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Old 07-06-2006, 02:15 AM posted to rec.gardens.edible,rec.gardens
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Default Bunching onion seeds that I shoulda planted in early March

Should I plant them now, or wait until fall, or maybe next year (I know
they'll only have 50% germination at best next year.)

I'm in Minnesota, land of the almost midnight sun, and I'm not sure what
the extremely long days will do to a bunching onion seedling. The
variety is Crimson Forest.

Thanks,
Bob

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Old 07-06-2006, 11:31 AM posted to rec.gardens.edible,rec.gardens
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Default Bunching onion seeds that I shoulda planted in early March

zxcvbob said:

Should I plant them now, or wait until fall, or maybe next year (I know
they'll only have 50% germination at best next year.)

I'm in Minnesota, land of the almost midnight sun, and I'm not sure what
the extremely long days will do to a bunching onion seedling. The
variety is Crimson Forest.


I'd go for it. See what happens. I don't think 'Welsh'/bunching onions
(A. fistulosum) bulb up much in any case, long days or short. Or, if
you live in a mild winter area, wait until later this summer and start
them for winter harvest.

(A fresh packet next year would add less than a dollar to a seed order from
Pinetree Garden Seeds.)

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Default Bunching onion seeds that I shoulda planted in early March

zxcvbob wrote:
Should I plant them now, or wait until fall, or maybe next year (I know
they'll only have 50% germination at best next year.)

I'm in Minnesota, land of the almost midnight sun, and I'm not sure what
the extremely long days will do to a bunching onion seedling. The
variety is Crimson Forest.

Thanks,
Bob


I'm in California, and I am holding on to my bunching onion seeds until
the fall. Day length is not my reason for keeping the seeds --
temperature is.

My vegetable garden book lists minimum, optimal, and maximum soil
temperatures for the germination of several types of seeds. Onions
prefer lower temperatures. Minimum temperature = 32F; optimal =
80F; maximum = 95F.

The book cautions that soil temperatures can exceed air temperatures by
as much as 20 degrees. I wish I had read that part before wasting
seeds and water. Air temperatures in my area haven't gone above 85
yet this season, but I'm sure that the soil has gotten significantly
hotter than that.

I tried getting a second round of carrots, coriander, and chicory
started three weeks ago. I have ONE new coriander seedling. The
carrot seeds have the same maximum temperature as the onion seeds.

At the same time, I started tomato and cantaloupe seeds. They have
germinated readily.

Hope that helps!

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Default Bunching onion seeds that I shoulda planted in early March

John Ladasky wrote:
zxcvbob wrote:
Should I plant them now, or wait until fall, or maybe next year (I know
they'll only have 50% germination at best next year.)

I'm in Minnesota, land of the almost midnight sun, and I'm not sure what
the extremely long days will do to a bunching onion seedling. The
variety is Crimson Forest.

Thanks,
Bob


I'm in California, and I am holding on to my bunching onion seeds until
the fall. Day length is not my reason for keeping the seeds --
temperature is.

My vegetable garden book lists minimum, optimal, and maximum soil
temperatures for the germination of several types of seeds. Onions
prefer lower temperatures. Minimum temperature = 32F; optimal =
80F; maximum = 95F.

The book cautions that soil temperatures can exceed air temperatures by
as much as 20 degrees. I wish I had read that part before wasting
seeds and water. Air temperatures in my area haven't gone above 85
yet this season, but I'm sure that the soil has gotten significantly
hotter than that.




Thanks. I just planted the seeds this morning. When I get home I'll
shade them for about a week so they don't get too hot.

Bob

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zxcvbob wrote:
Should I plant them now, or wait until fall, or maybe next year (I know
they'll only have 50% germination at best next year.)

I'm in Minnesota, land of the almost midnight sun, and I'm not sure what
the extremely long days will do to a bunching onion seedling. The
variety is Crimson Forest.

Thanks,
Bob


I'm in California, and I am holding on to my bunching onion seeds until
the fall. Day length is not my reason for keeping the seeds --
temperature is.

My vegetable garden book lists minimum, optimal, and maximum soil
temperatures for the germination of several types of seeds. Onions
prefer lower temperatures. Minimum temperature = 32F; optimal =
80F; maximum = 95F.

The book cautions that soil temperatures can exceed air temperatures by
as much as 20 degrees. I wish I had read that part before wasting
seeds and water. Air temperatures in my area haven't gone above 85
yet this season, but I'm sure that the soil has gotten significantly
hotter than that.

I tried getting a second round of carrots, coriander, and chicory
started three weeks ago. I have ONE new coriander seedling. The
carrot seeds have the same maximum temperature as the onion seeds.

At the same time, I started tomato and cantaloupe seeds. They have
germinated readily.

Hope that helps!

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what book do you have that tells you the seed temps? Id like to add it to my garden books.


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