Raised Bed Vegetable Planting
Hi all,
This is my first post on the forum so a big hello!!! I have a copule of quesitions and would appreciate some advice. 1. I have built a raised bed for Vegs, (2.4mx 1.2m x 0.3m) and have used treated timber. I have covered the sides of the timber with a plastic liner so none of the soil will be touching the timber itself. However, below the bed I have driven stakes into the original soil, which are also made of treated wood. Now, considering the new soil will be in contact with the old soil, will the preservatives from wood seep through from the soil below into the soil above? 2. I need to buy soil for the planter and was wondering what is best to get. My mate has just bought soil which is £40 a ton and it cost him £100 to fill his planter! (3m x 1.2m x 0.45m) Thanks in advice for any advice... |
Raised Bed Vegetable Planting
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Richard Price wrote: Hi all, This is my first post on the forum so a big hello!!! I have a copule of quesitions and would appreciate some advice. 1. I have built a raised bed for Vegs, (2.4mx 1.2m x 0.3m) and have used treated timber. I have covered the sides of the timber with a plastic liner so none of the soil will be touching the timber itself. However, below the bed I have driven stakes into the original soil, which are also made of treated wood. Now, considering the new soil will be in contact with the old soil, will the preservatives from wood seep through from the soil below into the soil above? Yes. As the soil on top dries out, moisture, carrying the wood preservative, will be wicked to the surface and to the roots of your plants. Producing poisonous foods isn't necessarily a bad thing. It all depends on how you feel about the people who will be eating from this patch. 2. I need to buy soil for the planter and was wondering what is best to get. My mate has just bought soil which is £40 a ton and it cost him £100 to fill his planter! (3m x 1.2m x 0.45m) 30% - 40% sand, 30% - 40% silt, and 20% - 30% clay, then thoroughly mix with as much compost and other organic matter as you can, plus manure, and bone meal. Of course all this is pointless from a consumers point of view, if your garden is poisoned. You could plant some nice ornamentals in your box though. Thanks in advice for any advice... -- Billy Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush |
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Raised Bed Vegetable Planting
g'day richard,
we always fill our beds with mushroom compost we can access direct from the farm nice and affordable makes a great medium. see our pic's on our site. as for the treated timber not sure? but for me i'd rather not have edging that treated timber. On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:04:37 +0000, Richard Price wrote: snipped With peace and brightest of blessings, len & bev -- "Be Content With What You Have And May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In A World That You May Not Understand." http://www.lensgarden.com.au/ |
Thanks for the advice.
I have now ordered some untreated wood and will construct another planter. Does anyone know what I can treat the wood with, that will not harm my veg? |
Raised Bed Vegetable Planting
On Feb 26, 12:22�am, Richard Price Richard.Price.
wrote: Thanks for the advice. I have now ordered some untreated wood and will construct another planter. Does anyone know what I can treat the wood with, that will not harm my veg? -- Richard Price Richard, Your best bet is to use redwood. It naturally resists rot and insects and will not harm your vegetables. It is pricy, though. |
Raised Bed Vegetable Planting
I've used plastic decking. While not very wide (6") it provides me a
separation between the paths and the beds. r/ www.locoworks.com wrote: On Feb 26, 12:22�am, Richard Price Richard.Price. wrote: Thanks for the advice. I have now ordered some untreated wood and will construct another planter. Does anyone know what I can treat the wood with, that will not harm my veg? -- Richard Price Richard, Your best bet is to use redwood. It naturally resists rot and insects and will not harm your vegetables. It is pricy, though. |
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, "www.locoworks.com" wrote: On Feb 26, 12:22?am, Richard Price Richard.Price. wrote: Thanks for the advice. I have now ordered some untreated wood and will construct another planter. Does anyone know what I can treat the wood with, that will not harm my veg? -- Richard Price Richard, Your best bet is to use redwood. It naturally resists rot and insects and will not harm your vegetables. It is pricy, though. If you can find old growth heartwood from a redwood tree, I would agree with loco BUT that is hard to find here in California, so your chance in the UK, I presume, would be much lower. The next time I repair my raised bed, I think I'll look into plasticized decking wood but check it out, it may leach undesired chemicals as well. Otherwise, the 2" x 12"s that I used for my box seem to be good for at least 10 years. Keep your construction simple in order to make any replacements simple. Bon appétit. -- Billy Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush |
Raised Bed Vegetable Planting
g'dau richard,
on one of our pages there are a couple of links to products made from lanolin/wool grease that are purported to be excellent, whether you can get them over there i can't say? there was another product also not sure the link maybe ther as well, but if not do a google on natural wood preservatives etc.,. over here they make a stand alone garden frame out of corrugated zincaluum same as water tanks are made from they are either round or oblong. saw one organic lady with deep raised beds she just got sheets of corrugated and used galvanised star picket in the corners to tie it all together, looked ok won't suit yuppies but hey it's functional and should the need arise too easy to replace a sheet. On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:22:31 +0000, Richard Price wrote: snipped With peace and brightest of blessings, len & bev -- "Be Content With What You Have And May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In A World That You May Not Understand." http://www.lensgarden.com.au/ |
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This should allow me to grow produce without the threat of harmful contaminants and will also save me having to buy more wood and make another planter! |
Raised Bed Vegetable Planting
Richard Price wrote:
www.locoworks.com;776263 Wrote: On Feb 26, 12:22�am, Richard Price Richard.Price. wrote:- Thanks for the advice. I have now ordered some untreated wood and will construct another planter. Does anyone know what I can treat the wood with, that will not harm my veg? -- Richard Price- Richard, Your best bet is to use redwood. It naturally resists rot and insects and will not harm your vegetables. It is pricy, though. Thanks for that. I've tried to get hold of redwood, such as western red cedar, but nobody seems to stock it in Wales. In Wales any North American wood would be as "exotic" as English walnut is in the US. Best bet would likely be to look for some synthetic lumber made from recycled plastics. In the US "Trex" is the best known brand. The stuff should pretty well be inert from the viewpoint of planting. There are numerous tropical hardwoods that will stand up for decades, the trouble is that I don't know of anyone who has used them for the purpose you intend and wouldn't guarantee that they don't leach substances that would harm the plants--they have some pretty powerful natural chemistry that keeps the bugs and fungi out. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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"Richard Price" wrote in message ... Thanks for the advice. I have now ordered some untreated wood and will construct another planter. Does anyone know what I can treat the wood with, that will not harm my veg? There are timbers that will last for many years in contact with the soil. There is no point in me naming names as the ones I know would be unavailable to you. Contact somebody in the building trade, timber merchant etc who knows their stuff. Here they are graded (1 to 4 AFAIK) I don't know if you would have the same grading but there must be something. The grade 4 stuff is used for fence posts, jetty pylons etc. Good fenceposts around here last 40 years without any chemical treatment. David |
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, Billy wrote: In article , "www.locoworks.com" wrote: On Feb 26, 12:22?am, Richard Price Richard.Price. wrote: Thanks for the advice. I have now ordered some untreated wood and will construct another planter. Does anyone know what I can treat the wood with, that will not harm my veg? -- Richard Price Richard, Your best bet is to use redwood. It naturally resists rot and insects and will not harm your vegetables. It is pricy, though. If you can find old growth heartwood from a redwood tree, I would agree with loco BUT that is hard to find here in California, so your chance in the UK, I presume, would be much lower. The next time I repair my raised bed, I think I'll look into plasticized decking wood but check it out, it may leach undesired chemicals as well. Otherwise, the 2" x 12"s that I used for my box seem to be good for at least 10 years. Keep your construction simple in order to make any replacements simple. Bon appétit. Some people use tires for raised beds. Contrary to popular belief, they are inert and do not poison the soil. And you can get them for free. They paint well if you are worried about looks. ;-) -- Peace, Om Remove underscore to validate gmails. "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." -- Mark Twain |
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"Omelet" wrote in message ... In article , Billy wrote: In article , "www.locoworks.com" wrote: On Feb 26, 12:22?am, Richard Price Richard.Price. wrote: Thanks for the advice. I have now ordered some untreated wood and will construct another planter. Does anyone know what I can treat the wood with, that will not harm my veg? -- Richard Price Richard, Your best bet is to use redwood. It naturally resists rot and insects and will not harm your vegetables. It is pricy, though. If you can find old growth heartwood from a redwood tree, I would agree with loco BUT that is hard to find here in California, so your chance in the UK, I presume, would be much lower. The next time I repair my raised bed, I think I'll look into plasticized decking wood but check it out, it may leach undesired chemicals as well. Otherwise, the 2" x 12"s that I used for my box seem to be good for at least 10 years. Keep your construction simple in order to make any replacements simple. Bon appétit. Some people use tires for raised beds. Contrary to popular belief, they are inert and do not poison the soil. And you can get them for free. They paint well if you are worried about looks. ;-) -- Peace, Om Remove underscore to validate gmails. "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." -- Mark Twain I'n going to try some of this. www.earthbox.com |
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"JC" wrote: Some people use tires for raised beds. Contrary to popular belief, they are inert and do not poison the soil. And you can get them for free. They paint well if you are worried about looks. ;-) I'n going to try some of this. www.earthbox.com Ok, but tires are free. g One of these years, I'd like to experiment with hydroponics. -- Peace, Om Remove underscore to validate gmails. "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." -- Mark Twain |
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"JC" wrote in message m... "Omelet" wrote in message ... In article , Billy wrote: In article , "www.locoworks.com" wrote: On Feb 26, 12:22?am, Richard Price Richard.Price. wrote: Thanks for the advice. I have now ordered some untreated wood and will construct another planter. Does anyone know what I can treat the wood with, that will not harm my veg? -- Richard Price Richard, Your best bet is to use redwood. It naturally resists rot and insects and will not harm your vegetables. It is pricy, though. If you can find old growth heartwood from a redwood tree, I would agree with loco BUT that is hard to find here in California, so your chance in the UK, I presume, would be much lower. The next time I repair my raised bed, I think I'll look into plasticized decking wood but check it out, it may leach undesired chemicals as well. Otherwise, the 2" x 12"s that I used for my box seem to be good for at least 10 years. Keep your construction simple in order to make any replacements simple. Bon appétit. Some people use tires for raised beds. Contrary to popular belief, they are inert and do not poison the soil. And you can get them for free. They paint well if you are worried about looks. ;-) -- Peace, Om Remove underscore to validate gmails. "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." -- Mark Twain I'n going to try some of this. www.earthbox.com try some of these instead http://www.seattleoil.com/Flyers/Earthbox.pdf rob |
Raised Bed Vegetable Planting
"George.com" wrote in message ... "JC" wrote in message m... "Omelet" wrote in message ... In article , Billy wrote: In article , "www.locoworks.com" wrote: On Feb 26, 12:22?am, Richard Price Richard.Price. wrote: Thanks for the advice. I have now ordered some untreated wood and will construct another planter. Does anyone know what I can treat the wood with, that will not harm my veg? -- Richard Price Richard, Your best bet is to use redwood. It naturally resists rot and insects and will not harm your vegetables. It is pricy, though. If you can find old growth heartwood from a redwood tree, I would agree with loco BUT that is hard to find here in California, so your chance in the UK, I presume, would be much lower. The next time I repair my raised bed, I think I'll look into plasticized decking wood but check it out, it may leach undesired chemicals as well. Otherwise, the 2" x 12"s that I used for my box seem to be good for at least 10 years. Keep your construction simple in order to make any replacements simple. Bon appétit. Some people use tires for raised beds. Contrary to popular belief, they are inert and do not poison the soil. And you can get them for free. They paint well if you are worried about looks. ;-) -- Peace, Om Remove underscore to validate gmails. "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." -- Mark Twain I'n going to try some of this. www.earthbox.com try some of these instead http://www.seattleoil.com/Flyers/Earthbox.pdf rob Hey, thanks for that. My idea was to try to figure out how to make these things instead of paying 50 bucks apiece for them. |
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On Mar 4, 5:37�am, "JC" wrote:
"George.com" wrote in message ... "JC" wrote in message om... "Omelet" wrote in message ... In article , Billy wrote: In article , �"www.locoworks.com" wrote: On Feb 26, 12:22?am, Richard Price Richard.Price. wrote: Thanks for the advice. I have now ordered some untreated wood and will construct another planter. Does anyone know what I can treat the wood with, that will not harm my veg? -- Richard Price Richard, � �Your best bet is to use redwood. �It naturally resists rot and insects and will not harm your vegetables. � It is pricy, though. If you can find old growth heartwood from a redwood tree, I would agree with loco BUT that is hard to find here in California, so your chance in the UK, I presume, would be much lower. The next time I repair my raised bed, I think I'll look into plasticized decking wood but check it out, it may leach undesired chemicals as well. Otherwise, the 2" x 12"s that I used for my box seem to be good for at least 10 years. Keep your construction simple in order to make any replacements simple. Bon app�tit. Some people use tires for raised beds. Contrary to popular belief, they are inert and do not poison the soil. And you can get them for free. They paint well if you are worried about looks. ;-) -- Peace, Om Remove underscore to validate gmails. "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � -- Mark Twain I'n going to try some of this. www.earthbox.com try some of these instead http://www.seattleoil.com/Flyers/Earthbox.pdf rob Hey, thanks for that. My idea was to try to figure out how to make these things instead of paying 50 bucks apiece for them.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If you live in a fairly densely populated area there may be a likely building being demolished. Often they will let you scavenge some lumber. I got ten eight-foot 2x12s just for the labor of hauling them away and then extracting the numerous nails in them. They are ugly, but they will weather out nicely and last for several years, while I keep my eyes open for other buildings. Good luck in the hunt! |
Raised Bed Vegetable Planting
"JC" wrote in message . .. "George.com" wrote in message ... "JC" wrote in message m... "Omelet" wrote in message ... In article , Billy wrote: In article , "www.locoworks.com" wrote: On Feb 26, 12:22?am, Richard Price Richard.Price. wrote: Thanks for the advice. I have now ordered some untreated wood and will construct another planter. Does anyone know what I can treat the wood with, that will not harm my veg? -- Richard Price Richard, Your best bet is to use redwood. It naturally resists rot and insects and will not harm your vegetables. It is pricy, though. If you can find old growth heartwood from a redwood tree, I would agree with loco BUT that is hard to find here in California, so your chance in the UK, I presume, would be much lower. The next time I repair my raised bed, I think I'll look into plasticized decking wood but check it out, it may leach undesired chemicals as well. Otherwise, the 2" x 12"s that I used for my box seem to be good for at least 10 years. Keep your construction simple in order to make any replacements simple. Bon appétit. Some people use tires for raised beds. Contrary to popular belief, they are inert and do not poison the soil. And you can get them for free. They paint well if you are worried about looks. ;-) -- Peace, Om Remove underscore to validate gmails. "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." -- Mark Twain I'n going to try some of this. www.earthbox.com try some of these instead http://www.seattleoil.com/Flyers/Earthbox.pdf rob Hey, thanks for that. My idea was to try to figure out how to make these things instead of paying 50 bucks apiece for them. once you have figured out the tools you need, and the ones you only have, & have nutted out how to put the things together they are actually very easy to make up. Getting the first done is the big bit. I scored some old dumper 2x10 scaffold planks today from a scaffold outfit. A phoned around a few & found one who had refuse. They were happy to pass it on. Thats the raised garden in the polytunnel sorted. rob |
Just a thought...
I recently build 3 huge raised borders, each at 1.3x15 metres. I constructed the side out of any wood I could find, avoiding wood that had been treated. I mainly used palettes and old floorboards for the sides and insulated them from the soil using rolls dampcoarse plastic. Costs about £6 per roll of about 50 foot - the stuff is designed to keep out moisture...not totally green, but I will find many uses for it, should I change the design of my allotment in the future. Tough stuff! All the best, James |
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