In the Vegetable Gardner's Bible, it cautions against starting peas and,
beans indoors. Anyone have a clue as to why that is? Until the last few
years, I've always purchased beans and peas as starter plants. They
weren't sown. My desire to put in starter plants rather than seeds is
based on my experience with roaming gangs of evil-doing gastropods and
their cute little friends, the rolly pollies, devouring all my little
buddies with cell walls at night. Things have improved this year but the
reflex remains.

The book also cautions against trellising beans where peas have just
been. I only have so much trellis, garden, and Sun. Any ideas? Anyone?
Anyone?

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

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William Rose wrote:

In the Vegetable Gardner's Bible, it cautions against starting peas and,
beans indoors. Anyone have a clue as to why that is? Until the last few
years, I've always purchased beans and peas as starter plants. They
weren't sown. My desire to put in starter plants rather than seeds is
based on my experience with roaming gangs of evil-doing gastropods and
their cute little friends, the rolly pollies, devouring all my little
buddies with cell walls at night. Things have improved this year but the
reflex remains.

The book also cautions against trellising beans where peas have just
been. I only have so much trellis, garden, and Sun. Any ideas? Anyone?
Anyone?

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

I've always trellised beans...

Why is it bad?
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William Rose wrote:

In the Vegetable Gardner's Bible, it cautions against starting peas and,
beans indoors. Anyone have a clue as to why that is? Until the last few
years, I've always purchased beans and peas as starter plants. They
weren't sown. My desire to put in starter plants rather than seeds is
based on my experience with roaming gangs of evil-doing gastropods and
their cute little friends, the rolly pollies, devouring all my little
buddies with cell walls at night. Things have improved this year but the
reflex remains.

The book also cautions against trellising beans where peas have just
been. I only have so much trellis, garden, and Sun. Any ideas? Anyone?
Anyone?

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

I've always trellised beans...

Why is it bad?


It's not the trellising...it's doing it for beans where peas had just
been. I'm guessing there's a disease risk between the two closely
related guys....like not planting tomatoes where potatoes have just been
(and vice versa).

..

Zone 5b in Canada's Far East.

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Omelet wrote:
In article
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William Rose wrote:

In the Vegetable Gardner's Bible, it cautions against starting peas and,
beans indoors. Anyone have a clue as to why that is? Until the last few
years, I've always purchased beans and peas as starter plants. They
weren't sown. My desire to put in starter plants rather than seeds is
based on my experience with roaming gangs of evil-doing gastropods and
their cute little friends, the rolly pollies, devouring all my little
buddies with cell walls at night. Things have improved this year but the
reflex remains.

The book also cautions against trellising beans where peas have just
been. I only have so much trellis, garden, and Sun. Any ideas? Anyone?
Anyone?

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

I've always trellised beans...

Why is it bad?


It's not the trellising...it's doing it for beans where peas had just
been. I'm guessing there's a disease risk between the two closely
related guys....like not planting tomatoes where potatoes have just been
(and vice versa).

..

Zone 5b in Canada's Far East.

Oh, sorry... I did not read it right.

I have grown peas and beans side by side with no problems, but maybe I
was just lucky.

I have read about the nightshade family thing not mixing, but I never
grow spuds as we don't eat them. I do want to try Yams this year tho'.
I understand those are in the morning glory family.
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I suspect if you do all the things the gardening books tell you not to
do, your garden will suffer from it. On the other hand if you do most of
them right, and you gaff a few, you may not notice the difference in the
results. I keep planting my crops in the same place because of the Sun.
The sunniest spot goes to the corn, next sunniest to the peppers, next
sunniest to the tomatoes cucumbers, and the melons, then the lettuce and
roots and lastly to the Swiss chard. There is no possibility of rotating
them because of their individual needs.

I did have to move my basil from the lettuce patch because of fulsarium
wilt (or some such) but that is the only real problem I've had with the
terrain. The basil seems much happier in pots of the stairs anyway.

When mid-June rolls around, out go the peas and in go the beans.

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

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Omelet wrote:
In article
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William Rose wrote:

In the Vegetable Gardner's Bible, it cautions against starting peas
and, beans indoors. Anyone have a clue as to why that is? Until the
last few years, I've always purchased beans and peas as starter
plants. They weren't sown. My desire to put in starter plants rather
than seeds is based on my experience with roaming gangs of
evil-doing gastropods and their cute little friends, the rolly
pollies, devouring all my little buddies with cell walls at night.
Things have improved this year but the reflex remains.

The book also cautions against trellising beans where peas have just
been. I only have so much trellis, garden, and Sun. Any ideas?
Anyone? Anyone?

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

I've always trellised beans...

Why is it bad?


It's not the trellising...it's doing it for beans where peas had just
been. I'm guessing there's a disease risk between the two closely
related guys....like not planting tomatoes where potatoes have just
been (and vice versa).

..

Zone 5b in Canada's Far East.

One suggestion I have is beans and peas both like to add nitrogen to the
soil, and nitrogen makes for green leafy plants. You might get more
plant than fruit by planting beans and peas in the same spots year after
year.

This is just my guess.

Puckdropper

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In article
,
William Rose wrote:

I suspect if you do all the things the gardening books tell you not to
do, your garden will suffer from it. On the other hand if you do most of
them right, and you gaff a few, you may not notice the difference in the
results. I keep planting my crops in the same place because of the Sun.
The sunniest spot goes to the corn, next sunniest to the peppers, next
sunniest to the tomatoes cucumbers, and the melons, then the lettuce and
roots and lastly to the Swiss chard. There is no possibility of rotating
them because of their individual needs.

I've done the same. I just try to renew the soil as needed with fresh
topsoil, compost, etc.


I did have to move my basil from the lettuce patch because of fulsarium
wilt (or some such) but that is the only real problem I've had with the
terrain. The basil seems much happier in pots of the stairs anyway.

lol My Basil does best in pots too, in the greenhouse.
I actually managed to winter some over last year.


When mid-June rolls around, out go the peas and in go the beans.

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)
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Omelet wrote:
In article
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William Rose wrote:

In the Vegetable Gardner's Bible, it cautions against starting peas
and, beans indoors. Anyone have a clue as to why that is? Until the
last few years, I've always purchased beans and peas as starter
plants. They weren't sown. My desire to put in starter plants rather
than seeds is based on my experience with roaming gangs of
evil-doing gastropods and their cute little friends, the rolly
pollies, devouring all my little buddies with cell walls at night.
Things have improved this year but the reflex remains.

The book also cautions against trellising beans where peas have just
been. I only have so much trellis, garden, and Sun. Any ideas?
Anyone? Anyone?

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

I've always trellised beans...

Why is it bad?


It's not the trellising...it's doing it for beans where peas had just
been. I'm guessing there's a disease risk between the two closely
related guys....like not planting tomatoes where potatoes have just
been (and vice versa).

..

Zone 5b in Canada's Far East.

One suggestion I have is beans and peas both like to add nitrogen to the
soil, and nitrogen makes for green leafy plants. You might get more
plant than fruit by planting beans and peas in the same spots year after
year.

This is just my guess.

Puckdropper

Or add more bone meal to the soil to balance it out???

Worked for me for the bulb (flower) garden,. :-)
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Hi All,
I have allways started beans and peas inside the green house with no
problem. you can start them in a length of plastic gutter and slide them out
of the gutter in to a prepared trench, or you can start them in pots, but
the gutter is better. Hope this helps you.

Richard M. Watkin.

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In the Vegetable Gardner's Bible, it cautions against starting peas and,
beans indoors. Anyone have a clue as to why that is? Until the last few
years, I've always purchased beans and peas as starter plants. They
weren't sown. My desire to put in starter plants rather than seeds is
based on my experience with roaming gangs of evil-doing gastropods and
their cute little friends, the rolly pollies, devouring all my little
buddies with cell walls at night. Things have improved this year but the
reflex remains.

The book also cautions against trellising beans where peas have just
been. I only have so much trellis, garden, and Sun. Any ideas? Anyone?
Anyone?

- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

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cloud dreamer wrote:

Omelet wrote:
In article
,
William Rose wrote:

In the Vegetable Gardner's Bible, it cautions against starting peas and,
beans indoors. Anyone have a clue as to why that is? Until the last few
years, I've always purchased beans and peas as starter plants. They
weren't sown. My desire to put in starter plants rather than seeds is
based on my experience with roaming gangs of evil-doing gastropods and
their cute little friends, the rolly pollies, devouring all my little
buddies with cell walls at night. Things have improved this year but the
reflex remains.

The book also cautions against trellising beans where peas have just
been. I only have so much trellis, garden, and Sun. Any ideas? Anyone?
Anyone?


I've always trellised beans...

Why is it bad?


It's not the trellising...it's doing it for beans where peas had just
been. I'm guessing there's a disease risk between the two closely
related guys....like not planting tomatoes where potatoes have just been
(and vice versa).


Oh, sorry... I did not read it right.

I have grown peas and beans side by side with no problems, but maybe I
was just lucky.

I have read about the nightshade family thing not mixing, but I never
grow spuds as we don't eat them. I do want to try Yams this year tho'.
I understand those are in the morning glory family.


No, the issue isn't about having them growing near each other at
the same time. Rather, it is about doing a new crop, after the
old one is finished.

With tomatoes/potatoes (and maybe beans/peas) there is a disease
organism that gets into the soil. So, if you keep planting, say,
tomatoes in the same spot each year, the disease may build up
until it attacks the plants.

So, the answer is to put that item in a different spot each year.
This lets the previous spot rest, and the disease organism in the
soil there eventually dies off.

This (soon-ending) season's tomato area will be restocked with
spinach, broccoli, etc. And next spring's tomatoes will go in a
different place.


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cloud dreamer wrote:

Omelet wrote:
In article
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William Rose wrote:

In the Vegetable Gardner's Bible, it cautions against starting peas and,
beans indoors. Anyone have a clue as to why that is? Until the last few
years, I've always purchased beans and peas as starter plants. They
weren't sown. My desire to put in starter plants rather than seeds is
based on my experience with roaming gangs of evil-doing gastropods and
their cute little friends, the rolly pollies, devouring all my little
buddies with cell walls at night. Things have improved this year but the
reflex remains.

The book also cautions against trellising beans where peas have just
been. I only have so much trellis, garden, and Sun. Any ideas? Anyone?
Anyone?


I've always trellised beans...

Why is it bad?


It's not the trellising...it's doing it for beans where peas had just
been. I'm guessing there's a disease risk between the two closely
related guys....like not planting tomatoes where potatoes have just been
(and vice versa).


Oh, sorry... I did not read it right.

I have grown peas and beans side by side with no problems, but maybe I
was just lucky.

I have read about the nightshade family thing not mixing, but I never
grow spuds as we don't eat them. I do want to try Yams this year tho'.
I understand those are in the morning glory family.


No, the issue isn't about having them growing near each other at
the same time. Rather, it is about doing a new crop, after the
old one is finished.

With tomatoes/potatoes (and maybe beans/peas) there is a disease
organism that gets into the soil. So, if you keep planting, say,
tomatoes in the same spot each year, the disease may build up
until it attacks the plants.

So, the answer is to put that item in a different spot each year.
This lets the previous spot rest, and the disease organism in the
soil there eventually dies off.

This (soon-ending) season's tomato area will be restocked with
spinach, broccoli, etc. And next spring's tomatoes will go in a
different place.


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that is true if u do not rotate your garden just as we do with our fields every year u eventually end up with things like fusarium wilt and crooked necked corn or corn bore and other such things happening.
so the best thing to do is to rotate your crops so that the corn bore infestation as well as the other oganisms that cause plant diseases die off.
cyaaaa, sockiescat.