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zxcvbob 07-06-2006 02:15 AM

Bunching onion seeds that I shoulda planted in early March
 
Should I plant them now, or wait until fall, or maybe next year (I know
they'll only have 50% germination at best next year.)

I'm in Minnesota, land of the almost midnight sun, and I'm not sure what
the extremely long days will do to a bunching onion seedling. The
variety is Crimson Forest.

Thanks,
Bob

Pat Kiewicz 07-06-2006 11:31 AM

Bunching onion seeds that I shoulda planted in early March
 
zxcvbob said:

Should I plant them now, or wait until fall, or maybe next year (I know
they'll only have 50% germination at best next year.)

I'm in Minnesota, land of the almost midnight sun, and I'm not sure what
the extremely long days will do to a bunching onion seedling. The
variety is Crimson Forest.


I'd go for it. See what happens. I don't think 'Welsh'/bunching onions
(A. fistulosum) bulb up much in any case, long days or short. Or, if
you live in a mild winter area, wait until later this summer and start
them for winter harvest.

(A fresh packet next year would add less than a dollar to a seed order from
Pinetree Garden Seeds.)

--
Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast)

Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
(attributed to Don Marti)


John Ladasky 07-06-2006 04:55 PM

Bunching onion seeds that I shoulda planted in early March
 
zxcvbob wrote:
Should I plant them now, or wait until fall, or maybe next year (I know
they'll only have 50% germination at best next year.)

I'm in Minnesota, land of the almost midnight sun, and I'm not sure what
the extremely long days will do to a bunching onion seedling. The
variety is Crimson Forest.

Thanks,
Bob


I'm in California, and I am holding on to my bunching onion seeds until
the fall. Day length is not my reason for keeping the seeds --
temperature is.

My vegetable garden book lists minimum, optimal, and maximum soil
temperatures for the germination of several types of seeds. Onions
prefer lower temperatures. Minimum temperature = 32°F; optimal =
80°F; maximum = 95°F.

The book cautions that soil temperatures can exceed air temperatures by
as much as 20 degrees. I wish I had read that part before wasting
seeds and water. Air temperatures in my area haven't gone above 85°
yet this season, but I'm sure that the soil has gotten significantly
hotter than that.

I tried getting a second round of carrots, coriander, and chicory
started three weeks ago. I have ONE new coriander seedling. The
carrot seeds have the same maximum temperature as the onion seeds.

At the same time, I started tomato and cantaloupe seeds. They have
germinated readily.

Hope that helps!

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zxcvbob 07-06-2006 05:29 PM

Bunching onion seeds that I shoulda planted in early March
 
John Ladasky wrote:
zxcvbob wrote:
Should I plant them now, or wait until fall, or maybe next year (I know
they'll only have 50% germination at best next year.)

I'm in Minnesota, land of the almost midnight sun, and I'm not sure what
the extremely long days will do to a bunching onion seedling. The
variety is Crimson Forest.

Thanks,
Bob


I'm in California, and I am holding on to my bunching onion seeds until
the fall. Day length is not my reason for keeping the seeds --
temperature is.

My vegetable garden book lists minimum, optimal, and maximum soil
temperatures for the germination of several types of seeds. Onions
prefer lower temperatures. Minimum temperature = 32°F; optimal =
80°F; maximum = 95°F.

The book cautions that soil temperatures can exceed air temperatures by
as much as 20 degrees. I wish I had read that part before wasting
seeds and water. Air temperatures in my area haven't gone above 85°
yet this season, but I'm sure that the soil has gotten significantly
hotter than that.




Thanks. I just planted the seeds this morning. When I get home I'll
shade them for about a week so they don't get too hot.

Bob


eric gilson 26-01-2012 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Ladasky (Post 646067)
zxcvbob wrote:
Should I plant them now, or wait until fall, or maybe next year (I know
they'll only have 50% germination at best next year.)

I'm in Minnesota, land of the almost midnight sun, and I'm not sure what
the extremely long days will do to a bunching onion seedling. The
variety is Crimson Forest.

Thanks,
Bob


I'm in California, and I am holding on to my bunching onion seeds until
the fall. Day length is not my reason for keeping the seeds --
temperature is.

My vegetable garden book lists minimum, optimal, and maximum soil
temperatures for the germination of several types of seeds. Onions
prefer lower temperatures. Minimum temperature = 32°F; optimal =
80°F; maximum = 95°F.

The book cautions that soil temperatures can exceed air temperatures by
as much as 20 degrees. I wish I had read that part before wasting
seeds and water. Air temperatures in my area haven't gone above 85°
yet this season, but I'm sure that the soil has gotten significantly
hotter than that.

I tried getting a second round of carrots, coriander, and chicory
started three weeks ago. I have ONE new coriander seedling. The
carrot seeds have the same maximum temperature as the onion seeds.

At the same time, I started tomato and cantaloupe seeds. They have
germinated readily.

Hope that helps!

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what book do you have that tells you the seed temps? Id like to add it to my garden books.


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