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[email protected] 28-06-2005 02:51 AM

[IBC] Defoliation & Repotting
 
I just defoliated a ficus nerifolia. As I was working I realized the tree
is no doubt in need of repotting. Can this be done at the same time or do I
need to wait after defoliation? If so, how long....until new leaves emerge?
Thanks,
Carol in Ft. Lauderdale, Zone 10

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Billy M. Rhodes 28-06-2005 07:52 AM

In a message dated 6/27/2005 9:57:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
writes:

I just defoliated a Ficus nerifolia. As I was working I realized the tree

is no doubt in need of repotting. Can this be done at the same time or do
I
need to wait after defoliation? If so, how long....until new leaves
emerge?
Thanks,
Carol in Ft. Lauderdale, Zone 10


Repot now. Where you live you can do just about anything to F. nerifolia at
anytime.
Are you aware that the State Bonsai Conf. is this Friday, Saturday and Sunday
in Cape Canaveral about 2 1/2 hours north of you?

Billy on the Florida Space Coast

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Jim Lewis 28-06-2005 01:24 PM

wrote:
I just defoliated a ficus nerifolia. As I was working I realized the tree
is no doubt in need of repotting. Can this be done at the same time or do I
need to wait after defoliation? If so, how long....until new leaves emerge?
Thanks,
Carol in Ft. Lauderdale, Zone 10


I don't know that much about Ficus, but I never repot and
defoliate in the same year.

Jim Lewis -
- Tallahassee, FL - Nature
encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Jim 28-06-2005 04:46 PM

At 08:51 PM 6/27/2005, wrote:
I just defoliated a ficus nerifolia. As I was working I realized the tree
is no doubt in need of repotting. Can this be done at the same time or do I
need to wait after defoliation? If so, how long....until new leaves emerge?


Carol,

No problem and this is a great time to do it

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K S 28-06-2005 06:32 PM

Hi all,

I have taken a small cutting from a Fukien Tea
(Carmona microphylla). Will cuttings of Fukien Tea's
root? If so, what suggestions on getting a successful
rooting would you suggest?

Keith


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GK 28-06-2005 10:13 PM

I was at a garden supply store the other day and asked if there were any
"bonsai clubs" in the area. I was told no, not to their knowledge,
although they gave me names of other garden centers that might have
information.

However, I was also told, "The problem with bonsais is, a bonsai is a
plant. And plants like to grow, and do not like small pots."

So, it sounded like there was something inherently wrong in keeping a
bonsai.

I have one bonsai currently. A Fukien Tea.

Pauline Muth 28-06-2005 11:01 PM

If you give us a place, we can probably come up with the closest club.
There is NOTHING inherently wrong with bonsai...you just need to educate
yourself.
Here on the IBC and at local clubs and with ABS and BCI and lots of
people...we can help
Pauline Muth

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From: Internet Bonsai Club ]On Behalf
Of GK
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 5:13 PM
To:
Subject: [IBC] Bonsai philosophy


I was at a garden supply store the other day and asked if there were any
"bonsai clubs" in the area. I was told no, not to their knowledge,
although they gave me names of other garden centers that might have
information.

However, I was also told, "The problem with bonsais is, a bonsai is a
plant. And plants like to grow, and do not like small pots."

So, it sounded like there was something inherently wrong in keeping a
bonsai.

I have one bonsai currently. A Fukien Tea.

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Jim Lewis 28-06-2005 11:42 PM

GK wrote:
I was at a garden supply store the other day and asked if there were any
"bonsai clubs" in the area. I was told no, not to their knowledge,
although they gave me names of other garden centers that might have
information.

However, I was also told, "The problem with bonsais is, a bonsai is a
plant. And plants like to grow, and do not like small pots."

So, it sounded like there was something inherently wrong in keeping a
bonsai.

I have one bonsai currently. A Fukien Tea.


That's not allowed.

You _must_ have more than one! It's the law!

That nursery seems like a great candidate for the bonsiests'
favorite trick: Go in, buy big, 6-foot tree with great
base, pay for it. Pull out Felco clippers, chop off top 5
feet. Leave with base in pot. :)

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - People,
when Columbus discovered this country, it was plum full of
nuts and berries. And I'm right here to tell you (that) the
berries are just about all gone. -- Uncle Dave Macon, musician

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Craig Cowing 28-06-2005 11:50 PM

On Jun 28, 2005, at 6:40 PM, Jim Lewis wrote:

GK wrote:
I was at a garden supply store the other day and asked if there were
any "bonsai clubs" in the area. I was told no, not to their
knowledge, although they gave me names of other garden centers that
might have information.
However, I was also told, "The problem with bonsais is, a bonsai is a
plant. And plants like to grow, and do not like small pots."
So, it sounded like there was something inherently wrong in keeping a
bonsai.
I have one bonsai currently. A Fukien Tea.


That's not allowed.

You _must_ have more than one! It's the law!

That nursery seems like a great candidate for the bonsiests' favorite
trick: Go in, buy big, 6-foot tree with great base, pay for it. Pull
out Felco clippers, chop off top 5 feet. Leave with base in pot. :)

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - People, when
Columbus discovered this country, it was plum full of nuts and
berries. And I'm right here to tell you (that) the berries are just
about all gone. -- Uncle Dave Macon, musician


I think that's an excellent idea. Be sure the owner is watching. Leave
a little more than a foot--maybe 2 ft.

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a sunset 37

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Jim Lewis 28-06-2005 11:55 PM

Craig Cowing wrote:

On Jun 28, 2005, at 6:40 PM, Jim Lewis wrote:

GK wrote:

I was at a garden supply store the other day and asked if there were
any "bonsai clubs" in the area. I was told no, not to their
knowledge, although they gave me names of other garden centers that
might have information.
However, I was also told, "The problem with bonsais is, a bonsai is a
plant. And plants like to grow, and do not like small pots."
So, it sounded like there was something inherently wrong in keeping a
bonsai.
I have one bonsai currently. A Fukien Tea.



That's not allowed.

You _must_ have more than one! It's the law!

That nursery seems like a great candidate for the bonsiests' favorite
trick: Go in, buy big, 6-foot tree with great base, pay for it. Pull
out Felco clippers, chop off top 5 feet. Leave with base in pot. :)

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - People, when
Columbus discovered this country, it was plum full of nuts and
berries. And I'm right here to tell you (that) the berries are just
about all gone. -- Uncle Dave Macon, musician


I think that's an excellent idea. Be sure the owner is watching. Leave a
little more than a foot--maybe 2 ft.



Too big, Craig.

Jim Lewis -
- Hit THINK before you hit SEND

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Kitsune Miko 29-06-2005 12:27 AM

I have done this! 10' olive in a 15 gal can. I had a
Triumph Spitfire at the time. It's a really nice
bonsai.

Kits

--- Jim Lewis wrote:

Craig Cowing wrote:

On Jun 28, 2005, at 6:40 PM, Jim Lewis wrote:

GK wrote:

I was at a garden supply store the other day and

asked if there were
any "bonsai clubs" in the area. I was told

no, not to their
knowledge, although they gave me names of other

garden centers that
might have information.
However, I was also told, "The problem with

bonsais is, a bonsai is a
plant. And plants like to grow, and do not like

small pots."
So, it sounded like there was something

inherently wrong in keeping a
bonsai.
I have one bonsai currently. A Fukien Tea.


That's not allowed.

You _must_ have more than one! It's the law!

That nursery seems like a great candidate for the

bonsiests' favorite
trick: Go in, buy big, 6-foot tree with great

base, pay for it. Pull
out Felco clippers, chop off top 5 feet. Leave

with base in pot. :)

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee,

FL - People, when
Columbus discovered this country, it was plum

full of nuts and
berries. And I'm right here to tell you (that)

the berries are just
about all gone. -- Uncle Dave Macon, musician


I think that's an excellent idea. Be sure the

owner is watching. Leave a
little more than a foot--maybe 2 ft.



Too big, Craig.

Jim Lewis -
- Hit THINK before
you hit SEND


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Steve wachs 29-06-2005 01:46 AM


If he was xorrect there would be no Bonsai. Obvioulsy a tree will adjust to it's environment, with assistance

SteveW
Long Island NY


-----Original Message-----
From: GK
To:
Sent: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:13:19 GMT
Subject: [IBC] Bonsai philosophy


I was at a garden supply store the other day and asked if there were any
"bonsai clubs" in the area. I was told no, not to their knowledge,
although they gave me names of other garden centers that might have
information.

However, I was also told, "The problem with bonsais is, a bonsai is a
plant. And plants like to grow, and do not like small pots."

So, it sounded like there was something inherently wrong in keeping a
bonsai.

I have one bonsai currently. A Fukien Tea.

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Alan Walker 29-06-2005 02:39 AM

Yeah, you need more than one bonsai. Otherwise, you're at
high risk of loving your bonsai to death.
As for bonsai not "liking" small pots, I know of no
convincing evidence that plants are sentient and "like" or
"dislike" anything. They do respond to their environment,
however, and container culture requires some horticultural skills
to be successful. I doubt that the nursery where you heard that
comment had any plants which were not growing in containers.
Bonsai isn't for the lazy; that is true. Bonsai is a
responsibility, but less work or skill is involved than
maintaining a pet. It's not hard or mystical. There is a logic to
the care and design of bonsai. Some people seem to have innate
talents, both artistic and horticultural, but it's not rocket
science. Anyone can learn how to create and maintain bonsai with
a little commitment.
If you'll share where you live, we can point you to the
nearest bonsai club(s).
Alan Walker
http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org

-----Original Message-----
I was at a garden supply store the other day and asked if
there were any "bonsai clubs" in the area. I was told no, not to
their knowledge, although they gave me names of other garden
centers that might have information.
However, I was also told, "The problem with bonsais is, a
bonsai is a plant. And plants like to grow, and do not like
small pots." So, it sounded like there was something inherently
wrong in keeping a
bonsai.
I have one bonsai currently. A Fukien Tea.

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Jim 29-06-2005 02:40 AM

At 12:32 PM 6/28/2005, K S wrote:
I have taken a small cutting from a Fukien Tea
(Carmona microphylla). Will cuttings of Fukien Tea's
root? If so, what suggestions on getting a successful
rooting would you suggest?

Keith,


Fukien Tea root very easily with minimal care. I dip the bottom in
"Rootone" or equivalent and insert in a mix of equal parts perlite and
vermiculite, water and sit in my greenhouse out of direct sun. I seldom
have a failure.

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Craig Cowing 29-06-2005 02:55 AM

On Jun 28, 2005, at 6:53 PM, Jim Lewis wrote:

Craig Cowing wrote:

I think that's an excellent idea. Be sure the owner is watching.
Leave a little more than a foot--maybe 2 ft.

Too big, Craig.

Jim Lewis - - Hit THINK before you hit SEND


Fooey and fiddlesticks!! ;0)

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a
Sunset 37


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