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[IBC] oiling mica pots
I tried something on a mica pot a few days ago, thinking of
getting trees ready for the wedding (horrors--one or two will be in mica pots!). I sanded the pot with 150 grit sandpaper, then 300, making sure to sand with the length of the pot in mind so there wouldn't be any wayward scratches. I didn't really bear down, just sanded enough to even out the surface. I then tried rubbing on mineral oil, which I use on unglazed ceramic pots for displays. The mineral oil evaporated fairly quickly, so I tried vegetable oil instead. Works great. The sanding evens out the marks from the molds and gives the pot more of a matte surface as opposed to one that is rather glossy. The oiling gives it a nice low lustre. Has anyone else tried this? Sounds like a good idea, but most of my mica pots have squirrel tooth on their rims by the end of their first year of use. It would take more than a "light" sanding to get rid of them. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it should have - Paul Bigelow Sears. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] oiling mica pots
I tried something on a mica pot a few days ago, thinking of
getting trees ready for the wedding (horrors--one or two will be in mica pots!). I sanded the pot with 150 grit sandpaper, then 300, making sure to sand with the length of the pot in mind so there wouldn't be any wayward scratches. I didn't really bear down, just sanded enough to even out the surface. I then tried rubbing on mineral oil, which I use on unglazed ceramic pots for displays. The mineral oil evaporated fairly quickly, so I tried vegetable oil instead. Works great. The sanding evens out the marks from the molds and gives the pot more of a matte surface as opposed to one that is rather glossy. The oiling gives it a nice low lustre. Has anyone else tried this? Sounds like a good idea, but most of my mica pots have squirrel tooth on their rims by the end of their first year of use. It would take more than a "light" sanding to get rid of them. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it should have - Paul Bigelow Sears. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] oiling mica pots
Sounds like a good idea, but most of my mica pots have squirrel tooth
on their rims by the end of their first year of use. It would take more than a "light" sanding to get rid of them. Hmmmm. Sanding to get rid of squirrels? That's a novel approach grin Nic Aotearoa/New Zealand. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] oiling mica pots
Sounds like a good idea, but most of my mica pots have squirrel tooth
on their rims by the end of their first year of use. It would take more than a "light" sanding to get rid of them. Hmmmm. Sanding to get rid of squirrels? That's a novel approach grin Nic Aotearoa/New Zealand. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lewis" Sounds like a good idea, but most of my mica pots have squirrel tooth on their rims by the end of their first year of use. It would take more than a "light" sanding to get rid of them. Sound like you need to use pepper oil ;-) ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lewis" Sounds like a good idea, but most of my mica pots have squirrel tooth on their rims by the end of their first year of use. It would take more than a "light" sanding to get rid of them. Sound like you need to use pepper oil ;-) ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Lynn Boyd wrote:
Craig - Yes - I have tried it - and it does improve the look, very temporarily, then collects dust and looks worse than before oiling. Spraying it with water won't wash off the dust. Have you tried shoe polish? Lynn Lynn Boyd, Oregon, USA Interesting thought. This isn't long term--just for display. I haven't tried shoe polish. I don't polish my shoes so I don't have any around. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Lynn Boyd wrote:
Craig - Yes - I have tried it - and it does improve the look, very temporarily, then collects dust and looks worse than before oiling. Spraying it with water won't wash off the dust. Have you tried shoe polish? Lynn Lynn Boyd, Oregon, USA Interesting thought. This isn't long term--just for display. I haven't tried shoe polish. I don't polish my shoes so I don't have any around. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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In California, we are using a sock full of ground
walnuts to oil pots. I have used this on my mica pot. It looks good for a show, no dust sticks, and it goes away till next time. Kitsune Miko --- Lynn Boyd wrote: Craig - Yes - I have tried it - and it does improve the look, very temporarily, then collects dust and looks worse than before oiling. Spraying it with water won't wash off the dust. Have you tried shoe polish? Lynn Lynn Boyd, Oregon, USA Subject: [IBC] oiling mica pots I tried something on a mica pot a few days ago, thinking of getting trees ready for the wedding (horrors--one or two will be in mica pots!). I sanded the pot with 150 grit sandpaper, then 300, making sure to sand with the length of the pot in mind so there wouldn't be any wayward scratches. I didn't really bear down, just sanded enough to even out the surface. I then tried rubbing on mineral oil, which I use on unglazed ceramic pots for displays. The mineral oil evaporated fairly quickly, so I tried vegetable oil instead. Works great. The sanding evens out the marks from the molds and gives the pot more of a matte surface as opposed to one that is rather glossy. The oiling gives it a nice low lustre. Has anyone else tried this? Craig Cowing ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ===== **** "Expectations are resentments under construction." Anne Lamott ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Jim Lewis wrote:
snip Sounds like a good idea, but most of my mica pots have squirrel tooth on their rims by the end of their first year of use. It would take more than a "light" sanding to get rid of them. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it should have - Paul Bigelow Sears. What are you feeding (or not feeding) the squirrels down there? I've got a bunch of oak trees in the yard--red and white oak. They're so busy with the acorns that chewing on my mica pots is obviously very low on their list of things to do because they never bother them. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Kitsune Miko wrote:
In California, we are using a sock full of ground walnuts to oil pots. I have used this on my mica pot. It looks good for a show, no dust sticks, and it goes away till next time. Kitsune Miko I'll try that. Thanks for the suggestion. Does this work for both ceramic and mica pots? Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Kitsune Miko wrote:
In California, we are using a sock full of ground walnuts to oil pots. I have used this on my mica pot. It looks good for a show, no dust sticks, and it goes away till next time. Kitsune Miko I'll try that. Thanks for the suggestion. Does this work for both ceramic and mica pots? Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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--- Craig Cowing wrote:
Kitsune Miko wrote: In California, we are using a sock full of ground walnuts to oil pots. I have used this on my mica pot. It looks good for a show, no dust sticks, and it goes away till next time. Kitsune Miko I'll try that. Thanks for the suggestion. Does this work for both ceramic and mica pots? This works on all types of pots. The sock of course is ruined, but you can change socks and keep the ground nuts in the freezer until needed again. I use a double sock, washing the outer one after use. Kitsune Miko ===== **** "Expectations are resentments under construction." Anne Lamott ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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--- Craig Cowing wrote:
Kitsune Miko wrote: In California, we are using a sock full of ground walnuts to oil pots. I have used this on my mica pot. It looks good for a show, no dust sticks, and it goes away till next time. Kitsune Miko I'll try that. Thanks for the suggestion. Does this work for both ceramic and mica pots? This works on all types of pots. The sock of course is ruined, but you can change socks and keep the ground nuts in the freezer until needed again. I use a double sock, washing the outer one after use. Kitsune Miko ===== **** "Expectations are resentments under construction." Anne Lamott ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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In a message dated 8/2/2004 8:14:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Craig Cowing writes:
The mineral oil evaporated fairly quickly, so I tried vegetable oil instead. Works great. The sanding evens out the marks from the molds and gives the pot more of a matte surface as opposed to one that is rather glossy. The oiling gives it a nice low lustre. Has anyone else tried this? Craig: The oiling of pots is a common practice amongst those who photograph bonsai for magazines and books. I do the following: 1. Clean the pot with water and a brush. 2. When the pot is dry, apply Johnson's Baby Oil with a scrubby. The application will only last for 5-7 days, depending upon the temperature. Cordially, Michael Persiano members.aol.com/iasnob Craig Cowing ************************************************* ******************************* ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************* ******************************* -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lewis" Subject: [IBC] oiling mica pots Sounds like a good idea, but most of my mica pots have squirrel tooth on their rims by the end of their first year of use. It would take more than a "light" sanding to get rid of them. Jim Lewis Ditto here Jim, that is one of the problems with using mica "training pots" as a less expensive alternate to good ceramic, but it's a lost savings when the squirrels ruin the pots!! You'd think with 3 dogs and 3 cats I'd NEVER see a squirrel !!!! I keep a rag and bottle of baby oil or plain ( unscented) mineral oil at my work station. Use it on every pot when done working. Years ago when I was out of mineral oil I used cooking oil for a while but found the rags got rancid smelling quickly. Never did the sanding. That's just TOO MUCH work for a training pot! :) Dale ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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"David J. Bockman" wrote:
It's my understanding that mica pots are made of a material quite close in composition to that of modern automobile bumpers, so perhaps a substance more like Armorall or other hard plastic protectant would work as well. David J. Bockman, Fairfax, VA (USDA Hardiness Zone 7) Bunabayashi Bonsai On The World Wide Web: http://www.bunabayashi.com email: Now THAT's a sensible idea. I'll try it! Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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"David J. Bockman" wrote:
It's my understanding that mica pots are made of a material quite close in composition to that of modern automobile bumpers, so perhaps a substance more like Armorall or other hard plastic protectant would work as well. David J. Bockman, Fairfax, VA (USDA Hardiness Zone 7) Bunabayashi Bonsai On The World Wide Web: http://www.bunabayashi.com email: Now THAT's a sensible idea. I'll try it! Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Lynn Boyd wrote:
Craig - Yes - I have tried it - and it does improve the look, very temporarily, then collects dust and looks worse than before oiling. Spraying it with water won't wash off the dust. Have you tried shoe polish? Lynn Lynn Boyd, Oregon, USA Interesting thought. This isn't long term--just for display. I haven't tried shoe polish. I don't polish my shoes so I don't have any around. I can do you better than that. I don't have any shoes (just sandals) -- but I will have some by mid October, Craig. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Bonsaiests are like genealogists: We know our roots! ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Jim Lewis wrote:
Lynn Boyd wrote: Craig - Yes - I have tried it - and it does improve the look, very temporarily, then collects dust and looks worse than before oiling. Spraying it with water won't wash off the dust. Have you tried shoe polish? Lynn Lynn Boyd, Oregon, USA Interesting thought. This isn't long term--just for display. I haven't tried shoe polish. I don't polish my shoes so I don't have any around. I can do you better than that. I don't have any shoes (just sandals) -- but I will have some by mid October, Craig. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Bonsaiests are like genealogists: We know our roots! Actually, you might be better off not wearing shoes. That way security at the airport won't need to have you take them off! ;0) Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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I wish that were true. I have huge oak trees all around my house, and the only two bonsai pots that the squirrels show any interest in are two mica pots with 3-tree gingko plantings. They tear those plantings up at least once a week. I must not be living right...
-----Original Message----- From: Internet Bonsai Club ] On Behalf Of Craig Cowing Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 6:59 PM To: Subject: [IBC] oiling mica pots dalecochoy wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lewis" Subject: [IBC] oiling mica pots Sounds like a good idea, but most of my mica pots have squirrel tooth on their rims by the end of their first year of use. It would take more than a "light" sanding to get rid of them. Jim Lewis Ditto here Jim, that is one of the problems with using mica "training pots" as a less expensive alternate to good ceramic, but it's a lost savings when the squirrels ruin the pots!! You'd think with 3 dogs and 3 cats I'd NEVER see a squirrel !!!! I keep a rag and bottle of baby oil or plain ( unscented) mineral oil at my work station. Use it on every pot when done working. Years ago when I was out of mineral oil I used cooking oil for a while but found the rags got rancid smelling quickly. Never did the sanding. That's just TOO MUCH work for a training pot! :) Dale I guess you guys just don't live right. ;0] If you had oak trees near you the squirrels would have no interest in your mica pots. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Interesting thought. This isn't long term--just for
display. I haven't tried shoe polish. I don't polish my shoes so I don't have any around. I can do you better than that. I don't have any shoes (just sandals) -- but I will have some by mid October, Craig. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Bonsaiests are like genealogists: We know our roots! Actually, you might be better off not wearing shoes. That way security at the airport won't need to have you take them off! ;0) Oh, rest assured that shoes won't enclose my feet until 5 minutes before I step into the Church, Craig. ;-) Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Not all of God's chillun' got shoes -- some of us by choice! ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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dalecochoy wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lewis" Subject: [IBC] oiling mica pots Sounds like a good idea, but most of my mica pots have squirrel tooth on their rims by the end of their first year of use. It would take more than a "light" sanding to get rid of them. Jim Lewis Ditto here Jim, that is one of the problems with using mica "training pots" as a less expensive alternate to good ceramic, but it's a lost savings when the squirrels ruin the pots!! You'd think with 3 dogs and 3 cats I'd NEVER see a squirrel !!!! I keep a rag and bottle of baby oil or plain ( unscented) mineral oil at my work station. Use it on every pot when done working. Years ago when I was out of mineral oil I used cooking oil for a while but found the rags got rancid smelling quickly. Never did the sanding. That's just TOO MUCH work for a training pot! :) Dale I guess you guys just don't live right. ;0] If you had oak trees near you the squirrels would have no interest in your mica pots. My trees sit under 2 smallish live oaks and the forest around the house if filled with laurel, willow and water oaks. And squirrels. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it should have - Paul Bigelow Sears. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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My squirrels liked one spot so I gave them an
inconsiquetal pot of stuff to dig in. It worked. Kitsune Miko --- "Gratton, Michael" wrote: I wish that were true. I have huge oak trees all around my house, and the only two bonsai pots that the squirrels show any interest in are two mica pots with 3-tree gingko plantings. They tear those plantings up at least once a week. I must not be living right... -----Original Message----- From: Internet Bonsai Club ] On Behalf Of Craig Cowing Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 6:59 PM To: Subject: [IBC] oiling mica pots dalecochoy wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lewis" Subject: [IBC] oiling mica pots Sounds like a good idea, but most of my mica pots have squirrel tooth on their rims by the end of their first year of use. It would take more than a "light" sanding to get rid of them. Jim Lewis Ditto here Jim, that is one of the problems with using mica "training pots" as a less expensive alternate to good ceramic, but it's a lost savings when the squirrels ruin the pots!! You'd think with 3 dogs and 3 cats I'd NEVER see a squirrel !!!! I keep a rag and bottle of baby oil or plain ( unscented) mineral oil at my work station. Use it on every pot when done working. Years ago when I was out of mineral oil I used cooking oil for a while but found the rags got rancid smelling quickly. Never did the sanding. That's just TOO MUCH work for a training pot! :) Dale I guess you guys just don't live right. ;0] If you had oak trees near you the squirrels would have no interest in your mica pots. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ===== **** "Expectations are resentments under construction." Anne Lamott ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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dalecochoy wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lewis" Subject: [IBC] oiling mica pots Sounds like a good idea, but most of my mica pots have squirrel tooth on their rims by the end of their first year of use. It would take more than a "light" sanding to get rid of them. Jim Lewis Ditto here Jim, that is one of the problems with using mica "training pots" as a less expensive alternate to good ceramic, but it's a lost savings when the squirrels ruin the pots!! You'd think with 3 dogs and 3 cats I'd NEVER see a squirrel !!!! I guess you guys just don't live right. ;0] If you had oak trees near you the squirrels would have no interest in your mica pots. Craig Cowing Man, that's not true, I have huge oak trees on my property and all property around me!! Dale ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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dalecochoy wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lewis" Subject: [IBC] oiling mica pots Sounds like a good idea, but most of my mica pots have squirrel tooth on their rims by the end of their first year of use. It would take more than a "light" sanding to get rid of them. Jim Lewis Ditto here Jim, that is one of the problems with using mica "training pots" as a less expensive alternate to good ceramic, but it's a lost savings when the squirrels ruin the pots!! You'd think with 3 dogs and 3 cats I'd NEVER see a squirrel !!!! I guess you guys just don't live right. ;0] If you had oak trees near you the squirrels would have no interest in your mica pots. Craig Cowing Man, that's not true, I have huge oak trees on my property and all property around me!! Dale ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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"David J. Bockman" wrote:
It's my understanding that mica pots are made of a material quite close in composition to that of modern automobile bumpers, so perhaps a substance more like Armorall or other hard plastic protectant would work as well. David J. Bockman, Fairfax, Now THAT's a sensible idea. I'll try it! Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a sunset 37 Dave, I did that years ago when they came out. i think they stay too shinny, too long with that. The mineral oil is shinny only briefly. Dale ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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"David J. Bockman" wrote:
It's my understanding that mica pots are made of a material quite close in composition to that of modern automobile bumpers, so perhaps a substance more like Armorall or other hard plastic protectant would work as well. David J. Bockman, Fairfax, Now THAT's a sensible idea. I'll try it! Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a sunset 37 Dave, I did that years ago when they came out. i think they stay too shinny, too long with that. The mineral oil is shinny only briefly. Dale ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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I think northern squirrels must be much better behaved than
southern squirrels. I have several huge oaks and pecan trees. Lots of fat squirrels, but they still like to mess with my bonsai from time to time, especially right before a show! Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org -----Original Message----- From: Gratton, Michael I wish that were true. I have huge oak trees all around my house, and the only two bonsai pots that the squirrels show any interest in are two mica pots with 3-tree gingko plantings. They tear those plantings up at least once a week. I must not be living right... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lewis" Sounds like a good idea, but most of my mica pots have squirrel tooth on their rims by the end of their first year of use. It would take more than a "light" sanding to get rid of them. Jim Lewis dalecochoy wrote: Ditto here Jim, that is one of the problems with using mica "training pots" as a less expensive alternate to good ceramic, but it's a lost savings when the squirrels ruin the pots!! You'd think with 3 dogs and 3 cats I'd NEVER see a squirrel !!!! I keep a rag and bottle of baby oil or plain ( unscented) mineral oil at my work station. Use it on every pot when done working. Years ago when I was out of mineral oil I used cooking oil for a while but found the rags got rancid smelling quickly. Never did the sanding. That's just TOO MUCH work for a training pot! :) Dale -----Original Message----- From: Craig Cowing I guess you guys just don't live right. ;0] If you had oak trees near you the squirrels would have no interest in your mica pots. Craig Cowing NY ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] oiling mica pots
I think northern squirrels must be much better behaved than
southern squirrels. I have several huge oaks and pecan trees. Lots of fat squirrels, but they still like to mess with my bonsai from time to time, especially right before a show! Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org -----Original Message----- From: Gratton, Michael I wish that were true. I have huge oak trees all around my house, and the only two bonsai pots that the squirrels show any interest in are two mica pots with 3-tree gingko plantings. They tear those plantings up at least once a week. I must not be living right... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lewis" Sounds like a good idea, but most of my mica pots have squirrel tooth on their rims by the end of their first year of use. It would take more than a "light" sanding to get rid of them. Jim Lewis dalecochoy wrote: Ditto here Jim, that is one of the problems with using mica "training pots" as a less expensive alternate to good ceramic, but it's a lost savings when the squirrels ruin the pots!! You'd think with 3 dogs and 3 cats I'd NEVER see a squirrel !!!! I keep a rag and bottle of baby oil or plain ( unscented) mineral oil at my work station. Use it on every pot when done working. Years ago when I was out of mineral oil I used cooking oil for a while but found the rags got rancid smelling quickly. Never did the sanding. That's just TOO MUCH work for a training pot! :) Dale -----Original Message----- From: Craig Cowing I guess you guys just don't live right. ;0] If you had oak trees near you the squirrels would have no interest in your mica pots. Craig Cowing NY ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] oiling mica pots
I have used Armorall on ceramic pots, both glazed and unglazed, instead of
oil in the past. It does work well to clean the pot up, and it looks pretty much the same as if it were oiled. The drawback that I noticed is that in the weeks and months subsequent to using Armorall on the pots they tended to become extremely water-spotted -- white mineral type water spots all over the surface. These were pots that hadn't had a spotting problem previous to the Armorall application. The pots I used the Armorall on ended up looking pretty bad, and the only way to get rid of the water spots was to either reapply Armorall, which would start the cycle all over again, or apply oil, which seems to last longer and doesn't cause more water spotting. Regards, Roger Snipes Spokane, WA Zone 5, or maybe Zone 6. Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it, and then misapplying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marx (1895-1977) ----- Original Message ----- From: "David J. Bockman" Subject: [IBC] oiling mica pots It's my understanding that mica pots are made of a material quite close in composition to that of modern automobile bumpers, so perhaps a substance more like Armorall or other hard plastic protectant would work as well. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] oiling mica pots
I have used Armorall on ceramic pots, both glazed and unglazed, instead of
oil in the past. It does work well to clean the pot up, and it looks pretty much the same as if it were oiled. The drawback that I noticed is that in the weeks and months subsequent to using Armorall on the pots they tended to become extremely water-spotted -- white mineral type water spots all over the surface. These were pots that hadn't had a spotting problem previous to the Armorall application. The pots I used the Armorall on ended up looking pretty bad, and the only way to get rid of the water spots was to either reapply Armorall, which would start the cycle all over again, or apply oil, which seems to last longer and doesn't cause more water spotting. Regards, Roger Snipes Spokane, WA Zone 5, or maybe Zone 6. Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it, and then misapplying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marx (1895-1977) ----- Original Message ----- From: "David J. Bockman" Subject: [IBC] oiling mica pots It's my understanding that mica pots are made of a material quite close in composition to that of modern automobile bumpers, so perhaps a substance more like Armorall or other hard plastic protectant would work as well. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] oiling mica pots
Alan Walker wrote:
I think northern squirrels must be much better behaved than southern squirrels. I have several huge oaks and pecan trees. Lots of fat squirrels, but they still like to mess with my bonsai from time to time, especially right before a show! Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org You southern guys must be living in the wrong part of the country with the wrong species of oak. Oaks I have here are white oak (quercus alba), northern red oak (quercus rubra), chestnut oak (quercus prinus)--a really big one down the street. Real estate prices are skyrocketing, so come on up! Could it be the species of squirrel too? Up here you see almost exclusively what we call the gray squirrel with the occasional flying squirrel. I don't know if it's true, but I seem to remember that down south the red squirrel is more prevalent, and for some reason I recall that they're more mischievous than the gray squirrel. I don't know what to say about Dale's situation, though. He's in the midwest. I'm in the midwest too, by the way--the midwest starts on the west bank of the Hudson. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] oiling mica pots
Alan Walker wrote:
I think northern squirrels must be much better behaved than southern squirrels. I have several huge oaks and pecan trees. Lots of fat squirrels, but they still like to mess with my bonsai from time to time, especially right before a show! Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org You southern guys must be living in the wrong part of the country with the wrong species of oak. Oaks I have here are white oak (quercus alba), northern red oak (quercus rubra), chestnut oak (quercus prinus)--a really big one down the street. Real estate prices are skyrocketing, so come on up! Could it be the species of squirrel too? Up here you see almost exclusively what we call the gray squirrel with the occasional flying squirrel. I don't know if it's true, but I seem to remember that down south the red squirrel is more prevalent, and for some reason I recall that they're more mischievous than the gray squirrel. I don't know what to say about Dale's situation, though. He's in the midwest. I'm in the midwest too, by the way--the midwest starts on the west bank of the Hudson. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] oiling mica pots
Wake up, Craig! It's the 21st century. The Midwest began at the
Hudson back in the 18th century when they thought that the west coast was the banks of the Mississippi River and "Northwestern" University was placed in Evanston, IL. ;-) Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org -----Original Message----- From: Craig Cowing SNIP I don't know what to say about Dale's situation, though. He's in the midwest. I'm in the midwest too, by the way--the midwest starts on the west bank of the Hudson. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] oiling mica pots
Wake up, Craig! It's the 21st century. The Midwest began at the
Hudson back in the 18th century when they thought that the west coast was the banks of the Mississippi River and "Northwestern" University was placed in Evanston, IL. ;-) Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org -----Original Message----- From: Craig Cowing SNIP I don't know what to say about Dale's situation, though. He's in the midwest. I'm in the midwest too, by the way--the midwest starts on the west bank of the Hudson. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] oiling mica pots, now Squirrels
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Cowing" Subject: [IBC] oiling mica pots Could it be the species of squirrel too? Up here you see almost exclusively what we call the gray squirrel with the occasional flying squirrel. I don't know what to say about Dale's situation, though. He's in the midwest. I'm in the midwest too, Craig Cowing NY Craig, I've seen a couple flying squirrels over the years also. A couple years ago I saw one with a little leather flyers hat and gogles. He was walking in the woods with a moose!! I thought it strange! Dale ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] oiling mica pots, now Squirrels
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Cowing" Subject: [IBC] oiling mica pots Could it be the species of squirrel too? Up here you see almost exclusively what we call the gray squirrel with the occasional flying squirrel. I don't know what to say about Dale's situation, though. He's in the midwest. I'm in the midwest too, Craig Cowing NY Craig, I've seen a couple flying squirrels over the years also. A couple years ago I saw one with a little leather flyers hat and gogles. He was walking in the woods with a moose!! I thought it strange! Dale ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
[IBC] oiling mica pots
Alan Walker wrote:
Wake up, Craig! It's the 21st century. The Midwest began at the Hudson back in the 18th century when they thought that the west coast was the banks of the Mississippi River and "Northwestern" University was placed in Evanston, IL. ;-) Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org You mean there's something beyond the Missisippi? I guess I'll find that out when we fly to Arizona for the second leg of our honeymoon. It'll be strange with the ocean on the left instead of the right, where it should be! ;0] Craig Cowing NY zone 5b/6a sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Chris Cochrane++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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