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Carol Schroeder 16-08-2004 03:51 AM

[IBC] Pine buds growing in August
 
Hello All,
This past spring I fed all of my 7 pines using a Superfeed fertilizer
ball formula by Michael Persiano. Most of the pines responded with a
great many needles to my delight. One plant, a two-needle young pine,
has three to five buds mostly at the terminals of each branch and the
center bud is now growing and is almost an inch in length. Do I treat
this new growth as I did this past spring? That is, do I discard the
buds not needed and prune back the buds that will soon be an inch long?
This is an abundance of riches, but I'm not sure how to deal with it,
and any advice is welcome and appreciated.

With thanks,
Carol Schroeder
Columbia, MD

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Marty Haber 16-08-2004 06:11 AM

There isn't a consensus on this issue, especially because you didn't mention
the variety of pines you have. On Japanese Black Pine, most people let the
candle grow, eliminating all but two buds. The theory is that you can fool
the tree into producing additional buds, after the formation of which you
can then remove all but one inch of the candle. However, it's kind of late
in the season to do this, so I'd suggest that you leave well enough alone
until next season. On other varieties, especially J. White Pines, the
procedure is entirely different. Michael P. will, I'm sure, be able to help
you with these.
Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Schroeder"
To:
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 11:45 AM
Subject: [IBC] Pine buds growing in August


Hello All,
This past spring I fed all of my 7 pines using a Superfeed fertilizer
ball formula by Michael Persiano. Most of the pines responded with a
great many needles to my delight. One plant, a two-needle young pine,
has three to five buds mostly at the terminals of each branch and the
center bud is now growing and is almost an inch in length. Do I treat
this new growth as I did this past spring? That is, do I discard the
buds not needed and prune back the buds that will soon be an inch long?
This is an abundance of riches, but I'm not sure how to deal with it,
and any advice is welcome and appreciated.

With thanks,
Carol Schroeder
Columbia, MD


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Marty Haber 16-08-2004 06:11 AM

There isn't a consensus on this issue, especially because you didn't mention
the variety of pines you have. On Japanese Black Pine, most people let the
candle grow, eliminating all but two buds. The theory is that you can fool
the tree into producing additional buds, after the formation of which you
can then remove all but one inch of the candle. However, it's kind of late
in the season to do this, so I'd suggest that you leave well enough alone
until next season. On other varieties, especially J. White Pines, the
procedure is entirely different. Michael P. will, I'm sure, be able to help
you with these.
Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Schroeder"
To:
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 11:45 AM
Subject: [IBC] Pine buds growing in August


Hello All,
This past spring I fed all of my 7 pines using a Superfeed fertilizer
ball formula by Michael Persiano. Most of the pines responded with a
great many needles to my delight. One plant, a two-needle young pine,
has three to five buds mostly at the terminals of each branch and the
center bud is now growing and is almost an inch in length. Do I treat
this new growth as I did this past spring? That is, do I discard the
buds not needed and prune back the buds that will soon be an inch long?
This is an abundance of riches, but I'm not sure how to deal with it,
and any advice is welcome and appreciated.

With thanks,
Carol Schroeder
Columbia, MD


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Marty Haber 16-08-2004 06:11 AM

There isn't a consensus on this issue, especially because you didn't mention
the variety of pines you have. On Japanese Black Pine, most people let the
candle grow, eliminating all but two buds. The theory is that you can fool
the tree into producing additional buds, after the formation of which you
can then remove all but one inch of the candle. However, it's kind of late
in the season to do this, so I'd suggest that you leave well enough alone
until next season. On other varieties, especially J. White Pines, the
procedure is entirely different. Michael P. will, I'm sure, be able to help
you with these.
Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Schroeder"
To:
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 11:45 AM
Subject: [IBC] Pine buds growing in August


Hello All,
This past spring I fed all of my 7 pines using a Superfeed fertilizer
ball formula by Michael Persiano. Most of the pines responded with a
great many needles to my delight. One plant, a two-needle young pine,
has three to five buds mostly at the terminals of each branch and the
center bud is now growing and is almost an inch in length. Do I treat
this new growth as I did this past spring? That is, do I discard the
buds not needed and prune back the buds that will soon be an inch long?
This is an abundance of riches, but I'm not sure how to deal with it,
and any advice is welcome and appreciated.

With thanks,
Carol Schroeder
Columbia, MD


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Michael Persiano 16-08-2004 01:31 PM

Carol writes:

Hello All,
This past spring I fed all of my 7 pines using a Superfeed fertilizer
ball formula by Michael Persiano. Most of the pines responded with a
great many needles to my delight. One plant, a two-needle young pine,
has three to five buds mostly at the terminals of each branch and the
center bud is now growing and is almost an inch in length. Do I treat
this new growth as I did this past spring? That is, do I discard the
buds not needed and prune back the buds that will soon be an inch long?
This is an abundance of riches, but I'm not sure how to deal with it,
and any advice is welcome and appreciated.

With thanks,
Carol Schroeder
Columbia, MD

Carol:

This is the first goal of Superfeeding: fill the palette with growth and SELECT what you want where you want it to be.

You will also need to balance the growth in the tree, and this is likely to take a few years. To begin, remove the strongest buds in the bud clusters, i.e., where you have 3-5 new buds for next spring.

Remember: bud removal is only one method to control the energy in the tree. Should you decide after bud break that something should have been removed, or that something needs to be reduced in length, simply cut back. However, attempt to cut into the new growth where new buds are most likely to regenerate.

I was working on one of my oldest White Pines yesterday and was surprised to find new buds breaking on old wood--a pleasant surprise.

Once your tree has achieved balanced growth, go the maintenance version of Superfeeding. I will soon be publishing a new article on the feeding methodology in Bonsai Today.

Cordially,

Michael Persiano
members.aol.com/iasnob

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Michael Persiano 16-08-2004 01:32 PM

Marty writes:

However, it's kind of late
in the season to do this, so I'd suggest that you leave well enough alone
until next season. On other varieties, especially J. White Pines, the
procedure is entirely different. Michael P. will, I'm sure, be able to help
you with these.


Marty and Carol:

My post was on White Pines. If this is a Black, let me know and I will address the question.

Cordially,

Michael

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Michael Persiano 16-08-2004 01:32 PM

Marty writes:

However, it's kind of late
in the season to do this, so I'd suggest that you leave well enough alone
until next season. On other varieties, especially J. White Pines, the
procedure is entirely different. Michael P. will, I'm sure, be able to help
you with these.


Marty and Carol:

My post was on White Pines. If this is a Black, let me know and I will address the question.

Cordially,

Michael

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