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Kathy 05-01-2006 10:46 PM

Carrot monsters
 
For the last three years I've planted carrots well after last spring
frost and dug them in November at first winter frost to put them in the
root cellar. They grow big around here. Individual carrots can weigh 3
pounds or more. But they tend not to look quite like carrots ought.
They might have four inch shoulders and five tap roots. They might have
two roots twined. They might be split and grown inside out. They're
perfectly good to eat if I can clean all the dirt from their various
crevices, but the split ones where the cores boil out like brains
sometimes look so - ugh! - that it's kind of hard to face them.

There's no sign of bugs or disease, and the soil is a relatively light
mixture of sandy dirt and manure. I thought maybe I'd selected the
wrong planting date. So last year I planted one row at the usual date
and three more after that, each a month apart. The fourth batch barely
sprouted in the heat of summer and had no roots at harvest time. The
third batch looked like baby carrots but they were all perfectly
formed. The second batch were about the size of grocery store carrots
with a fair share of sports. And the first batch, as usual, were big
but about half had odd shapes.

The pile from the oldest row weighed twice as much as all the rest
combined. They were brighter orange and tasted sweeter too, so I don't
think I want to give up starting carrots right away after last frost.
But is there any way to grow them that big and NOT get carrot monsters?

Kathy


Dwayne 06-01-2006 03:16 AM

Carrot monsters
 
I have seen that before in Ft Collins, CO. I have no idea why, except that
he used a soaker hose on them and gave them plenty of water. You might take
a soil sample to your extension office and have them test it. That will
give you some idea what the problem is.

Dwayne

"Kathy" wrote in message
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For the last three years I've planted carrots well after last spring
frost and dug them in November at first winter frost to put them in the
root cellar. They grow big around here. Individual carrots can weigh 3
pounds or more. But they tend not to look quite like carrots ought.
They might have four inch shoulders and five tap roots. They might have
two roots twined. They might be split and grown inside out. They're
perfectly good to eat if I can clean all the dirt from their various
crevices, but the split ones where the cores boil out like brains
sometimes look so - ugh! - that it's kind of hard to face them.

There's no sign of bugs or disease, and the soil is a relatively light
mixture of sandy dirt and manure. I thought maybe I'd selected the
wrong planting date. So last year I planted one row at the usual date
and three more after that, each a month apart. The fourth batch barely
sprouted in the heat of summer and had no roots at harvest time. The
third batch looked like baby carrots but they were all perfectly
formed. The second batch were about the size of grocery store carrots
with a fair share of sports. And the first batch, as usual, were big
but about half had odd shapes.

The pile from the oldest row weighed twice as much as all the rest
combined. They were brighter orange and tasted sweeter too, so I don't
think I want to give up starting carrots right away after last frost.
But is there any way to grow them that big and NOT get carrot monsters?

Kathy




GA Pinhead 06-01-2006 03:30 AM

Carrot monsters
 
Like Dwayne said, soil test time. I would say the manure might be too
much nitrogen. Since you don't have rocks, that will cause some odd
shaped ones around here.

John!

Kathy wrote:

There's no sign of bugs or disease, and the soil is a relatively light
mixture of sandy dirt and manure.

Kathy


aem 06-01-2006 05:21 AM

Carrot monsters
 

Kathy wrote:
For the last three years I've planted carrots well after last spring
frost and dug them in November at first winter frost to put them in the
root cellar. They grow big around here. Individual carrots can weigh 3
pounds or more. But they tend not to look quite like carrots ought.
They might have four inch shoulders and five tap roots. They might have
two roots twined. They might be split and grown inside out. They're
perfectly good to eat if I can clean all the dirt from their various
crevices, but the split ones where the cores boil out like brains
sometimes look so - ugh! - that it's kind of hard to face them.
[snip]


Interesting. What variety are they? Some are more prone to branching
out than others. My guess would be the soil is too fertile; cut back
on the manure.

Also interesting that they are still good eating when they've grown so
large. I succession plant them (here in SoCal nearly all year round)
because we like to harvest them when they're about half the size of
grocery store carrots. So tender and sweet that way. -aem


rmwatkin 06-01-2006 03:06 PM

Carrot monsters
 
Hi All,

If carrots fork or are mishapen it is because the soil is to rich. Cut back
on the manure. Carrots should be planted on soil that was manured the
previous year. Hope this helps you.

Richard M. Watkin.

"Kathy" wrote in message
ups.com...
For the last three years I've planted carrots well after last spring
frost and dug them in November at first winter frost to put them in the
root cellar. They grow big around here. Individual carrots can weigh 3
pounds or more. But they tend not to look quite like carrots ought.
They might have four inch shoulders and five tap roots. They might have
two roots twined. They might be split and grown inside out. They're
perfectly good to eat if I can clean all the dirt from their various
crevices, but the split ones where the cores boil out like brains
sometimes look so - ugh! - that it's kind of hard to face them.

There's no sign of bugs or disease, and the soil is a relatively light
mixture of sandy dirt and manure. I thought maybe I'd selected the
wrong planting date. So last year I planted one row at the usual date
and three more after that, each a month apart. The fourth batch barely
sprouted in the heat of summer and had no roots at harvest time. The
third batch looked like baby carrots but they were all perfectly
formed. The second batch were about the size of grocery store carrots
with a fair share of sports. And the first batch, as usual, were big
but about half had odd shapes.

The pile from the oldest row weighed twice as much as all the rest
combined. They were brighter orange and tasted sweeter too, so I don't
think I want to give up starting carrots right away after last frost.
But is there any way to grow them that big and NOT get carrot monsters?

Kathy




Kathy 06-01-2006 06:48 PM

Carrot monsters
 
I've had the same trouble with Red Cored Chantenay and Danvers Half
Long. I'm trying Healthmaster - that high vitamin A carrot - this year.

I too was surprised to find that the older carrots were sweeter. I
would have thought that "young and tender" would be preferable. But
perhaps that has to do with the purpose that I have for them. I try to
lay in 40-50 pounds for the winter. Because my storage "root cellars"
are old cold chests in the garage, I can't harvest until the weather
gets cold. So perhaps my younger bunch were yellow-orange and not very
sweet because they were started in July and harvested in November,
instead of being started in spring and harvested in the heat of summer
as yours may be.

Kathy


Zax 07-01-2006 09:57 AM

Carrot monsters
 
GA Pinhead wrote:
Like Dwayne said, soil test time. I would say the manure might be too
much nitrogen. Since you don't have rocks, that will cause some odd
shaped ones around here.

John!

Kathy wrote:


There's no sign of bugs or disease, and the soil is a relatively light
mixture of sandy dirt and manure.
Kathy


Seconded. If your soil is too rich, it will cause fanging. Stop laying
manure for a little while and grow something else that will appreciate a
slightly richer soil.

shazzbat 07-01-2006 03:10 PM

Carrot monsters
 

"Kathy" wrote in message
ups.com...
SNIP

But is there any way to grow them that big and NOT get carrot monsters?


The manure in your soil is the most likely cause of the 'fanging', roots are
best grown after beans etc in the rotation schedule so the soil is not so
rich.

The splitting is most likely to be a result of heavy rain/watering after a
prolonged dry period.

Steve



simy1 09-01-2006 02:32 PM

Carrot monsters
 

Kathy wrote:
For the last three years I've planted carrots well after last spring
frost and dug them in November at first winter frost to put them in the
root cellar. They grow big around here. Individual carrots can weigh 3
pounds or more. But they tend not to look quite like carrots ought.


The good news is that usually one year is enough to leach the excess
nitrogen,
specially in sandy soil.
You can either leave next year carrot patch alone (add nothing), or you
could
consider some wood ash for K (if the soil is acid enough). Then regular
watering
will give you well shaped monster carrots. In fact, I manure my beds
every two
years, to account for those crops that do not need nitrogen (beans and
peas,
carrots and parsnips, even chicory and beets will do well without
manure).



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