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Shumway orders, anyone?
I'd like to hear what kind of turnaround people have had with seed orders
this spring. On March 7th, I placed an order with R. H. Shumway's and was told two items were backordered and would ship later. I was not told of any delay for the remainder of the shipment. Finally today (March 25th), I called about the status of my order. I was told they were "three weeks behind and it will be next week before your order is shipped." She very generously will "expedite" my order after I told her I was given no indication at the time of ordering there was any delay and certainly not that shipment wouldn't even happen for three or four weeks. Perhaps I've been very spoiled by all other merchandise I've ordered by mail, always receiving it within a week, usually three days. I'm not accustomed to the casual attitude about an order not having been shipped over two weeks after it was ordered (and being told it will be another week before it's shipped and 7 to 10 days for delivery!). Geez, by the time it gets here, I can buy half-grown plants at the nursery. Honestly, in past years, some of my tomato plants have already been in the ground prior to the end of March, and most of my plants by mid-April (harvested broccoli and cauliflower in June and tomato plants six feet tall with no special care). It may have been wiser to drive to Territorial Seed Company which is about 150 miles due south. I've always purchased seeds locally and not by mail. Is it common to wait several weeks before your merchandise is even shipped? Glenna |
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Shumway orders, anyone?
Good point. I'm begging to get a bit worried about an order I sent to
Marshalls over three weeks ago. Are other people having difficulty with Mail order stuff? |
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Shumway orders, anyone?
I had problems three years ago with Shumway sending me the wrong seeds
and refusing to make good on the order. That's when I decided not to order from them again. I don't own stock in these companies but have always gotten what I ordered and in a reasonable time frame: Pinetree Seeds, Johnny's Select Seed, and Burpee's. All have a web presence. George Glenna Rose wrote: I'd like to hear what kind of turnaround people have had with seed orders this spring. On March 7th, I placed an order with R. H. Shumway's and was told two items were backordered and would ship later. I was not told of any delay for the remainder of the shipment. Finally today (March 25th), I called about the status of my order. I was told they were "three weeks behind and it will be next week before your order is shipped." She very generously will "expedite" my order after I told her I was given no indication at the time of ordering there was any delay and certainly not that shipment wouldn't even happen for three or four weeks. Perhaps I've been very spoiled by all other merchandise I've ordered by mail, always receiving it within a week, usually three days. I'm not accustomed to the casual attitude about an order not having been shipped over two weeks after it was ordered (and being told it will be another week before it's shipped and 7 to 10 days for delivery!). Geez, by the time it gets here, I can buy half-grown plants at the nursery. Honestly, in past years, some of my tomato plants have already been in the ground prior to the end of March, and most of my plants by mid-April (harvested broccoli and cauliflower in June and tomato plants six feet tall with no special care). It may have been wiser to drive to Territorial Seed Company which is about 150 miles due south. I've always purchased seeds locally and not by mail. Is it common to wait several weeks before your merchandise is even shipped? Glenna |
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(Glenna Rose) wrote:
Is it common to wait several weeks before your merchandise is even shipped? It should not be. Johnny's gets web orders out the business day after receipt, and back orders are rare. But I'm prejudiced... Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1200' elevation. NY WO G |
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Shumway orders, anyone?
I really like Pinetree, main reason is because I don't have to order 200
seeds of something to try it, Pinetree sells in smaller packets. Pat is right about the service too. A few years ago they were in the midst of a ice storm that shut off their electricity and they worked in parkas with flashlights to get their orders out. This year they sent me someone else's seeds, I emailed them about it and sent the seeds on to the original purchaser as the invoice was in the package. Pinetree sent me four packs of seeds to cover my "costs." That was something they didn't have to do but did it anyway. George Pat Meadows wrote: On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:07:52 -0800, (Glenna Rose) wrote: I'd like to hear what kind of turnaround people have had with seed orders this spring. This spring, I've ordered seeds by mail from Pinetree Garden Seeds and Evergreen Seeds. Both orders arrived within about a week. Pinetree back-ordered one item (out of about 40), and shipped it two weeks later. Pat -- CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY United States: http://www.stopthehunger.com/ International: http://www.thehungersite.com/ |
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:23:28 -0600, George Shirley
wrote: I really like Pinetree, main reason is because I don't have to order 200 seeds of something to try it, Pinetree sells in smaller packets. Pat is right about the service too. A few years ago they were in the midst of a ice storm that shut off their electricity and they worked in parkas with flashlights to get their orders out. This year they sent me someone else's seeds, I emailed them about it and sent the seeds on to the original purchaser as the invoice was in the package. Pinetree sent me four packs of seeds to cover my "costs." That was something they didn't have to do but did it anyway. That's why I ordered from Pinetree - the smaller quantities and lower prices. I had not ordered from them before, but other people had recommended them to me. I only want to wind up with 2 Early Girl Tomato plants, 2 Better Boys and 2 Sweet Millions - I don't need a whole bunch of seeds for them. Pinetree - http://www.superseeds.com/ And Evergreen is (by far) the best source of Oriental vegetable seeds of which I'm aware. By far. Orders of magnitude better than others I'm aware of. I've used Evergreen's seeds before, and they have always worked well for me. http://www.evergreenseeds.com I particularly enjoy growing (and eating!) the Chinese veggies. So far this season, I've started two kinds of lettuce seeds, bok choy, choy sum, cilantro, Swiss chard, Red Robin tomatoes (miniature tomatoes that will grow in 8" pots - I've grown them before and it's really true), and Early Girl tomatoes. Many more to come soon. Pat -- CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY United States: http://www.stopthehunger.com/ International: http://www.thehungersite.com/ |
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Shumway orders, anyone?
I ordered from Shumway last year but wait for weeks(5-10 weeks) and
nothing happened. So I called and cancelled most stuff. This year I learned from my mistake, so I ordered very early on from Johnny's, Park Seed, Pinetree, Evergreen and have no problem, everything arrived within a week. Funny enough this year Shumway wrote a long letter in their catalog and apologizing for last year problem, they said they fixed the problem due to changing seed wherehouse or some lame excuse like that. I went ahead and ordered some from them just to see what happened and surely enough some were late, not all, but some were delay for weeks. I don't think I get all of my seeds yet. I think I will not order from them anymore, I gave them more than one chance. Quyen |
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Shumway orders, anyone?
Glenna Rose said:
I've always purchased seeds locally and not by mail. Is it common to wait several weeks before your merchandise is even shipped? A lot depends on when you order. Ordering in early January is usually faster than ordering in February or March from just about anybody. If a catalog shows them going to extended hours for phone orders at some date, that's a clue for when they get *really* busy. Order *before* that date. Ordering with a credit card is faster than by check. I prefer to order by phone (even if they don't have a toll-free number -- I've got pretty cheap long distance rates). It saves time in the turn-around (and less chance of error). Shumway's is associated with Seymour's and Vermont Bean Seed. In my experience, ok but not necessarily top notch. Territorial, Johnny's, Pinetree are all great. Stokes is also top notch, and quick as long as you order early. -- Pat in Plymouth MI Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (attributed to Don Marti) |
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On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 05:41:45 -0600, (Pat
Kiewicz) wrote: Glenna Rose said: I've always purchased seeds locally and not by mail. Is it common to wait several weeks before your merchandise is even shipped? A lot depends on when you order. Ordering in early January is usually faster than ordering in February or March from just about anybody. If a catalog shows them going to extended hours for phone orders at some date, that's a clue for when they get *really* busy. Order *before* that date. Ordering with a credit card is faster than by check. I prefer to order by phone (even if they don't have a toll-free number -- I've got pretty cheap long distance rates). It saves time in the turn-around (and less chance of error). Even less chance of error if you order online - this is what I've done this year. I LOVE ordering online. Fast, efficient, no busy signals, what I say can't be misunderstood, etc. I still like to have the written catalogs though: I go through them first and make a list of what I'm going to order. Pat -- CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY United States: http://www.stopthehunger.com/ International: http://www.thehungersite.com/ |
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Shumway orders, anyone?
R.H. Shumway sent me seeds that were packaged to be sold in stores(some off
brand) and on top of that they were dated packaged for 2002. Since I ordered very early this year I guess I got their oldest seeds. Glenna Rose wrote: I'd like to hear what kind of turnaround people have had with seed orders this spring. On March 7th, I placed an order with R. H. Shumway's and was told two items were backordered and would ship later. I was not told of any delay for the remainder of the shipment. Finally today (March 25th), I called about the status of my order. I was told they were "three weeks behind and it will be next week before your order is shipped." She very generously will "expedite" my order after I told her I was given no indication at the time of ordering there was any delay and certainly not that shipment wouldn't even happen for three or four weeks. Perhaps I've been very spoiled by all other merchandise I've ordered by mail, always receiving it within a week, usually three days. I'm not accustomed to the casual attitude about an order not having been shipped over two weeks after it was ordered (and being told it will be another week before it's shipped and 7 to 10 days for delivery!). Geez, by the time it gets here, I can buy half-grown plants at the nursery. Honestly, in past years, some of my tomato plants have already been in the ground prior to the end of March, and most of my plants by mid-April (harvested broccoli and cauliflower in June and tomato plants six feet tall with no special care). It may have been wiser to drive to Territorial Seed Company which is about 150 miles due south. I've always purchased seeds locally and not by mail. Is it common to wait several weeks before your merchandise is even shipped? Glenna |
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Shumway orders, anyone?
Shumway's is associated with Seymour's and Vermont Bean Seed. In my experience, ok but not necessarily top notch. Territorial, Johnny's, Pinetree are all great. Stokes is also top notch, and quick as long as you order early. Actually Jung took over Shumways about three years ago. They had problems last year and during the off-season moved to Wisconsin so they supposedly would have better service. sounds like it didn't happen. Of course many companies which are experiencing rapid turnovers in ownership have this type of problem. When Shumway was in Graniteville SC, they supplied the PYO growers right out of the plant, so there was no trouble to pick up the bulk seeds. Under Jung, they are strictly mailorder and the only reason that I can think of to order from them is that they carry some of the older hard to find varieties, They seem to be abandoning those as well. dill |
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(Pat Kiewicz) wrote in message ...
Glenna Rose said: I've always purchased seeds locally and not by mail. Is it common to wait several weeks before your merchandise is even shipped? A lot depends on when you order. Ordering in early January is usually faster than ordering in February or March from just about anybody. If a catalog shows them going to extended hours for phone orders at some date, that's a clue for when they get *really* busy. Order *before* that date. Ordering with a credit card is faster than by check. I prefer to order by phone (even if they don't have a toll-free number -- I've got pretty cheap long distance I recently starting using https://www.onesuite.com/ long distance at 2.9 cents per minute for USA calls and to Canada for 3.5. It is basically a prepaid phone card but you can do away with the PIN for calls from home. No monthly fee or minimum. There is a surchage for calls from payphones. If you use the promotion code "034720367" we both get some free miniutes. Being frugal, I get ISP for ISP for $5.75 a month: from http://www.neandertech.com/ . Invalid Email above, but you may reach me via List owner at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nyctalent/ |
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