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[IBC] TRUE greatness
Well.
Issue 93 of Bonsai Today contains within its pages an example of the contrast between true greatness and faddish, wannabe greatness. Starting with "Goshen" on the cover and a couple other John Naka trees inside you have the greatness. And then there are those things by Kimura on later pages. I wasn't going to comment on this contrast, my opinions on Kimura being what they are (over exposed, over designed, over fussy, and over decorated trees) but when the artist in the family, Jackie (wife), picked up the magazine and made the same comparison (and she doesn't know Kimura's pop reputation) I guessed I might not be too far off base. Her reactions to Kimura's trees: "Just too, TOO. Overdone. " (And I certainly agree with the BT publisher about the "tacky" photos.) IMHO, of course. 8=/ I'd wish magazines like BT would devote as much to Naka's work as they do to Kimura's. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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From: "Jim Lewis" To: Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 2:05 PM Subject: [IBC] TRUE greatness Kimura Her reactions to Kimura's trees: "Just too, TOO. Overdone. " From greatness to overdone - It is sort of like the categories in music - so many people think that Opera is Overdone. Others have a "taste" for it. Kimura is certainly into heavy drama. Without his show would we really know where our greatest appreciation lies? I visited and had tea at Kimura's studio with NBF. It was an over-whelming experience - the trees had the power to confuse my response to their styling - was it grotesque? was it a greater passion than I experience in most arts? was it one man whose trees express a love of the creative technique beyond most? I think a critique of Kimura lies beyond me - very far beyond. I am glad he is among us, he is a reflection that dazzles or escapes one. Lynn ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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From: "Jim Lewis" To: Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 2:05 PM Subject: [IBC] TRUE greatness Kimura Her reactions to Kimura's trees: "Just too, TOO. Overdone. " From greatness to overdone - It is sort of like the categories in music - so many people think that Opera is Overdone. Others have a "taste" for it. Kimura is certainly into heavy drama. Without his show would we really know where our greatest appreciation lies? I visited and had tea at Kimura's studio with NBF. It was an over-whelming experience - the trees had the power to confuse my response to their styling - was it grotesque? was it a greater passion than I experience in most arts? was it one man whose trees express a love of the creative technique beyond most? I think a critique of Kimura lies beyond me - very far beyond. I am glad he is among us, he is a reflection that dazzles or escapes one. Lynn ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Without individuals like Kimura who are pushing the ceiling of the art, we are surely doomed to mediocrity. Well, we need all kinds, but I'm not sure I'd go THAT far. (!?!) I know a lot of people like his work, but "decadent" is another word that comes to mind. ;-) Again, IMHO. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect - Aldo Leopold - A Sand County Almanac ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
The words that spring to my mind are "inspirational", "groundbreaking" and
"innovative". Without people such as Kimura bonsai would be static, stuck in the past. There's no need to go THAT far...but if his work has pushed us even one small step along a new path then he has achieved everything he set out to do. Mike Bennett http://www.bonsaiartists.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lewis" To: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 3:07 AM Subject: [IBC] TRUE greatness Without individuals like Kimura who are pushing the ceiling of the art, we are surely doomed to mediocrity. Well, we need all kinds, but I'm not sure I'd go THAT far. (!?!) I know a lot of people like his work, but "decadent" is another word that comes to mind. ;-) Again, IMHO. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect - Aldo Leopold - A Sand County Almanac ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
That ( below) was well said Mike, and I'm sure many feel this way. One
thing I might add , since I've also been to his place as many on tours have, we normally only see the wildest, splashiest trees in magazines and even his own book. ( he also had Japanese books before it was done in English, and, I've seen a Japanese tape with his creations ), but, when at his house, I'd have to say that by far what you see are classical or variations of classical trees styling You will see and regognize some of the wild ones you've seen in magazines ( which I LOVE BTW) but mostly you stand there with your mouth open looking at wonderful , lets say, "non-wild" creations/styling. further.... Well, actually, there is no further...I'm just sitting here chuckling at a critique of Mr. Kimura's tree styling practices ......by Jim Lewis??? :) Regards, Dale Cochoy, Wild Things Bonsai Studio, Hartville, Ohio http://www.WildThingsBonsai.Com Specializing in power wood carving tools. Yakimono no Kokoro bonsai pottery of hand-built stoneware ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Persiano" To: Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 9:20 PM Subject: [IBC] TRUE greatness In a message dated 10/23/2004 6:39:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes: I visited and had tea at Kimura's studio with NBF. It was an over-whelming experience - the trees had the power to confuse my response to their styling - was it grotesque? was it a greater passion than I experience in most arts? was it one man whose trees express a love of the creative technique beyond most? I think a critique of Kimura lies beyond me - very far beyond. I am glad he is among us, he is a reflection that dazzles or escapes one. Friends: I can think of no other artist on the planet who inspires me more to create my work. Is it that he goes to far, or is it that he goes further than most could ever hope to travel within the art? Are his trees overdone, or are his trees expressing the essence of the art, i.e., bonsai as a suggestion rather than a reflection of nature? Without individuals like Kimura who are pushing the ceiling of the art, we are surely doomed to mediocrity. Cordially, Michael Persiano members.aol.com/iasnob ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
That ( below) was well said Mike, and I'm sure many feel this way. One
thing I might add , since I've also been to his place as many on tours have, we normally only see the wildest, splashiest trees in magazines and even his own book. ( he also had Japanese books before it was done in English, and, I've seen a Japanese tape with his creations ), but, when at his house, I'd have to say that by far what you see are classical or variations of classical trees styling You will see and regognize some of the wild ones you've seen in magazines ( which I LOVE BTW) but mostly you stand there with your mouth open looking at wonderful , lets say, "non-wild" creations/styling. further.... Well, actually, there is no further...I'm just sitting here chuckling at a critique of Mr. Kimura's tree styling practices ......by Jim Lewis??? :) Regards, Dale Cochoy, Wild Things Bonsai Studio, Hartville, Ohio http://www.WildThingsBonsai.Com Specializing in power wood carving tools. Yakimono no Kokoro bonsai pottery of hand-built stoneware ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Persiano" To: Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 9:20 PM Subject: [IBC] TRUE greatness In a message dated 10/23/2004 6:39:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes: I visited and had tea at Kimura's studio with NBF. It was an over-whelming experience - the trees had the power to confuse my response to their styling - was it grotesque? was it a greater passion than I experience in most arts? was it one man whose trees express a love of the creative technique beyond most? I think a critique of Kimura lies beyond me - very far beyond. I am glad he is among us, he is a reflection that dazzles or escapes one. Friends: I can think of no other artist on the planet who inspires me more to create my work. Is it that he goes to far, or is it that he goes further than most could ever hope to travel within the art? Are his trees overdone, or are his trees expressing the essence of the art, i.e., bonsai as a suggestion rather than a reflection of nature? Without individuals like Kimura who are pushing the ceiling of the art, we are surely doomed to mediocrity. Cordially, Michael Persiano members.aol.com/iasnob ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Well I agree that Naka's trees are truly great, but we
are deaing with a living, ever changing art form. Mozart was a pop artist of his time and now he is one of the classical greats. If you really want to be shaken up, look up Lisa Tajima on the net. I have her book. She is classicaly trained and is gaing recognition in the japanese bonsai community. Kitsune Miko --- Jim Lewis wrote: Well. Issue 93 of Bonsai Today contains within its pages an example of the contrast between true greatness and faddish, wannabe greatness. Starting with "Goshen" on the cover and a couple other John Naka trees inside you have the greatness. And then there are those things by Kimura on later pages. I wasn't going to comment on this contrast, my opinions on Kimura being what they are (over exposed, over designed, over fussy, and over decorated trees) but when the artist in the family, Jackie (wife), picked up the magazine and made the same comparison (and she doesn't know Kimura's pop reputation) I guessed I might not be too far off base. Her reactions to Kimura's trees: "Just too, TOO. Overdone. " (And I certainly agree with the BT publisher about the "tacky" photos.) IMHO, of course. 8=/ I'd wish magazines like BT would devote as much to Naka's work as they do to Kimura's. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ===== **** "Expectations are resentments under construction." Anne Lamott ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
"Michael Persiano" wrote in message ... In a message dated 10/23/2004 10:21:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes: snip Kimura's underlying theme is the strange harmony between the living and the dead in nature. His work almost relentlessly is an exploration of this fascination. snip Do any of you have a url for Kimura's work ? Thanks for your help, David.......................... |
Kitsune Miko wrote: Well I agree that Naka's trees are truly great, but we are deaing with a living, ever changing art form. Mozart was a pop artist of his time and now he is one of the classical greats. If you really want to be shaken up, look up Lisa Tajima on the net. I have her book. She is classicaly trained and is gaing recognition in the japanese bonsai community. oh my!!!! Samurais and masters and Literati must turn upside down in their graves... but it is today's conception of life... childish in all his manifestations Theo -- MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
Kitsune Miko wrote: Well I agree that Naka's trees are truly great, but we are deaing with a living, ever changing art form. Mozart was a pop artist of his time and now he is one of the classical greats. If you really want to be shaken up, look up Lisa Tajima on the net. I have her book. She is classicaly trained and is gaing recognition in the japanese bonsai community. oh my!!!! Samurais and masters and Literati must turn upside down in their graves... but it is today's conception of life... childish in all his manifestations Theo -- MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
Kimura has a book, The Bonsai Art of Kimura, which is
published by Stone Lantern Publishing Co. The price on the back cover of my copy was listed as U.S.$24.95. A review by Andy Rutledge at http://www.bonsaitodayonline.com/boo...iewkimura1.htm shows the current price is $29.95. In it you will certainly find plenty of examples of his highly sculptured, dramatic bonsai. However, you will also find far more examples of classically designed bonsai with little or no jin involved. The same can be said for his earlier Japanese language book, The Magical Technician of Contemporary Bonsai, Part I, which was published in 1982 and is long out of print (and currently quite costly). People seem to have a love/hate relationship with Kimura's highly sculpted bonsai. Like Picasso or Stravinsky, that is the case with much great art. It is significant that it does inspire strong reactions. That is an element of "success" in art. But it is unfair to dismiss his art on the basis of some of the more spectacular bonsai which are chosen by magazine editors. Sorry, I don't know of any sites exclusively dedicated to Kimura's bonsai art. A Google search for Kimura bonsai photos ought to turn up any number of hits, however. For example, visit http://images.google.com/images?q=Ki...tos&hl=en&lr=& sa=N&tab=wi&sourceid=tipimg Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org "Michael Persiano" wrote... snip Kimura's underlying theme is the strange harmony between the living and the dead in nature. His work almost relentlessly is an exploration of this fascination. snip -----Original Message----- From: D J Maclean Do any of you have a url for Kimura's work? Thanks for your help, David.......................... ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
dalecochoy wrote:
..I'm just sitting here chuckling at a critique of Mr. Kimura's tree styling practices ......by Jim Lewis??? :) Personally, I would prefer a more developed style of critique - referencing historical, cultural and economic contexts as well as the aesthetic. Perhaps someone could comment in more detail the ways in which these trees are 'problems'. Or point me to a text that can explain more. Who are the critics of this art? Its always been my view that those who can afford to patronise artists get to decide who the geniuses are not the humble observers of the finished artifacts. Richard ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
dalecochoy wrote:
..I'm just sitting here chuckling at a critique of Mr. Kimura's tree styling practices ......by Jim Lewis??? :) Personally, I would prefer a more developed style of critique - referencing historical, cultural and economic contexts as well as the aesthetic. Perhaps someone could comment in more detail the ways in which these trees are 'problems'. Or point me to a text that can explain more. Who are the critics of this art? Its always been my view that those who can afford to patronise artists get to decide who the geniuses are not the humble observers of the finished artifacts. Richard ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Richard writes:
Perhaps someone could comment in more detail the ways in which these trees are 'problems'. Or point me to a text that can explain more. Who are the critics of this art? Problems? );-)) Most should have such a problem. Who are the critics? Everyone. Everyone is a critic of art. However, some opinions matter more than others. With this said, one of the toughest critics is time. The true test of art is time--endurance. Not the life of the tree per say, but the life of the concept, image, and artistic vision. And yes, we want the tree to live long lives. Who is the toughest critic? You should be of your own bonsai art. Cordially, Michael Persiano members.aol.com/iasnob ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
On 25 Oct 2004 at 13:49, Richard Patefield wrote:
dalecochoy wrote: ..I'm just sitting here chuckling at a critique of Mr. Kimura's tree styling practices ......by Jim Lewis??? :) Personally, I would prefer a more developed style of critique - referencing historical, cultural and economic contexts as well as the aesthetic. Perhaps someone could comment in more detail the ways in which these trees are 'problems'. Or point me to a text that can explain more. Who are the critics of this art? Its always been my view that those who can afford to patronise artists get to decide who the geniuses are not the humble observers of the finished artifacts. Well, I don't know what Dale was referring to, but I wasn't really "critiquing." I simply don't like his overly ornate trees. Period. I like trees that appear to be styled by Ma Nature -- not a Waring blender. And specifically, I also thought the trees in that BT article reprint were poor examples of his work. Fine art critics notwithstanding, one really shouldn't "critique" until one can "do" as well as the putative critiquee; and I have never made that claim, and likely never will. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Bonsaiests are like genealogists: We know our roots! ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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From: "Kitsune Miko" Subject: [IBC] TRUE greatness If you really want to be shaken up, look up Lisa Tajima on the net. I have her book. She is classicaly trained and is gaing recognition in the japanese bonsai community. Kitsune Miko :) Well..... I think you are perhaps giving her a bit more notoriety than is deserved... both for her bonsai and her simple toyish pottery ( heck, even I can do those!) , .because she put out a book!!!. About anyone could do that now in the age of computers. I think that's why there are 20 books on bonsai for $12-$17 by people no one ever heard of filled with pics of awful bonsai ( or good bonsai that belong to someone else!). It so often seems people gain notoriety because they put out a book, not because they put out a book because they were talented and people recognized that. Her book will be a dust collector in a short time....I suspect. Destined for club auctions and.....eBay. I also suspect that her having a display in a Japanese bonsai masters display is much more small-group-politics than "gaining recognition in the japanese bonsai community". Don't you think? And, Heck, lets face it and be truthfull here, Being a cute young girl helps in any nationality's group run by old men! :) I'm sure she wouldn't have any trouble getting a display into any national convention here in the USA. We like cute girls too! :) Dale ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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From: "Kitsune Miko" Subject: [IBC] TRUE greatness If you really want to be shaken up, look up Lisa Tajima on the net. I have her book. She is classicaly trained and is gaing recognition in the japanese bonsai community. Kitsune Miko :) Well..... I think you are perhaps giving her a bit more notoriety than is deserved... both for her bonsai and her simple toyish pottery ( heck, even I can do those!) , .because she put out a book!!!. About anyone could do that now in the age of computers. I think that's why there are 20 books on bonsai for $12-$17 by people no one ever heard of filled with pics of awful bonsai ( or good bonsai that belong to someone else!). It so often seems people gain notoriety because they put out a book, not because they put out a book because they were talented and people recognized that. Her book will be a dust collector in a short time....I suspect. Destined for club auctions and.....eBay. I also suspect that her having a display in a Japanese bonsai masters display is much more small-group-politics than "gaining recognition in the japanese bonsai community". Don't you think? And, Heck, lets face it and be truthfull here, Being a cute young girl helps in any nationality's group run by old men! :) I'm sure she wouldn't have any trouble getting a display into any national convention here in the USA. We like cute girls too! :) Dale ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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From: "Richard Patefield" Subject: [IBC] TRUE greatness Its always been my view that those who can afford to patronise artists get to decide who the geniuses are not the humble observers of the finished artifacts. Richard Richard, That is a very interesting, and I guess, I feel ...accurate statement. It sure explains the buying/selling frenzy with designer clothes, watches, purses, shoes, cars, watches, art, etc. etc. I think you are onto something there! Andy Warhol saw this long ago. The tomato soup can is great art... if you are running with the right crowd! :) Dale ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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From: "Richard Patefield" Subject: [IBC] TRUE greatness Its always been my view that those who can afford to patronise artists get to decide who the geniuses are not the humble observers of the finished artifacts. Richard Richard, That is a very interesting, and I guess, I feel ...accurate statement. It sure explains the buying/selling frenzy with designer clothes, watches, purses, shoes, cars, watches, art, etc. etc. I think you are onto something there! Andy Warhol saw this long ago. The tomato soup can is great art... if you are running with the right crowd! :) Dale ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
dalecochoy wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitsune Miko" Subject: [IBC] TRUE greatness If you really want to be shaken up, look up Lisa Tajima on the net. I have her book. She is classicaly trained and is gaing recognition in the japanese bonsai community. Kitsune Miko :) Well..... I think you are perhaps giving her a bit more notoriety than is deserved... both for her bonsai and her simple toyish pottery ( heck, even I can do those!) , .because she put out a book!!!. well someone said the same about Miro'( spanish painter) *my kids can di the same *.. yes you can as my friends' kids can NOW but she (lisa) opened the way she was the first to have the idea and the guts to make it real the same as kimura( that I am not a fan of either) with his ogival vertical hand sculptured stone with a pine in the middle ..he dared and he did ... the others just nag :-D About anyone could do that now in the age of computers. I think that's why there are 20 books on bonsai for $12-$17 by people no one ever heard of filled with pics of awful bonsai ( or good bonsai that belong to someone else!). It so often seems people gain notoriety because they put out a book, not because they put out a book because they were talented and people recognized that. there a lot of people that thinks they are talented and many are... but very few reach the arrival line... Her book will be a dust collector in a short time....I suspect. Destined for club auctions and.....eBay. it is fun and joyful in a Ikea's style apt .... it would not be nice in her majesty the Queen Edwardian living room I also suspect that her having a display in a Japanese bonsai masters display is much more small-group-politics than "gaining recognition in the japanese bonsai community". Don't you think? a lot of small bonsai as shohin a mame have wonderfully carved and colored pattern pottery that are not find in the normal size regular strict pots.. it is a wink , a poetry dialogue between the small humorous pot and his guest :the mini bonsai .. And, Heck, lets face it and be truthfull here, Being a cute young girl helps in any nationality's group run by old men! :) she's cute indeed.. it is a plus.. would she be ugly maybe her art should be better or worse ? she has the look of her art ... :-) I'm sure she wouldn't have any trouble getting a display into any national convention here in the USA. We like cute girls too! :) you are growling ... do you have something against nice japanese gals?:-D I find the idea of her bonsai's remarkable but I would not buy them ....... but her ..... it is another story :-D have a sunny day... MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
dalecochoy wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitsune Miko" Subject: [IBC] TRUE greatness If you really want to be shaken up, look up Lisa Tajima on the net. I have her book. She is classicaly trained and is gaing recognition in the japanese bonsai community. Kitsune Miko :) Well..... I think you are perhaps giving her a bit more notoriety than is deserved... both for her bonsai and her simple toyish pottery ( heck, even I can do those!) , .because she put out a book!!!. well someone said the same about Miro'( spanish painter) *my kids can di the same *.. yes you can as my friends' kids can NOW but she (lisa) opened the way she was the first to have the idea and the guts to make it real the same as kimura( that I am not a fan of either) with his ogival vertical hand sculptured stone with a pine in the middle ..he dared and he did ... the others just nag :-D About anyone could do that now in the age of computers. I think that's why there are 20 books on bonsai for $12-$17 by people no one ever heard of filled with pics of awful bonsai ( or good bonsai that belong to someone else!). It so often seems people gain notoriety because they put out a book, not because they put out a book because they were talented and people recognized that. there a lot of people that thinks they are talented and many are... but very few reach the arrival line... Her book will be a dust collector in a short time....I suspect. Destined for club auctions and.....eBay. it is fun and joyful in a Ikea's style apt .... it would not be nice in her majesty the Queen Edwardian living room I also suspect that her having a display in a Japanese bonsai masters display is much more small-group-politics than "gaining recognition in the japanese bonsai community". Don't you think? a lot of small bonsai as shohin a mame have wonderfully carved and colored pattern pottery that are not find in the normal size regular strict pots.. it is a wink , a poetry dialogue between the small humorous pot and his guest :the mini bonsai .. And, Heck, lets face it and be truthfull here, Being a cute young girl helps in any nationality's group run by old men! :) she's cute indeed.. it is a plus.. would she be ugly maybe her art should be better or worse ? she has the look of her art ... :-) I'm sure she wouldn't have any trouble getting a display into any national convention here in the USA. We like cute girls too! :) you are growling ... do you have something against nice japanese gals?:-D I find the idea of her bonsai's remarkable but I would not buy them ....... but her ..... it is another story :-D have a sunny day... MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
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From: "Theo" Subject: [IBC] TRUE greatness but she (lisa) opened the way she was the first to have the idea and the guts to make it real What a courageous woman!! and, cute too! :) And, Heck, lets face it and be truthfull here, Being a cute young girl helps in any nationality's group run by old men! :) she's cute indeed.. it is a plus.. would she be ugly maybe her art should be better or worse ? I'm sure she wouldn't have any trouble getting a display into any national convention here in the USA. We like cute girls too! :) you are growling ... do you have something against nice japanese gals?:-D I find the idea of her bonsai's remarkable but I would not buy them ...... but her ..... it is another story :-D I'm not sure, but, I think you just made my point?? Dale ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
dalecochoy wrote: you are growling ... do you have something against nice japanese gals?:-D I find the idea of her bonsai's remarkable but I would not buy them ...... but her ..... it is another story :-D I'm not sure, but, I think you just made my point?? Dale HI Dale we reached the same agreement from different paths :-D but more I think to these funny Pop BBonsai more I feel seduced to the idea... time will tell anyway are far more funn than Mallsai :-D MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
dalecochoy wrote: you are growling ... do you have something against nice japanese gals?:-D I find the idea of her bonsai's remarkable but I would not buy them ...... but her ..... it is another story :-D I'm not sure, but, I think you just made my point?? Dale HI Dale we reached the same agreement from different paths :-D but more I think to these funny Pop BBonsai more I feel seduced to the idea... time will tell anyway are far more funn than Mallsai :-D MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
Dear friends,
I have started some Japanese Pagoda tree seedlings from seeds but it is hard to find information on the seedlings of this specific species. Has any of you worked with Sophora seedlings in the past ? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Please have a look on one of the seedlings http://www.bonsaichat.com/galleryView.asp?picID=130 cheers, Dimitris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Dear friends,
I have started some Japanese Pagoda tree seedlings from seeds but it is hard to find information on the seedlings of this specific species. Has any of you worked with Sophora seedlings in the past ? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Please have a look on one of the seedlings http://www.bonsaichat.com/galleryView.asp?picID=130 cheers, Dimitris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
I know this one's been around before and I have got Jim Lewis's excellent advice on trips around Tokyo saved.
Does anyone else have favourite places to go, things to see and do in Japan. I am hopefully going from February 8th to 17th. It's an organised tour and the elements of the schedule proposed a- ▪ Visit to Kinashi Bonsai Village – the largest Bonsai village in Japan (over 270 gardens) ▪ Visit to Omiya Bonsai Village – Bonsai village near Tokyo ▪ Entry to Kokufu Bonsai-ten – the biggest annual Bonsai event in Japan ▪ Guided tours of Kyoto, Tokyo and Nara (Japan’s former ancient capital) ▪ Visit to Korakuen – one of Japan’s top 3 most celebrated gardens ▪ Travel on Japan’s famous Bullet Train ▪ 8 nights hotel accommodation (4 nights Kyoto and 4 nights Tokyo) ▪ Japanese Breakfast daily ▪ Welcome Dinner on first night of arrival and Farewell Dinner on the last night ▪ Scheduled return non-stop Economy class flights with Japan Airlines ▪ Airport transfers from Osaka Airport to Kyoto on arrival and from Tokyo to Narita Airport (Tokyo New International) on departure ▪ Services of a knowledgeable Japan Journey’s guide throughout Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 01/11/2004 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
I know this one's been around before and I have got Jim Lewis's excellent advice on trips around Tokyo saved.
Does anyone else have favourite places to go, things to see and do in Japan. I am hopefully going from February 8th to 17th. It's an organised tour and the elements of the schedule proposed a- ▪ Visit to Kinashi Bonsai Village – the largest Bonsai village in Japan (over 270 gardens) ▪ Visit to Omiya Bonsai Village – Bonsai village near Tokyo ▪ Entry to Kokufu Bonsai-ten – the biggest annual Bonsai event in Japan ▪ Guided tours of Kyoto, Tokyo and Nara (Japan’s former ancient capital) ▪ Visit to Korakuen – one of Japan’s top 3 most celebrated gardens ▪ Travel on Japan’s famous Bullet Train ▪ 8 nights hotel accommodation (4 nights Kyoto and 4 nights Tokyo) ▪ Japanese Breakfast daily ▪ Welcome Dinner on first night of arrival and Farewell Dinner on the last night ▪ Scheduled return non-stop Economy class flights with Japan Airlines ▪ Airport transfers from Osaka Airport to Kyoto on arrival and from Tokyo to Narita Airport (Tokyo New International) on departure ▪ Services of a knowledgeable Japan Journey’s guide throughout Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 01/11/2004 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
When in Tokyo do visit the roofs of department stores.
They have bonsai and koi up there Kitsune Miko. --- kevin bailey wrote: I know this one's been around before and I have got Jim Lewis's excellent advice on trips around Tokyo saved. Does anyone else have favourite places to go, things to see and do in Japan. I am hopefully going from February 8th to 17th. It's an organised tour and the elements of the schedule proposed a- ▪ Visit to Kinashi Bonsai Village – the largest Bonsai village in Japan (over 270 gardens) ▪ Visit to Omiya Bonsai Village – Bonsai village near Tokyo ▪ Entry to Kokufu Bonsai-ten – the biggest annual Bonsai event in Japan ▪ Guided tours of Kyoto, Tokyo and Nara (Japan’s former ancient capital) ▪ Visit to Korakuen – one of Japan’s top 3 most celebrated gardens ▪ Travel on Japan’s famous Bullet Train ▪ 8 nights hotel accommodation (4 nights Kyoto and 4 nights Tokyo) ▪ Japanese Breakfast daily ▪ Welcome Dinner on first night of arrival and Farewell Dinner on the last night ▪ Scheduled return non-stop Economy class flights with Japan Airlines ▪ Airport transfers from Osaka Airport to Kyoto on arrival and from Tokyo to Narita Airport (Tokyo New International) on departure ▪ Services of a knowledgeable Japan Journey’s guide throughout Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 01/11/2004 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ===== **** "Expectations are resentments under construction." Anne Lamott ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
When in Tokyo do visit the roofs of department stores.
They have bonsai and koi up there Kitsune Miko. --- kevin bailey wrote: I know this one's been around before and I have got Jim Lewis's excellent advice on trips around Tokyo saved. Does anyone else have favourite places to go, things to see and do in Japan. I am hopefully going from February 8th to 17th. It's an organised tour and the elements of the schedule proposed a- ▪ Visit to Kinashi Bonsai Village – the largest Bonsai village in Japan (over 270 gardens) ▪ Visit to Omiya Bonsai Village – Bonsai village near Tokyo ▪ Entry to Kokufu Bonsai-ten – the biggest annual Bonsai event in Japan ▪ Guided tours of Kyoto, Tokyo and Nara (Japan’s former ancient capital) ▪ Visit to Korakuen – one of Japan’s top 3 most celebrated gardens ▪ Travel on Japan’s famous Bullet Train ▪ 8 nights hotel accommodation (4 nights Kyoto and 4 nights Tokyo) ▪ Japanese Breakfast daily ▪ Welcome Dinner on first night of arrival and Farewell Dinner on the last night ▪ Scheduled return non-stop Economy class flights with Japan Airlines ▪ Airport transfers from Osaka Airport to Kyoto on arrival and from Tokyo to Narita Airport (Tokyo New International) on departure ▪ Services of a knowledgeable Japan Journey’s guide throughout Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 01/11/2004 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ===== **** "Expectations are resentments under construction." Anne Lamott ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
When in Tokyo do visit the roofs of department stores.
They have bonsai and koi up there Kitsune Miko. --- kevin bailey wrote: I know this one's been around before and I have got Jim Lewis's excellent advice on trips around Tokyo saved. Does anyone else have favourite places to go, things to see and do in Japan. I am hopefully going from February 8th to 17th. It's an organised tour and the elements of the schedule proposed a- ▪ Visit to Kinashi Bonsai Village – the largest Bonsai village in Japan (over 270 gardens) ▪ Visit to Omiya Bonsai Village – Bonsai village near Tokyo ▪ Entry to Kokufu Bonsai-ten – the biggest annual Bonsai event in Japan ▪ Guided tours of Kyoto, Tokyo and Nara (Japan’s former ancient capital) ▪ Visit to Korakuen – one of Japan’s top 3 most celebrated gardens ▪ Travel on Japan’s famous Bullet Train ▪ 8 nights hotel accommodation (4 nights Kyoto and 4 nights Tokyo) ▪ Japanese Breakfast daily ▪ Welcome Dinner on first night of arrival and Farewell Dinner on the last night ▪ Scheduled return non-stop Economy class flights with Japan Airlines ▪ Airport transfers from Osaka Airport to Kyoto on arrival and from Tokyo to Narita Airport (Tokyo New International) on departure ▪ Services of a knowledgeable Japan Journey’s guide throughout Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 01/11/2004 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ===== **** "Expectations are resentments under construction." Anne Lamott ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
On 2 Nov 2004 at 22:57, kevin bailey wrote:
I know this one's been around before and I have got Jim Lewis's excellent advice on trips around Tokyo saved. Does anyone else have favourite places to go, things to see and do in Japan. I am hopefully going from February 8th to 17th. It's an organised tour and the elements of the schedule proposed a- ▪ Visit to Kinashi Bonsai Village – the largest Bonsai village in Japan (over 270 gardens) ▪ Visit to Omiya Bonsai Village – Bonsai village near Tokyo ▪ Entry to Kokufu Bonsai-ten – the biggest annual Bonsai event in Japan ▪ Guided tours of Kyoto, Tokyo and Nara (Japan’s former ancient capital) ▪ Visit to Korakuen – one of Japan’s top 3 most celebrated gardens ▪ Travel on Japan’s famous Bullet Train ▪ 8 nights hotel accommodation (4 nights Kyoto and 4 nights Tokyo) ▪ Japanese Breakfast daily ▪ Welcome Dinner on first night of arrival and Farewell Dinner on the last night ▪ Scheduled return non-stop Economy class flights with Japan Airlines ▪ Airport transfers from Osaka Airport to Kyoto on arrival and from Tokyo to Narita Airport (Tokyo New International) on departure ▪ Services of a knowledgeable Japan Journey’s guide throughout Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales Have a great time, he said enviously. How long a flight is it from (I assume) Gatwick? It is 13 hours for us from Atlanta. If you are looking for a good Japanese guidebook, the "Open Road" Guide is excellent. Frommer's is close behind it. Fodor's is only for those who want to pay a lot of money. Be sure to sample from the Soba stands (carts) on city streets. There, you will get some of the best food in Japan. Make sure you have a lot of yen change; the cheapest beers are from vending machines. WHAT A GREAT IDEA!!!! ;-) Kirin Ichiban is the best beer -- much better than the Kirin you get over here! Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Bonsaiests are like genealogists: We know our roots! ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
On 2 Nov 2004 at 22:57, kevin bailey wrote:
I know this one's been around before and I have got Jim Lewis's excellent advice on trips around Tokyo saved. Does anyone else have favourite places to go, things to see and do in Japan. I am hopefully going from February 8th to 17th. It's an organised tour and the elements of the schedule proposed a- ▪ Visit to Kinashi Bonsai Village – the largest Bonsai village in Japan (over 270 gardens) ▪ Visit to Omiya Bonsai Village – Bonsai village near Tokyo ▪ Entry to Kokufu Bonsai-ten – the biggest annual Bonsai event in Japan ▪ Guided tours of Kyoto, Tokyo and Nara (Japan’s former ancient capital) ▪ Visit to Korakuen – one of Japan’s top 3 most celebrated gardens ▪ Travel on Japan’s famous Bullet Train ▪ 8 nights hotel accommodation (4 nights Kyoto and 4 nights Tokyo) ▪ Japanese Breakfast daily ▪ Welcome Dinner on first night of arrival and Farewell Dinner on the last night ▪ Scheduled return non-stop Economy class flights with Japan Airlines ▪ Airport transfers from Osaka Airport to Kyoto on arrival and from Tokyo to Narita Airport (Tokyo New International) on departure ▪ Services of a knowledgeable Japan Journey’s guide throughout Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales Have a great time, he said enviously. How long a flight is it from (I assume) Gatwick? It is 13 hours for us from Atlanta. If you are looking for a good Japanese guidebook, the "Open Road" Guide is excellent. Frommer's is close behind it. Fodor's is only for those who want to pay a lot of money. Be sure to sample from the Soba stands (carts) on city streets. There, you will get some of the best food in Japan. Make sure you have a lot of yen change; the cheapest beers are from vending machines. WHAT A GREAT IDEA!!!! ;-) Kirin Ichiban is the best beer -- much better than the Kirin you get over here! Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Bonsaiests are like genealogists: We know our roots! ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Kevin: Sounds like a cool trip. Wish I was going with you!
I presume you already know about this, but anyone traveling anywhere in Asia, including Japan, should browse through the Bonsai in Asia Guidebook web site by John Oldland at http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Palace/7574/ The section on Japan is at http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Palace/7574/japan.html Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org -----Original Message----- From: Internet Bonsai Club ] On Behalf Of kevin bailey Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 4:57 PM To: Subject: [IBC] Japan Trip I know this one's been around before and I have got Jim Lewis's excellent advice on trips around Tokyo saved. Does anyone else have favourite places to go, things to see and do in Japan. I am hopefully going from February 8th to 17th. It's an organised tour and the elements of the schedule proposed a- ▪ Visit to Kinashi Bonsai Village – the largest Bonsai village in Japan (over 270 gardens) ▪ Visit to Omiya Bonsai Village – Bonsai village near Tokyo ▪ Entry to Kokufu Bonsai-ten – the biggest annual Bonsai event in Japan ▪ Guided tours of Kyoto, Tokyo and Nara (Japan’s former ancient capital) ▪ Visit to Korakuen – one of Japan’s top 3 most celebrated gardens ▪ Travel on Japan’s famous Bullet Train ▪ 8 nights hotel accommodation (4 nights Kyoto and 4 nights Tokyo) ▪ Japanese Breakfast daily ▪ Welcome Dinner on first night of arrival and Farewell Dinner on the last night ▪ Scheduled return non-stop Economy class flights with Japan Airlines ▪ Airport transfers from Osaka Airport to Kyoto on arrival and from Tokyo to Narita Airport (Tokyo New International) on departure ▪ Services of a knowledgeable Japan Journey’s guide throughout Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Kevin: Sounds like a cool trip. Wish I was going with you!
I presume you already know about this, but anyone traveling anywhere in Asia, including Japan, should browse through the Bonsai in Asia Guidebook web site by John Oldland at http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Palace/7574/ The section on Japan is at http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Palace/7574/japan.html Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org -----Original Message----- From: Internet Bonsai Club ] On Behalf Of kevin bailey Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 4:57 PM To: Subject: [IBC] Japan Trip I know this one's been around before and I have got Jim Lewis's excellent advice on trips around Tokyo saved. Does anyone else have favourite places to go, things to see and do in Japan. I am hopefully going from February 8th to 17th. It's an organised tour and the elements of the schedule proposed a- ▪ Visit to Kinashi Bonsai Village – the largest Bonsai village in Japan (over 270 gardens) ▪ Visit to Omiya Bonsai Village – Bonsai village near Tokyo ▪ Entry to Kokufu Bonsai-ten – the biggest annual Bonsai event in Japan ▪ Guided tours of Kyoto, Tokyo and Nara (Japan’s former ancient capital) ▪ Visit to Korakuen – one of Japan’s top 3 most celebrated gardens ▪ Travel on Japan’s famous Bullet Train ▪ 8 nights hotel accommodation (4 nights Kyoto and 4 nights Tokyo) ▪ Japanese Breakfast daily ▪ Welcome Dinner on first night of arrival and Farewell Dinner on the last night ▪ Scheduled return non-stop Economy class flights with Japan Airlines ▪ Airport transfers from Osaka Airport to Kyoto on arrival and from Tokyo to Narita Airport (Tokyo New International) on departure ▪ Services of a knowledgeable Japan Journey’s guide throughout Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Kevin,
That sounds like a great trip schedule for sure. Who is sponsor/guide of the trip? Save money for Green Club and wear your "drool bucket" ala Saturday Night Live Circa '75 :) For gifts, there are GREAT gift marts in both Kyoto and Tokyo, but Kyoto is a bit bigger. Great place for most non-bonsai gifts to take home and even a few bonsai related artworks. They make and you can watch them do block prints there. Huge selection. Just down the street a tad from the one in Tokyo there is a CHEAP sushi place of the type with the conveyor belt running by and yu can take plates off then they tally up when you leave. CHEAP! I found the breakfasts so great ( especially at the New Miyako hotel in Kyoto across from bus/train station) that i could usually save money by not needing to eat again until evening. :) wish I was going! Regards, Dale Subject: [IBC] Japan Trip February 8th to 17th. It's an organised tour and the elements of the schedule proposed a- ▪ Visit to Kinashi Bonsai Village – the largest Bonsai village in Japan (over 270 gardens) ▪ Visit to Omiya Bonsai Village – Bonsai village near Tokyo ▪ Entry to Kokufu Bonsai-ten – the biggest annual Bonsai event in Japan ▪ Guided tours of Kyoto, Tokyo and Nara (Japan’s former ancient capital) ▪ Visit to Korakuen – one of Japan’s top 3 most celebrated gardens ▪ Travel on Japan’s famous Bullet Train ▪ 8 nights hotel accommodation (4 nights Kyoto and 4 nights Tokyo) ▪ Japanese Breakfast daily ▪ Welcome Dinner on first night of arrival and Farewell Dinner on the last night ▪ Scheduled return non-stop Economy class flights with Japan Airlines ▪ Airport transfers from Osaka Airport to Kyoto on arrival and from Tokyo to Narita Airport (Tokyo New International) on departure ▪ Services of a knowledgeable Japan Journey’s guide throughout Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
im booked cant wait the man organising this is a nice bloke lived in japan for 5 years
roll on february kevin bailey wrote: I know this one's been around before and I have got Jim Lewis's excellent advice on trips around Tokyo saved. Does anyone else have favourite places to go, things to see and do in Japan. I am hopefully going from February 8th to 17th. It's an organised tour and the elements of the schedule proposed a- ▪ Visit to Kinashi Bonsai Village – the largest Bonsai village in Japan (over 270 gardens) ▪ Visit to Omiya Bonsai Village – Bonsai village near Tokyo ▪ Entry to Kokufu Bonsai-ten – the biggest annual Bonsai event in Japan ▪ Guided tours of Kyoto, Tokyo and Nara (Japan’s former ancient capital) ▪ Visit to Korakuen – one of Japan’s top 3 most celebrated gardens ▪ Travel on Japan’s famous Bullet Train ▪ 8 nights hotel accommodation (4 nights Kyoto and 4 nights Tokyo) ▪ Japanese Breakfast daily ▪ Welcome Dinner on first night of arrival and Farewell Dinner on the last night ▪ Scheduled return non-stop Economy class flights with Japan Airlines ▪ Airport transfers from Osaka Airport to Kyoto on arrival and from Tokyo to Narita Airport (Tokyo New International) on departure ▪ Services of a knowledgeable Japan Journey’s guide throughout Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 01/11/2004 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Thanks everyone for the comments, advice and encouragement. I'm certain
to enjoy it, just hope I can fit in a few more of the things I'd really like to do. A photo shoot near Mt Fuji at dawn would be high on my list. A little Suiseki hunt (either shopping or a river bed) would also be nice. Just not certain there will be enough free time. The company is Japan Journeys in London http://www.japanjourneys.co.uk/index.htm and I'm making enquiries about the guide. Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales That sounds like a great trip schedule for sure. Who is sponsor/guide of the trip? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 01/11/2004 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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