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08-11-2004, 09:30 PM
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try MyBonsai v1.1 - it is freeware
Hi all,
I have developed a software called MyBonsai to help people in managing bonsai. MyBonsai is free... and I hope useful :-) You can download MyBonsai at: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/mybonsai/index_eng.htm Let me know your comments and suggestions for future improvements. Many thanks M. GIGAMAIL by X-Privat: http://www.x-privat.org/gigamail.php |
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#2
08-11-2004, 10:13 PM
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This may be a legitimate offer, or it may be an invitation
to a virus, worm or something similar. I would not recommend downloading software from someone you do not know. "M." is not familiar to me on this group. I know that not everyone posts and many participate only by reading, but this offer sounds very risky to me, and I would hate for any of my bonsai friends to be exploited by a prank just because it has bonsai in the label. "M.", feel free to assuage my apprehension about your offer. Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org -----Original Message----- From: Ego Hi all, I have developed a software called MyBonsai to help people in managing bonsai. MyBonsai is free... and I hope useful :-) You can download MyBonsai at: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/mybonsai/index_eng.htm Let me know your comments and suggestions for future improvements. Many thanks M. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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#4
09-11-2004, 01:53 PM
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On 8 Nov 2004 at 17:01, Jeff wrote:
This webpage says that it is freeware. Why must I then register freeware before 15 days so that it continues working? It might be a great piece of software for bonsai but I have never heard of registering freeware. Um . . the word "free" means you don't PAY anything for it. It has nothing at all to do with "registration." Registration for "freeware" isn't unheard of. It is: 1. a way of telling how many people really want to use your program. Download counting doesn't tell you that. 2. an opportunity for people to donate a tad here and there to help support someone. 3. A way of controlling the haphazard distribution of the software (and seeing some other person taking credit for it in some other forum). and 4. Totally up to the developer -- who has, after all, put more work into it than YOU have. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Bonsaiests are like genealogists: We know our roots! ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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#5
09-11-2004, 01:53 PM
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On 8 Nov 2004 at 17:01, Jeff wrote:
This webpage says that it is freeware. Why must I then register freeware before 15 days so that it continues working? It might be a great piece of software for bonsai but I have never heard of registering freeware. Um . . the word "free" means you don't PAY anything for it. It has nothing at all to do with "registration." Registration for "freeware" isn't unheard of. It is: 1. a way of telling how many people really want to use your program. Download counting doesn't tell you that. 2. an opportunity for people to donate a tad here and there to help support someone. 3. A way of controlling the haphazard distribution of the software (and seeing some other person taking credit for it in some other forum). and 4. Totally up to the developer -- who has, after all, put more work into it than YOU have. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Bonsaiests are like genealogists: We know our roots! ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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#6
09-11-2004, 01:59 PM
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On 8 Nov 2004 at 16:13, Alan Walker wrote:
This may be a legitimate offer, or it may be an invitation to a virus, worm or something similar. I would not recommend downloading software from someone you do not know. "M." is not familiar to me on this group. I know that not everyone posts and many participate only by reading, but this offer sounds very risky to me, and I would hate for any of my bonsai friends to be exploited by a prank just because it has bonsai in the label. "M.", feel free to assuage my apprehension about your offer. Well, if you have up-to-date virus software on your machine (as you should), you should not have to worry. If you're really paranoid and worry that a virus developer chose a bonsai group to launch a NEW virus, :-) wait a week, THEN download it after the virus software boys have a new DAT file out. But I checked it out; it appears to be clean. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect - Aldo Leopold - A Sand County Almanac ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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#7
09-11-2004, 10:53 PM
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Hi All,
.... sorry but I don't understand your mistrust. Virus, worm?????? I have simply developed a software to manage bonsai trees. Yes, I'm new because I'm searching for bonsai newsgroup to introduce my software since I have spent a lot of time in developing MyBonsai and I think it could be useful for some other user. Why to register a freeware? Simply, because this is the only way that I have to count MyBonsai users! Anyway... there's no problem... if you believe that MyBonsai is a virus or something similar do not download it... I hope other users will try my software and will give me feedbacks to improve it in a future release. Thanks Massimo "Ego" ha scritto nel messaggio ... Hi all, I have developed a software called MyBonsai to help people in managing bonsai. MyBonsai is free... and I hope useful :-) You can download MyBonsai at: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/mybonsai/index_eng.htm Let me know your comments and suggestions for future improvements. Many thanks M. GIGAMAIL by X-Privat: http://www.x-privat.org/gigamail.php GIGAMAIL by X-Privat: http://www.x-privat.org/gigamail.php |
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#8
10-11-2004, 12:54 AM
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On 9 Nov 2004 at 23:53, Ego wrote:
Hi All, ... sorry but I don't understand your mistrust. Virus, worm?????? I have simply developed a software to manage bonsai trees. Yes, I'm new because I'm searching for bonsai newsgroup to introduce my software since I have spent a lot of time in developing MyBonsai and I think it could be useful for some other user. Why to register a freeware? Simply, because this is the only way that I have to count MyBonsai users! Anyway... there's no problem... if you believe that MyBonsai is a virus or something similar do not download it... I hope other users will try my software and will give me feedbacks to improve it in a future release. Thanks Massimo Massimo . . . some people are just grumpy. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Usually I am the grumpy one. Not this time. ;-) ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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#9
10-11-2004, 03:54 AM
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Well, Jim, I didn't think I was grumpy at all. Massimo
got it right. I was mistrustful. I think there's ample reason for anyone to be mistrustful of offerings from unknown entities with no identifying information. The original was just signed "M." and the return name of "Ego" (Now we at least have a first name.) was suggestive of a prankster to me. I just didn't want anyone to get burned. Yours and the other response assuaged my concern about the program being a Trojan Horse. I remain... Cautiously yours, ;-) Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org On 9 Nov 2004 at 23:53, Ego wrote: Hi All, .... sorry but I don't understand your mistrust. Virus, worm?????? I have simply developed a software to manage bonsai trees. Yes, I'm new because I'm searching for bonsai newsgroup to introduce my software since I have spent a lot of time in developing MyBonsai and I think it could be useful for some other user. Why to register a freeware? Simply, because this is the only way that I have to count MyBonsai users! Anyway... there's no problem... if you believe that MyBonsai is a virus or something similar do not download it... I hope other users will try my software and will give me feedbacks to improve it in a future release. Thanks Massimo -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lewis Massimo . . . some people are just grumpy. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Usually I am the grumpy one. Not this time. ;-) ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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#10
10-11-2004, 06:24 AM
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Massimo you have a TOO big EGO calm down :-)
try to understand actually with all the problem of viruses and trojan horses everybidy is a little bit scared before dowloading and executing whatever would you have been a regular customer and known form everybody here as making bonsai and discussing about your pets here I would not mind to have downloaded it .. beside that I already have a nice software , developed by another Italian Pino Latini custoemr of an Italian bonsai site that is programmed to tell you every x years when to repot and you can open a bubble on each plant and add the works you have done.. quite easy to use but nothing substitute the papers IMHO . the time lost in writing is the same as for typing and the infermation is much more easily retrived and consulted on papers Theo Ego wrote: Hi All, ... sorry but I don't understand your mistrust. Virus, worm?????? I have simply developed a software to manage bonsai trees. Yes, I'm new because I'm searching for bonsai newsgroup to introduce my software since I have spent a lot of time in developing MyBonsai and I think it could be useful for some other user. Why to register a freeware? Simply, because this is the only way that I have to count MyBonsai users! Anyway... there's no problem... if you believe that MyBonsai is a virus or something similar do not download it... I hope other users will try my software and will give me feedbacks to improve it in a future release. Thanks Massimo "Ego" ha scritto nel messaggio ... Hi all, I have developed a software called MyBonsai to help people in managing bonsai. MyBonsai is free... and I hope useful :-) You can download MyBonsai at: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/mybonsai/index_eng.htm Let me know your comments and suggestions for future improvements. Many thanks M. GIGAMAIL by X-Privat: http://www.x-privat.org/gigamail.php GIGAMAIL by X-Privat: http://www.x-privat.org/gigamail.php -- MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
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#11
10-11-2004, 06:24 AM
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Massimo you have a TOO big EGO calm down :-)
try to understand actually with all the problem of viruses and trojan horses everybidy is a little bit scared before dowloading and executing whatever would you have been a regular customer and known form everybody here as making bonsai and discussing about your pets here I would not mind to have downloaded it .. beside that I already have a nice software , developed by another Italian Pino Latini custoemr of an Italian bonsai site that is programmed to tell you every x years when to repot and you can open a bubble on each plant and add the works you have done.. quite easy to use but nothing substitute the papers IMHO . the time lost in writing is the same as for typing and the infermation is much more easily retrived and consulted on papers Theo Ego wrote: Hi All, ... sorry but I don't understand your mistrust. Virus, worm?????? I have simply developed a software to manage bonsai trees. Yes, I'm new because I'm searching for bonsai newsgroup to introduce my software since I have spent a lot of time in developing MyBonsai and I think it could be useful for some other user. Why to register a freeware? Simply, because this is the only way that I have to count MyBonsai users! Anyway... there's no problem... if you believe that MyBonsai is a virus or something similar do not download it... I hope other users will try my software and will give me feedbacks to improve it in a future release. Thanks Massimo "Ego" ha scritto nel messaggio ... Hi all, I have developed a software called MyBonsai to help people in managing bonsai. MyBonsai is free... and I hope useful :-) You can download MyBonsai at: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/mybonsai/index_eng.htm Let me know your comments and suggestions for future improvements. Many thanks M. GIGAMAIL by X-Privat: http://www.x-privat.org/gigamail.php GIGAMAIL by X-Privat: http://www.x-privat.org/gigamail.php -- MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
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#12
10-11-2004, 06:28 AM
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Hi Alan Walker wrote: Well, Jim, I didn't think I was grumpy at all. Massimo got it right. I was mistrustful. I think there's ample reason for anyone to be mistrustful of offerings from unknown entities with no identifying information. The original was just signed "M." and the return name of "Ego" (Now we at least have a first name.) was suggestive of a prankster to me. I just didn't want anyone to get burned. Yours and the other response assuaged my concern about the program being a Trojan Horse. I remain... Cautiously yours, ;-) exactly, and Massimo /ego is not even e recurrent and know client here yesterday I was downloading a program from a site I was advised as a good one for downloads, and I had such a warning when wanted to exe the program that I gave up until I will have more information form the person taht gave me teh advice! MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
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#13
10-11-2004, 01:46 PM
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On 10 Nov 2004 at 7:24, Theo wrote:
Massimo you have a TOO big EGO calm down :-) try to understand actually with all the problem of viruses and trojan horses everybidy is a little bit scared before dowloading and executing whatever Actually "everybody" shouldn't be. Only those who are so dumb they don't keep their virus and spyware programs up to date. And THEY deserve what they get. So let's drop all this, shall we? Sheesh! The guy was trying to do something FOR you! Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Bonsaiests are like genealogists: We know our roots! ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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10-11-2004, 01:46 PM
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On 10 Nov 2004 at 7:24, Theo wrote:
Massimo you have a TOO big EGO calm down :-) try to understand actually with all the problem of viruses and trojan horses everybidy is a little bit scared before dowloading and executing whatever Actually "everybody" shouldn't be. Only those who are so dumb they don't keep their virus and spyware programs up to date. And THEY deserve what they get. So let's drop all this, shall we? Sheesh! The guy was trying to do something FOR you! Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Bonsaiests are like genealogists: We know our roots! ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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#15
10-11-2004, 05:05 PM
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Jim Lewis wrote:
On 10 Nov 2004 at 7:24, Theo wrote: Massimo you have a TOO big EGO calm down :-) try to understand actually with all the problem of viruses and trojan horses everybidy is a little bit scared before dowloading and executing whatever Actually "everybody" shouldn't be. Only those who are so dumb they don't keep their virus and spyware programs up to date Virus definitions and suchlike are always 'out of date'. Computer security companies don't issue updates until after they have discovered a vulnerability. How could they? Richard ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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