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[email protected] 03-10-2007 10:56 AM

celeriac
 
I bought a celeriac bulb the other day, it had the celery stick and
leaves still attached. They are very very green and wilted, but I
thought I might be able to put them in stews and soups. I've frozen
them. But then I wondered, are they safe? Could they be poisonious.


Jim Kingdon 03-10-2007 07:51 PM

celeriac
 
I bought a celeriac bulb the other day, it had the celery stick and
leaves still attached. They are very very green and wilted, but I
thought I might be able to put them in stews and soups. I've frozen
them. But then I wondered, are they safe? Could they be poisonious.


No worries about poisonous, and I don't think there are big issues
with flavor/bitterness/etc. At least one of my seed catalogs lists
their celeriac as "celery/celeriac".

[email protected] 03-10-2007 10:43 PM

celeriac
 
On Oct 3, 7:51 pm, Jim Kingdon wrote:
I bought a celeriac bulb the other day, it had the celery stick and
leaves still attached. They are very very green and wilted, but I
thought I might be able to put them in stews and soups. I've frozen
them. But then I wondered, are they safe? Could they be poisonious.


No worries about poisonous, and I don't think there are big issues
with flavor/bitterness/etc. At least one of my seed catalogs lists
their celeriac as "celery/celeriac".



Thank you for your answer, I just wondered because these were VERY
green and I was thinking of clorafil in potatoes and the nearness in
species that celery/celeriac is to rubbarb. I am a very frugal woman
and try not to waste anything.


Henriette Kress 04-10-2007 08:13 AM

celeriac
 
wrote:

Jim Kingdon wrote:
I bought a celeriac bulb the other day, it had the celery stick and
leaves still attached. They are very very green and wilted, but I
thought I might be able to put them in stews and soups. I've frozen
them. But then I wondered, are they safe? Could they be poisonious.


No worries about poisonous, and I don't think there are big issues
with flavor/bitterness/etc. At least one of my seed catalogs lists
their celeriac as "celery/celeriac".


Thank you for your answer, I just wondered because these were VERY
green and I was thinking of clorafil in potatoes and the nearness in
species that celery/celeriac is to rubbarb. I am a very frugal woman
and try not to waste anything.


Chlorophyll is the green part of all green plants.

The toxic part of potatoes is called solanine, and found in a lot of Solanaceous
plants (for instance green potatoes).

Rhubarb contains lots of oxalic acid. Rhubarb is not related to celery - unless
you count the fact that they're both flowering plants. Celery wouldn't have a
clue what oxalic acid looks like, let alone produce some itself ...

The dark leaf you get off a celeriac bulb can be quite a bit stronger in taste
than the pampered sun-shaded light green celery stalks, but it's the same plant
- just a different growth form.
Like you get round and oblong tomatoes - same plant, different cultivars.

Use less of your dark green leaf, unless you want the whole dish to taste of
nothing but celery.

Henriette

--
Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland
Henriette's herbal homepage:
http://www.henriettesherbal.com

David Hare-Scott 04-10-2007 01:44 PM

celeriac
 

wrote in message
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Thank you for your answer, I just wondered because these were VERY
green and I was thinking of clorafil in potatoes and the nearness in
species that celery/celeriac is to rubbarb. I am a very frugal woman
and try not to waste anything.


Chlorophyll is not poisonous. The poison in potatoes is not chlorophyll.
You would have to be thinking in a strange way to be worried about eating a
vegetable because it was green.

Celery/celeriac is only distantly related to rhubarb and does not have the
poison that rhubarb has. Incidentally you would have to eat a vast amount
of rhubarb to poison yourself so don't lose sleep.

David



Jim Kingdon 04-10-2007 05:30 PM

celeriac
 
Incidentally you would have to eat a vast amount of rhubarb to poison
yourself so don't lose sleep.


If you are talking about rhubarb leaves (as opposed to stalks), I
wouldn't suggest being the guinea pig on this one. I've seen
calculations based on the oxalic acid content, but it seems that there
is at least one unidentified toxin other than oxalic acid in the
leaves (at least according to
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/002876.htm ).

Unfortunately, all the medical journal articles on rhubarb leaf
poisoning which I've run into are not online (not even abstracts) For
example, Death of a child from oxalic acid poisoning due to eating
rhubarb leaves.; Dtsch Med Wochenschr. (1964 Dec 11) 89:2379-81.

Billy[_4_] 05-10-2007 02:30 AM

celeriac
 
In article ,
Henriette Kress wrote:

wrote:

Jim Kingdon wrote:
I bought a celeriac bulb the other day, it had the celery stick and
leaves still attached. They are very very green and wilted, but I
thought I might be able to put them in stews and soups. I've frozen
them. But then I wondered, are they safe? Could they be poisonious.

No worries about poisonous, and I don't think there are big issues
with flavor/bitterness/etc. At least one of my seed catalogs lists
their celeriac as "celery/celeriac".


Thank you for your answer, I just wondered because these were VERY
green and I was thinking of clorafil in potatoes and the nearness in
species that celery/celeriac is to rubbarb. I am a very frugal woman
and try not to waste anything.


Chlorophyll is the green part of all green plants.

The toxic part of potatoes is called solanine, and found in a lot of
Solanaceous
plants (for instance green potatoes).

Rhubarb contains lots of oxalic acid. Rhubarb is not related to celery -
unless
you count the fact that they're both flowering plants. Celery wouldn't have a
clue what oxalic acid looks like, let alone produce some itself ...

The dark leaf you get off a celeriac bulb can be quite a bit stronger in
taste
than the pampered sun-shaded light green celery stalks, but it's the same
plant
- just a different growth form.
Like you get round and oblong tomatoes - same plant, different cultivars.

Use less of your dark green leaf, unless you want the whole dish to taste of
nothing but celery.

Henriette


With oxalic acid, like with many things, we are talking concentration.
Oxalic acid is generally added to store bought bread to keep it from
spoiling. You will also find it in sour grass, that so many of us
enjoyed as kids. Rhubarb leaves are the only example I can think of
where you may encounter toxic levels of oxalic acid.
--
FB - FFF

Billy

Get up, stand up, stand up for yor rights.
Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.
- Bob Marley

David Hare-Scott 05-10-2007 02:42 AM

celeriac
 

"Jim Kingdon" wrote in message
...
Incidentally you would have to eat a vast amount of rhubarb to poison
yourself so don't lose sleep.


If you are talking about rhubarb leaves (as opposed to stalks), I
wouldn't suggest being the guinea pig on this one. I've seen
calculations based on the oxalic acid content, but it seems that there
is at least one unidentified toxin other than oxalic acid in the
leaves (at least according to
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/002876.htm ).

Unfortunately, all the medical journal articles on rhubarb leaf
poisoning which I've run into are not online (not even abstracts) For
example, Death of a child from oxalic acid poisoning due to eating
rhubarb leaves.; Dtsch Med Wochenschr. (1964 Dec 11) 89:2379-81.


Yes one normally eats the stalks. Have you ever tasted rhubarb leaves?
That child would have been very weird or force fed.

David



[email protected] 05-10-2007 04:31 PM

celeriac
 
On Oct 5, 2:42 am, "David Hare-Scott" wrote:
"Jim Kingdon" wrote in message

...

Incidentally you would have to eat a vast amount of rhubarb to poison
yourself so don't lose sleep.


If you are talking about rhubarb leaves (as opposed to stalks), I
wouldn't suggest being the guinea pig on this one. I've seen
calculations based on the oxalic acid content, but it seems that there
is at least one unidentified toxin other than oxalic acid in the
leaves (at least according to
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...le/002876.htm).


Unfortunately, all the medical journal articles on rhubarb leaf
poisoning which I've run into are not online (not even abstracts) For
example, Death of a child from oxalic acid poisoning due to eating
rhubarb leaves.; Dtsch Med Wochenschr. (1964 Dec 11) 89:2379-81.


Yes one normally eats the stalks. Have you ever tasted rhubarb leaves?
That child would have been very weird or force fed.

David


I've never eaten rhubarb leaves, I HATE rhubarb!!!


doofy 06-10-2007 05:12 AM

celeriac
 
Billy wrote:
You will also find it in sour grass, that so many of us
enjoyed as kids.


Uh...nope, can't say as I did.

Billy[_4_] 06-10-2007 06:10 AM

celeriac
 
In article ,
doofy wrote:

Billy wrote:
You will also find it in sour grass, that so many of us
enjoyed as kids.


Uh...nope, can't say as I did.


My condolences.
--
FB - FFF

Billy

Get up, stand up, stand up for yor rights.
Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight.
- Bob Marley

doofy 07-10-2007 12:12 PM

celeriac
 
Billy wrote:
In article ,
doofy wrote:


Billy wrote:

You will also find it in sour grass, that so many of us
enjoyed as kids.


Uh...nope, can't say as I did.



My condolences.


That's those boats in Venice, right?

jonmiilton 28-02-2011 04:52 PM

Thank you for your answer, I am surprised, because these are very green, I want to clorafil species close to potato and celery / celery is rubbarb. I am a very frugal woman, try not to waste anything.


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