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And the hits just keep on coming. More on our pollenating friend.
Hard winter for honeybees Local beekeepers attribute unusual loss of hives to strange disorder, many other factors http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/articl...23/1033/NEWS01 -- Billy Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush |
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phorbin wrote: In article wildbilly-77E0F9.09144423022008@c-61-68-245- 199.per.connect.net.au, says... And the hits just keep on coming. More on our pollenating friend. Hard winter for honeybees Local beekeepers attribute unusual loss of hives to strange disorder, many other factors http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/articl...23/1033/NEWS01 http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=974 http://bushfarms.com/bees.htm -Thought you'd be interested. I am. Thanks. When I'm out, orchestrating my garden, I know that I have very little idea as to what is actually going on. When I see bees in the garden, I start to relax because I know mother nature will take it from there. So it appears that bee keepers don't have just Colony Collapse Disorder to worry about but a myriad of other nagging problems as well. Problems that are possible but not predictable. I am curious, though, in producing organic honey, how do you get a bee to go just to organic flowers? -- Billy Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush |
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Billy expounded:
I am curious, though, in producing organic honey, how do you get a bee to go just to organic flowers? You can manage your bees organically, but you really can't claim to provide organic honey. Unless you're in the middle of 8,000 square acres. -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** |
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phorbin expounded:
http://bushfarms.com/bees.htm Michael Bush has forgotten more about bees than most people ever know. -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** |
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Ann wrote: Billy expounded: I am curious, though, in producing organic honey, how do you get a bee to go just to organic flowers? You can manage your bees organically, but you really can't claim to provide organic honey. Unless you're in the middle of 8,000 square acres. What then does organic bee keeping mean, if the product isn't organic? Is 8,000 acres a legal definition or hyperbole? -- Billy Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush |
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says... phorbin expounded: http://bushfarms.com/bees.htm Michael Bush has forgotten more about bees than most people ever know. That was my thought. My wife (organic gardener and activist) was, if I recall correctly pointed to the site by the Canadian Green Party Agriculture Critic, who is an organic beekeeper. Do you keep bees? |
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In article wildbilly-DF7F20.17515223022008@c-61-68-245-
199.per.connect.net.au, says... In article , Ann wrote: Billy expounded: I am curious, though, in producing organic honey, how do you get a bee to go just to organic flowers? You can manage your bees organically, but you really can't claim to provide organic honey. Unless you're in the middle of 8,000 square acres. What then does organic bee keeping mean, if the product isn't organic? It starts with not forcing the bees to grow unnaturally large. The rest amounts to philosophy of maintenance and the substances used for maintenance. Is 8,000 acres a legal definition or hyperbole? It's not hyperbole. Bees will travel substantial distances. |
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In article ,
phorbin wrote: In article wildbilly-DF7F20.17515223022008@c-61-68-245- 199.per.connect.net.au, says... In article , Ann wrote: Billy expounded: I am curious, though, in producing organic honey, how do you get a bee to go just to organic flowers? You can manage your bees organically, but you really can't claim to provide organic honey. Unless you're in the middle of 8,000 square acres. What then does organic bee keeping mean, if the product isn't organic? It starts with not forcing the bees to grow unnaturally large. The rest amounts to philosophy of maintenance and the substances used for maintenance. What is unnaturally large and what is the philosophy? Why do you respond to a question that you do not answer? Is 8,000 acres a legal definition or hyperbole? It's not hyperbole. Bees will travel substantial distances. What, you nitwit, is substantial? Do you mean 10,534.75 feet? I asked a specific question. Do you have a specific answer? Next time get your caca together before you respond, or don't respond if you don't know what the freak you're talking about. We are supposed to be adults here. I'm not your babysitter. Oh, I know you tried, now be quiet and try to look presentable. -- Billy Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush |
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Billy expounded:
What then does organic bee keeping mean, if the product isn't organic? Is 8,000 acres a legal definition or hyperbole? No, it's not hyperbole, Billy. That's the radius a honeybee will forage within. Organic beekeeping means putting nothing in the hive but the honeybee and comb and managing all of the pests/problems organically. -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** |
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phorbin expounded:
In article , says... phorbin expounded: http://bushfarms.com/bees.htm Michael Bush has forgotten more about bees than most people ever know. That was my thought. My wife (organic gardener and activist) was, if I recall correctly pointed to the site by the Canadian Green Party Agriculture Critic, who is an organic beekeeper. Do you keep bees? Yes, we do. We have three apiaries and right now have ten hives, but that will grow this season. We're 'backyard beekeepers', we do it for the enjoyment of it, we do sell honey, but it isn't a major portion of our income - heck, it'll take us years to pay back the investment in equipment! But it's lots of fun, and the learning is amazing. -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** |
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In article wildbilly-B9A4F7.22235423022008@c-61-68-245-
199.per.connect.net.au, says... In article , phorbin wrote: In article wildbilly-DF7F20.17515223022008@c-61-68-245- 199.per.connect.net.au, says... In article , Ann wrote: Billy expounded: I am curious, though, in producing organic honey, how do you get a bee to go just to organic flowers? You can manage your bees organically, but you really can't claim to provide organic honey. Unless you're in the middle of 8,000 square acres. What then does organic bee keeping mean, if the product isn't organic? It starts with not forcing the bees to grow unnaturally large. The rest amounts to philosophy of maintenance and the substances used for maintenance. What is unnaturally large and what is the philosophy? Why do you respond to a question that you do not answer? Is 8,000 acres a legal definition or hyperbole? It's not hyperbole. Bees will travel substantial distances. What, you nitwit, is substantial? Do you mean 10,534.75 feet? I asked a specific question. Do you have a specific answer? Next time get your caca together before you respond, or don't respond if you don't know what the freak you're talking about. We are supposed to be adults here. I'm not your babysitter. My memory was prompting 4 miles or more for long-range foraging (as the bee flies) depending on the investment-return to the hive. It was late in my day and I was fading quickly. Relevant numbers are published on the net within easy reach. Imperial metric converters are all over the place. So FWIW http://www.lasi.group.shef.ac.uk/pdf/brfuncecol2000.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forage_(honeybee) .... and if you don't like my answers, or you don't like my on-line persona your killfile is a button away. And to not put too fine a point on it, so's mine. We are as you say, "supposed to be adults here." Adults are polite. Oh, I know you tried, now be quiet and try to look presentable. |
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phorbin wrote: In article wildbilly-B9A4F7.22235423022008@c-61-68-245- 199.per.connect.net.au, says... In article , phorbin wrote: In article wildbilly-DF7F20.17515223022008@c-61-68-245- 199.per.connect.net.au, says... In article , Ann wrote: Billy expounded: I am curious, though, in producing organic honey, how do you get a bee to go just to organic flowers? You can manage your bees organically, but you really can't claim to provide organic honey. Unless you're in the middle of 8,000 square acres. What then does organic bee keeping mean, if the product isn't organic? It starts with not forcing the bees to grow unnaturally large. The rest amounts to philosophy of maintenance and the substances used for maintenance. What is unnaturally large and what is the philosophy? Why do you respond to a question that you do not answer? Is 8,000 acres a legal definition or hyperbole? It's not hyperbole. Bees will travel substantial distances. What, you nitwit, is substantial? Do you mean 10,534.75 feet? I asked a specific question. Do you have a specific answer? Next time get your caca together before you respond, or don't respond if you don't know what the freak you're talking about. We are supposed to be adults here. I'm not your babysitter. My memory was prompting 4 miles or more for long-range foraging (as the bee flies) depending on the investment-return to the hive. It was late in my day and I was fading quickly. I asked for specific information, not the way you felt about it or excuses. What was the question anyway? Do you remember or don't you read so good? Is 8,000 acres a legal definition (for the production of organic honey) or hyperbole? Relevant numbers are published on the net within easy reach. Imperial metric converters are all over the place. Did I ask about metric conversion? Do you have any idea what 10,534.75 feet represents? Try 3.22 km. Still nothing? So FWIW http://www.lasi.group.shef.ac.uk/pdf/brfuncecol2000.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forage_(honeybee) Question numero-two-o: What then does organic bee keeping mean, if the product isn't organic? Helloooo. ... and if you don't like my answers, or you don't like my on-line persona your killfile is a button away. And to not put too fine a point on it, so's mine. Oh, you felt I was disappointed with your your response? You are absolutely clairvoyant. Lastly, that was a persona? We are as you say, "supposed to be adults here." Adults are polite. Adults, Pollyanna, know when to talk and when to keep their mouths shut. Engage mind before letting the clutch out on your mouth. You didn't bring humor to the table. You didn't bring information to the table. You didn't address the questions that were asked. Oh, I know you tried, now be quiet and try to look presentable. -- Billy Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush |
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Ann wrote: Billy expounded: What then does organic bee keeping mean, if the product isn't organic? Is 8,000 acres a legal definition or hyperbole? No, it's not hyperbole, Billy. That's the radius a honeybee will forage within. Organic beekeeping means putting nothing in the hive but the honeybee and comb and managing all of the pests/problems organically. OK. I'll google my questions. -- Billy Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush |
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Billy expounded:
In article , Ann wrote: Billy expounded: What then does organic bee keeping mean, if the product isn't organic? Is 8,000 acres a legal definition or hyperbole? No, it's not hyperbole, Billy. That's the radius a honeybee will forage within. Organic beekeeping means putting nothing in the hive but the honeybee and comb and managing all of the pests/problems organically. OK. I'll google my questions. Hoping to find something to disprove me? Knock yourself out. I wonder if your googling will lead you here? http://www.beesource.com/pov/organic/nosb.htm Then again, I suppose that's totally discredited because I posted it. -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** |
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