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[IBC] crabapples!
One of my wild collected crabapples is growing apples--lots of them.
Dozens. It's been four years since I collected it, and this is the first year that it flowered. I've got apple trees in the yard so I am assuming that the bees pollenated it from them. Anyway, I'm wondering if I should cut them off now before they develop much more and weaken the tree. Right now they're less than 1/4" in diameter. The tree is still in development--I'm growing a new apex which is healing over the trunk chop very well, and I'm afraid that if I allow the fruit to grow it might detract from this process. Any thoughts? Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Kevin Bailey++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
If the local critters let you, you can keep one or two
of the fruit, but I would take off the balance until your planned development is complete. Kits --- Craig Cowing wrote: One of my wild collected crabapples is growing apples--lots of them. Dozens. It's been four years since I collected it, and this is the first year that it flowered. I've got apple trees in the yard so I am assuming that the bees pollenated it from them. Anyway, I'm wondering if I should cut them off now before they develop much more and weaken the tree. Right now they're less than 1/4" in diameter. The tree is still in development--I'm growing a new apex which is healing over the trunk chop very well, and I'm afraid that if I allow the fruit to grow it might detract from this process. Any thoughts? Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Kevin Bailey++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ **** "Expectations are resentments under construction." Anne Lamott ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Kevin Bailey++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
On May 23, 2005, at 11:00 AM, Kitsune Miko wrote:
If the local critters let you, you can keep one or two of the fruit, but I would take off the balance until your planned development is complete. Kits I talked with Professor Anita, and she agreed. I'm going to leave a couple of clusters, but remove the rest. It seems to be a good sign, though, that the tree has enough energy to be putting out this much fruit. At this stage of the game, however, I'd like it to put the energy into building wood. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Kevin Bailey++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
One of my wild collected crabapples is growing apples--lots of them. Dozens. It's been four years since I collected it, and this is the first year that it flowered. I've got apple trees in the yard so I am assuming that the bees pollenated it from them. Anyway, I'm wondering if I should cut them off now before they develop much more and weaken the tree. Right now they're less than 1/4" in diameter. The tree is still in development--I'm growing a new apex which is healing over the trunk chop very well, and I'm afraid that if I allow the fruit to grow it might detract from this process. Any thoughts? I have 2 crabapples that I collected over 10 years ago. The trunks on each are about 3" . 2 years ago I finally got flowers and fruit on one of them. Last year I had a few apples as well. This year the tree is awesome. It had loads of flowers and 100s of fruit developed. The tree was in a greenhouse when it flowered and developed fruit so it pollinated on its own. matter of fact I have to remove some fruit, because I don't think the tree can handle that many. Each cluster has 5-7 fruit My other tree I cut back the branches last year. Now I plan to train it as a cascade. It has never had flowers. I think once it will finally have flowers next year. I used super phosphate in the fall on the one that flowered. SteveW Long Island NY ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Kevin Bailey++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Many times trees put out fruit if they feel theatened
so they can procreat if they should die. Sorry for the downer, but think it should be a thought. Kits --- Steven Wachs wrote: In a message dated 5/23/2005 12:53:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, writes: I talked with Professor Anita, and she agreed. I'm going to leave a couple of clusters, but remove the rest. It seems to be a good sign, though, that the tree has enough energy to be putting out this much fruit. At this stage of the game, however, I'd like it to put the energy into building wood. I have to remove some fruit also, but I have many clusters , so I think rather than remove clusters that contain 7 fruit I would remove most of fruit from each cluster, leaving maybe 2 or 3. This way I have the fruit distributed all over the tree. SteveW Long Island NY ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Kevin Bailey++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ **** "Expectations are resentments under construction." Anne Lamott ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Kevin Bailey++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
On May 24, 2005, at 9:16 AM, wrote:
In a message dated 5/23/2005 12:53:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, writes: I talked with Professor Anita, and she agreed. I'm going to leave a couple of clusters, but remove the rest. It seems to be a good sign, though, that the tree has enough energy to be putting out this much fruit. At this stage of the game, however, I'd like it to put the energy into building wood. I have to remove some fruit also, but I have many clusters , so I think rather than remove clusters that contain 7 fruit I would remove most of fruit from each cluster, leaving maybe 2 or 3. This way I have the fruit distributed all over the tree.* * SteveW Long Island NY What I did was to remove all but a couple of clusters on different main branches. The tree won't be ready for display for several more years, so appearance isn't important. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Kevin Bailey++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Many times trees put out fruit if they feel theatened
so they can procreat if they should die. Sorry for the downer, but think it should be a thought. I sure glad that isn't the case wit my trees. I have 3 Pyracanthas and a Cotoneaster with loads of flowers that will form berries. I checked the roots on the Crabapples and they are and they are healthy and plentiful. I think it's fine. Matter of fact next year it gets a new pot. SteveW Long Island NY ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Kevin Bailey++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
On May 24, 2005, at 3:12 PM, Steve wachs wrote:
Many times trees put out fruit if they feel theatened so they can procreat if they should die. Sorry for the downer, but think it should be a thought. I sure glad that isn't the case wit my trees. I have 3 Pyracanthas and a Cotoneaster with loads of flowers that will form berries. I checked the roots on the Crabapples and they are and they are healthy and plentiful. I think it's fine. Matter of fact next year it gets a new pot. SteveW Long Island NY Certainly isn't the case with mine either. Both are growing vigorously, and the major cuts I made three years ago are healing over well. I repotted the larger of the two this spring, and the smaller one last year. The larger one will stay in its new pot for another couple of years, and the smaller one for this year. Craig Cowing NY Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Kevin Bailey++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Kits, this is true of brine shrimp in an evaporating pond, and perhaps
for annual weeds in a drought, but I have never heard that this is true of perennial plants. Can you cite an example? |
Nina wrote:
Kits, this is true of brine shrimp in an evaporating pond, and perhaps for annual weeds in a drought, but I have never heard that this is true of perennial plants. Can you cite an example? I was told by our county forester (agric. extension) that loblolly pines hit by pine tree borers bloom prolifically the spring of the year they die (usually in late summer when their damaged xylem can no longer function in the heat). The needles are still pretty green in the spring but the clouds of pollen wafting off of them can indicate a majorly stressed tree. We had two old apple trees die on us 4 and 5 years ago. Both of them bloomed prolifically the spring before they died; neither bore fruit that year, however. I have heard of other examples of pre-death blooming, but specifics don't come to mind at the moment. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Kevin Bailey++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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