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General Schvantzkoph 09-06-2006 06:36 PM

What to strawberries have against tomatoes?
 
I've just put in a new vegetable garden. After I planted the strawberries
I noticed that the container said not to plant them where tomatoes have
been grown within the last three years. Why can't you plant strawberries
on the same land as tomatoes? How far apart do they have to be?


cloud dreamer 09-06-2006 07:10 PM

What to strawberries have against tomatoes?
 
General Schvantzkoph wrote:

I've just put in a new vegetable garden. After I planted the strawberries
I noticed that the container said not to plant them where tomatoes have
been grown within the last three years. Why can't you plant strawberries
on the same land as tomatoes? How far apart do they have to be?



They share several soil-borne diseases that overwinter in the soil that
would be a problem especially in damp climates. Personally, I would put
as much distance as possible between them.

This is the reason I grow my tomatoes and potatoes in containers. The
soil is never used again with any vegetables and the plant parts are
never composted, so there's no risk of passing on these diseases to
other plants.

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Pat Kiewicz 09-06-2006 07:19 PM

What to strawberries have against tomatoes?
 
General Schvantzkoph said:

I've just put in a new vegetable garden. After I planted the strawberries
I noticed that the container said not to plant them where tomatoes have
been grown within the last three years. Why can't you plant strawberries
on the same land as tomatoes? How far apart do they have to be?

It cautioned against because strawberries can be devestated by verticillium
wilt, which also infects tomatoes. (And, since many modern varieties
of tomatoes were selected to resist/tolerate verticillium wilt, it may be
possible to have it in your soil without having seen really obvious signs in.)

Verticillium wilt of strawberry:
http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/3000/3012.html

Quoting:

"The fungus can be introduced into uninfested soil on seed, tools and farm
machinery, and in the soil and roots of transplants."

"Do not plant susceptible strawberry cultivars in soil where tomato,
peppers, potato, eggplant, melons, okra, mint, brambles, stone fruits,
chrysanthemums, rose or related susceptible crops have grown for the
past five years."
--
Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast)

Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
(attributed to Don Marti)


General Schvantzkoph 09-06-2006 07:43 PM

What to strawberries have against tomatoes?
 
On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:19:05 -0500, Pat Kiewicz wrote:

General Schvantzkoph said:

I've just put in a new vegetable garden. After I planted the strawberries
I noticed that the container said not to plant them where tomatoes have
been grown within the last three years. Why can't you plant strawberries
on the same land as tomatoes? How far apart do they have to be?

It cautioned against because strawberries can be devestated by verticillium
wilt, which also infects tomatoes. (And, since many modern varieties
of tomatoes were selected to resist/tolerate verticillium wilt, it may be
possible to have it in your soil without having seen really obvious signs in.)

Verticillium wilt of strawberry:
http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/3000/3012.html

Quoting:

"The fungus can be introduced into uninfested soil on seed, tools and farm
machinery, and in the soil and roots of transplants."

"Do not plant susceptible strawberry cultivars in soil where tomato,
peppers, potato, eggplant, melons, okra, mint, brambles, stone fruits,
chrysanthemums, rose or related susceptible crops have grown for the
past five years."


Thanks, I'll move them to the other edge of the garden. I've let this land
lay fallow for 20 years so the soil should be clean at them moment,
however I've put in several dozen tomato plants as well as some peppers,
basil, oregano and rosemary (it's a spaghetti sauce garden). I'll move the
strawberries about 10 feet.





TQ 10-06-2006 02:04 AM

What to strawberries have against tomatoes?
 

"General Schvantzkoph" wrote in message
...
I've just put in a new vegetable garden. After I planted the strawberries
I noticed that the container said not to plant them where tomatoes have
been grown within the last three years. Why can't you plant strawberries
on the same land as tomatoes? How far apart do they have to be?


Set new plants 24" apart. Not to worry about the large initial spacing b/c
the mother plants will send out plenty of daughter plants and fill in the
bed nicely after one year and completely after two.

Take good care to keep them well tended during the summer. Come September,
apply fertilizer.

http://ssfruit.cas.psu.edu/chapter8/chapter8a.htm
http://www.ext.vt.edu/departments/en.../feb90pr6.html



James 10-06-2006 03:49 PM

What to strawberries have against tomatoes?
 

Pat Kiewicz wrote:
General Schvantzkoph said:
Quoting:

"The fungus can be introduced into uninfested soil on seed, tools and farm
machinery, and in the soil and roots of transplants."

"Do not plant susceptible strawberry cultivars in soil where tomato,
peppers, potato, eggplant, melons, okra, mint, brambles, stone fruits,
chrysanthemums, rose or related susceptible crops have grown for the
past five years."
--
Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast)

Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
(attributed to Don Marti)


Chist! That list is about everything I have in my plot right
now.except I don't know if the strawberry is susceptible.



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