden!!
Now, does anyone know anything about hot water heaters ???
Just kidding :-)

As Bart suggested, it is my intention to rent a rototiller and "soften"
the beds.
I then intended to remove about 1/3 of the existing soil (clay) and
replace it with twice as much organics.
That way I should end up with equal parts clay and organics. The results
(I'm hoping) will be raised beds.
Around the shrubs I intend on digging them up, digging a much bigger
hole (3 X larger??), and filling the hole with an organic/clay mixture.

The only problem I foresee is drainage.
However, puddles don't form now, so I imagine it must be running through
the existing clay substructure.

One remaining question ..... Calcium Sulfate ?????
I imagine I can pick this up at a nursery.
How much should I be looking for ???
Don't want to purchase it in 5 pound bags if the job needs 3 tons !!

Thanks to everyone for your help.
Looks like I've found a new group of friends.

Mark Hill - Harrisburg PA, Zone 6 (where it's currently 9 deg F)

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[IBC] FW: [IBC] Please be gentle !!
 

Mark Hill wrote:

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As Bart suggested, it is my intention to rent a rototiller and "soften"
the beds.
I then intended to remove about 1/3 of the existing soil (clay) and
replace it with twice as much organics.
That way I should end up with equal parts clay and organics. The results
(I'm hoping) will be raised beds.
Around the shrubs I intend on digging them up, digging a much bigger
hole (3 X larger??), and filling the hole with an organic/clay mixture.


You might think about raised beds for your shrubs, with a border made of railroad
ties or something else. This could be done in addition to tilling the soil as Bart
suggested.

I found when I was doing vegetable gardening that peat and manure helped loosen the
soil up. Some gravel or sand might help for drainage.


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Thanks to everyone for your help.
Looks like I've found a new group of friends.

Mark Hill - Harrisburg PA, Zone 6 (where it's currently 9 deg F)

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a
An even 0 this morning.

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[IBC] FW: [IBC] Please be gentle !!
 

Wow !!
Thanks to all who've responded to my newbie questions.
Not only have you solved my pending bonsai issues, you've
helped salvage
my garden!!
Now, does anyone know anything about hot water heaters ???
Just kidding :-)


Yeah. Get a plumber. ;-)

As Bart suggested, it is my intention to rent a rototiller and
"soften"
the beds.
I then intended to remove about 1/3 of the existing soil (clay)
and
replace it with twice as much organics.
That way I should end up with equal parts clay and organics.
The results
(I'm hoping) will be raised beds.

You probably will need to till the mixture 3-4 times to ensure
that it is properly mixed and that the clay is in small enough
particles. Otherwise, clay "clumps" and you will have rock-solid
clods mixed through your beds.

Around the shrubs I intend on digging them up, digging a much
bigger
hole (3 X larger??), and filling the hole with an organic/clay
mixture.

The only problem I foresee is drainage.
However, puddles don't form now, so I imagine it must be
running through
the existing clay substructure.

One solution is to take a post-hole digger and dig vertical holes
2-3 feet deep at several points in the beds (BEFORE you replace
the soil, and fill these holes with coarse sand). Another is as
you and Craig said, make raised beds, and rest the railroad ties
or blocks or whatever you use to hold the bed together on a thick
layer of sand so excess water can drain out under the wall.
This, however, can result in problems later on if there is NO
downward drainage at all in the bed.

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Thanks to everyone for your help.
Looks like I've found a new group of friends.

Another new friend you should make is your local Agricultural
Extension Office (check the local government listings in the
phone book (blue section, probably)). Folks there know LOCAL
garden/soil/plant problems and can suggest solutions and sources
much better than we can. For the Pa. (and other state) Extension
check: http://www.reeusda.gov/1700/statepartners/usa.htm

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is
frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry
David Thoreau - Walden

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