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George[_3_] 12-06-2007 03:42 AM

pruning tomatoes
 
I vaguely recall once reading that cutting the lower (lowest?)
side-shoots of your tomatoes cause something good to happen. True? If
true, is there a 'window of opportunity' for doing it? Ours are about
1' high right now.

Thanks,
George

Wane Smooth 12-06-2007 03:48 PM

pruning tomatoes
 
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 02:42:24 GMT, George wrote:

I vaguely recall once reading that cutting the lower (lowest?)
side-shoots of your tomatoes cause something good to happen. True? If
true, is there a 'window of opportunity' for doing it? Ours are about
1' high right now.

Thanks,
George


Hi George some varieties of tomatoes are bush tomatoes these you leave to
get on with it and take out no side shoots.
Others you can grow as a cordon. With this method you pinch out ALL the
side shoots as they appear,or when you see them (not critical). When the
plant has 3 or 4 trusses of flowers you pinch the top of the plant off and
stop it growing. All the plants energies then goes into the forming fruit.

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The Cook 12-06-2007 08:24 PM

pruning tomatoes
 
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 02:42:24 GMT, George wrote:

I vaguely recall once reading that cutting the lower (lowest?)
side-shoots of your tomatoes cause something good to happen. True? If
true, is there a 'window of opportunity' for doing it? Ours are about
1' high right now.

Thanks,
George



I have never taken out the shoots on any of my tomato plants. More
shoots, more tomatoes. I also do not take the top off of my
indeterminant tomatoes.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

jimnginger 16-06-2007 12:48 AM

pruning tomatoes
 
On Jun 12, 12:24?pm, The Cook wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 02:42:24 GMT, George wrote:
I vaguely recall once reading that cutting the lower (lowest?)
side-shoots of your tomatoes cause something good to happen. True? If
true, is there a 'window of opportunity' for doing it? Ours are about
1' high right now.


Thanks,
George


I have never taken out the shoots on any of my tomato plants. More
shoots, more tomatoes. I also do not take the top off of my
indeterminant tomatoes.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)


There are two schools of thoughts on tomatoes. One that prunes and one
that does not. I do not. Organic Gardening Magazine once did an
article on this subject and compared yield of a tomato plant both
pruned and unpruned. The yield was the SAME. So in the end, I think it
is an issue of esthetics and time you have available. They may look
better pruned, but the season yield will aparently be the same. Enough
said. Regards - Jim


Billy Rose 16-06-2007 01:54 AM

pruning tomatoes
 
In article .com,
jimnginger wrote:

On Jun 12, 12:24?pm, The Cook wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 02:42:24 GMT, George wrote:
I vaguely recall once reading that cutting the lower (lowest?)
side-shoots of your tomatoes cause something good to happen. True? If
true, is there a 'window of opportunity' for doing it? Ours are about
1' high right now.


Thanks,
George


I have never taken out the shoots on any of my tomato plants. More
shoots, more tomatoes. I also do not take the top off of my
indeterminant tomatoes.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)


There are two schools of thoughts on tomatoes. One that prunes and one
that does not. I do not. Organic Gardening Magazine once did an
article on this subject and compared yield of a tomato plant both
pruned and unpruned. The yield was the SAME. So in the end, I think it
is an issue of esthetics and time you have available. They may look
better pruned, but the season yield will aparently be the same. Enough
said. Regards - Jim


As Susan said there are two types of tomatoes: determinant and
indeterminate. Determinant grow like a bush and then stop.
Indeterminate grow like a vine and don't stop. Just off hand, I can't
think of one heirloom tomato that is a determinant. Maybe somebody will
think of one. In the past, I've just let the tomato rip and enjoyed
watching it climb until it finally toppled over its' support. My
supports are only about 4' high but the tomato would go to over 6'. I
suppose you could build a taller cage. Tomato toppers will tell you to
top when the tomato gets to the top of its' cage. I've never been
disappointed in my tomatoes productivity.

Thing is, when the tomato flops over, a lot of the plant that had been
exposed to sunlight is now shaded by the flopped over top growth. I
could cut that growth off but I would be wasting the energy that went
into growing it. You see where I'm going with this? This year I'm
topping, just to see what difference it makes. Hopefully, my tomatoes
won't be so unkempt and more energy will go into making tomatoes or at
least, in to making them earlier.

You will see that between the growing flowering tip and a side leaf a
sprout (actually a sucker: sucks the energy out of the plant is the
hypothesis). I don't believe these make flowers. Need to check that but
it is vegetation. The reasoning is that with tomatoes, you don't want
vegetation, you want fruit. One way or the other you'll have 'maters but
at some point you may want to fine tune it. A whole lot of people say
pruning and snipping is the way to do it.

I'll let you know how it works out for me.

- Billy
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

Grave Yard Guy 16-06-2007 03:12 AM

pruning tomatoes
 
As Susan said there are two types of tomatoes: determinant and
indeterminate. Determinant grow like a bush and then stop.
Indeterminate grow like a vine and don't stop. Just off hand, I can't
think of one heirloom tomato that is a determinant. Maybe somebody will
think of one. In the past, I've just let the tomato rip and enjoyed
watching it climb until it finally toppled over its' support. My
supports are only about 4' high but the tomato would go to over 6'. I
suppose you could build a taller cage. Tomato toppers will tell you to
top when the tomato gets to the top of its' cage. I've never been
disappointed in my tomatoes productivity.

Thing is, when the tomato flops over, a lot of the plant that had been
exposed to sunlight is now shaded by the flopped over top growth. I
could cut that growth off but I would be wasting the energy that went
into growing it. You see where I'm going with this? This year I'm
topping, just to see what difference it makes. Hopefully, my tomatoes
won't be so unkempt and more energy will go into making tomatoes or at
least, in to making them earlier.

You will see that between the growing flowering tip and a side leaf a
sprout (actually a sucker: sucks the energy out of the plant is the
hypothesis). I don't believe these make flowers. Need to check that but
it is vegetation. The reasoning is that with tomatoes, you don't want
vegetation, you want fruit. One way or the other you'll have 'maters but
at some point you may want to fine tune it. A whole lot of people say
pruning and snipping is the way to do it.

I'll let you know how it works out for me.

- Billy
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)


A third school of thought ? I remove the suckers until the first set of
blooms appear on the main stem. The theory being that all the initial
energy, after the young plant is established, is going to produce a sturdier
main stem and more or earlier blooms. After that, I remove any that get too
large and in the way.

Suckers DO produce flowers and therefore tomatoes. I've found several cherry
tomato varieties produce an abundance more with suckers left to their own
thing, rather than pinching them. I can't speak for any other size or
variety.

Graveyard Guy



Billy Rose 16-06-2007 06:06 AM

pruning tomatoes
 
In article JGHci.730$Fk7.320@trnddc01,
"Grave Yard Guy" wrote:

As Susan said there are two types of tomatoes: determinant and
indeterminate. Determinant grow like a bush and then stop.
Indeterminate grow like a vine and don't stop. Just off hand, I can't
think of one heirloom tomato that is a determinant. Maybe somebody will
think of one. In the past, I've just let the tomato rip and enjoyed
watching it climb until it finally toppled over its' support. My
supports are only about 4' high but the tomato would go to over 6'. I
suppose you could build a taller cage. Tomato toppers will tell you to
top when the tomato gets to the top of its' cage. I've never been
disappointed in my tomatoes productivity.

Thing is, when the tomato flops over, a lot of the plant that had been
exposed to sunlight is now shaded by the flopped over top growth. I
could cut that growth off but I would be wasting the energy that went
into growing it. You see where I'm going with this? This year I'm
topping, just to see what difference it makes. Hopefully, my tomatoes
won't be so unkempt and more energy will go into making tomatoes or at
least, in to making them earlier.

You will see that between the growing flowering tip and a side leaf a
sprout (actually a sucker: sucks the energy out of the plant is the
hypothesis). I don't believe these make flowers. Need to check that but
it is vegetation. The reasoning is that with tomatoes, you don't want
vegetation, you want fruit. One way or the other you'll have 'maters but
at some point you may want to fine tune it. A whole lot of people say
pruning and snipping is the way to do it.

I'll let you know how it works out for me.

- Billy
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)


A third school of thought ? I remove the suckers until the first set of
blooms appear on the main stem. The theory being that all the initial
energy, after the young plant is established, is going to produce a sturdier
main stem and more or earlier blooms. After that, I remove any that get too
large and in the way.

Suckers DO produce flowers and therefore tomatoes. I've found several cherry
tomato varieties produce an abundance more with suckers left to their own
thing, rather than pinching them. I can't speak for any other size or
variety.

Graveyard Guy


And bim-batta-boom, we are wiser already.

Thank you Graveyard Guy,

- Bill
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)


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