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doofy 30-07-2007 08:36 PM

composters and proximity to plants
 
I'm about to put in a patio garden. I live in a townhouse. If I put a
composter in the small space I've got, will this be a disease source for
the plants I'll have there? What do I do with the "tea" from the bottom
of the composter? If it stinks, I'm sure my neighbors won't want me to
let it drain into our common slab.

What is a good, self-contained composting unit that I can use on a
concrete slab?

vert20 30-07-2007 09:44 PM

composters and proximity to plants
 
On Jul 30, 3:36 pm, doofy wrote:
I'm about to put in a patio garden. I live in a townhouse. If I put a
composter in the small space I've got, will this be a disease source for
the plants I'll have there? What do I do with the "tea" from the bottom
of the composter? If it stinks, I'm sure my neighbors won't want me to
let it drain into our common slab.

What is a good, self-contained composting unit that I can use on a
concrete slab?


Use a black plastic garbage can, cut or drills 1/4" holes in it about
12" from the bottom( this is for a leachate catch) and then through
out the rest of the can. And then only add cut up newspaper, lawn
clippings, kitchen waste ect. DO NOT place meat scraps, butter, salid
dressings ect in it. Place the can where the sun can hit it, and turn
it over by hand once o rtwice a month. With a tight lid on it it will
keep the rain and animals out of it. What ever moisture in it will
come from the compost it self. The smell should not be to bad then. Or
you could by one of those green composers at a store that looks like a
barrel placed on a stand.


doofy 30-07-2007 10:02 PM

composters and proximity to plants
 
vert20 wrote:

Use a black plastic garbage can, cut or drills 1/4" holes in it about
12" from the bottom( this is for a leachate catch) and then through
out the rest of the can.



Let me make sure I understand by paraphrasing:

You mean, drill holes on up the rest of the can, but not going below 12"
from the ground?

Jan Flora 31-07-2007 08:25 AM

composters and proximity to plants
 
In article ,
doofy wrote:

I'm about to put in a patio garden. I live in a townhouse. If I put a
composter in the small space I've got, will this be a disease source for
the plants I'll have there? What do I do with the "tea" from the bottom
of the composter? If it stinks, I'm sure my neighbors won't want me to
let it drain into our common slab.

What is a good, self-contained composting unit that I can use on a
concrete slab?


What do you want to compost? Kitchen waste? You can do vermiculture
in a big Rubbermaid tub or something similar. (A worm bin.) No smell,
no fuss. And worms love coffee grounds.

A healthy compost pile or bin is NOT a disease source for plants.
But don't compost diseased plants either.

Look he http://www.plantea.com/moretips.htm My friend, Marion Owen,
has a list of 163 things you can compost. I don't know if she's got
directions for urban, small space composting on her site, but a Google
for urban composting would probably find you lots of cool info.

I'm not sure what a townhouse is. I've been in a condo once.
I think they're probably similar. Small decks/patios and neighbors
elbow to jowl. (Sorry, my rural bias is showing.)

HTH,

Jan in Alaska

vert20 31-07-2007 01:44 PM

composters and proximity to plants
 
On Jul 30, 5:02 pm, doofy wrote:
vert20 wrote:
Use a black plastic garbage can, cut or drills 1/4" holes in it about
12" from the bottom( this is for a leachate catch) and then through
out the rest of the can.


Let me make sure I understand by paraphrasing:

You mean, drill holes on up the rest of the can, but not going below 12"
from the ground?


Yes


Jim Kingdon 31-07-2007 03:06 PM

composters and proximity to plants
 
What do I do with the "tea" from the bottom of the composter?

Dilute with water and fertilize your plants with it. Leachate isn't
as high quality a fertilizer as brewed compost tea (maybe "compost
beer" would be a better term for the brewed stuff, but tea is what
they call it) or compost itself, but as long as you don't
overconcentrate the leachate, it won't hurt the plants.

Some compost bins (for example the worm composter at
http://www.happydranch.com/canoworms.html ) have spigots at the bottom
to drain off the leachate.

If it stinks, I'm sure my neighbors won't want me to let it drain into
our common slab.


Most composting involves some odor, although it should be possible to
keep it modest enough that it isn't a problem. Putting your leachate
somewhere other than the slab probably would be a good plan.

doofy 31-07-2007 04:06 PM

composters and proximity to plants
 
Jan Flora wrote:

I'm not sure what a townhouse is. I've been in a condo once.
I think they're probably similar. Small decks/patios and neighbors
elbow to jowl. (Sorry, my rural bias is showing.)


A townhouse is a two story condo, essentially.

I'm angling towards eventually buying some land in Mississippi where my
family is. can't afford anything here in the San Francisco Bay Area.

Jan Flora 03-08-2007 09:52 PM

composters and proximity to plants
 
In article ,
doofy wrote:

Jan Flora wrote:

I'm not sure what a townhouse is. I've been in a condo once.
I think they're probably similar. Small decks/patios and neighbors
elbow to jowl. (Sorry, my rural bias is showing.)


A townhouse is a two story condo, essentially.

I'm angling towards eventually buying some land in Mississippi where my
family is. can't afford anything here in the San Francisco Bay Area.


We were born & raised in the Bay Area. My little brother didn't
buy a house soon enough. He's out in the San Joaquin now, where
he could afford to buy an acre and build a house.

The older brother bought his land, cheap, in the early '70's
and built a huge house out of materials he salvaged from
demolition jobs. (My dad was a demolition contractor.)
He's been turning down *big* money for that house for
30 years now. (It took us three kids seven years to build
that house. All three of us work/worked the building trades.)

Land in Mississippi sounds just right. You'll be able to
afford to buy enough to have some elbow room and enough
for a nice, big garden : )

Jan in Alaska

PS: Yes, you can grow adzuki beans in the Bay Area and you
can probably plant now and have plenty of time for them.

I'm on the six weeks until hard frost count down. I'm going
to plant some beet seeds today and see if they'll make it,
with a small hoop house/row cover later on.


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