why?

Why what?

Pat

--
Pat Meadows


-----
I have been an avid gardener since childhood. I am also very much of a tekkie.
That being said, I think a good scrapbook, leaves pressed on pages, of
favorites, etc. would make a great gardening record.

Technology, to me, takes away the charm of keeping a garden record. The
charm is in the gardening process -- not in the technology. But that's me.

../z.

On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 13:12:32 +1300, Kelvyn
wrote:

In article, says...
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 19:05:38 +1300, Kelvyn
wrote:

Pat,
Sorry you could not get to the 'monsoon' download website, perhaps if i can find
it
i could email it to you. It had one feature which i liked....an option to
draw/design a garden (guess you can do this with MSpaint, but i dont know how!!)
I often forget exactly from one season to the next exactly where things were
planted.
I have also got the evaluation copy of my garden journal and like it very much.
However ,i live in new zealand and the exchange rate with the $US makes shareware
very expensive.

I think Monsoon is gone, dead.

But if anyone *is* able to find the site, please do it post
it here or email it to me.

Thanks.

Pat
--
Pat Meadows
CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY
United States: http://www.stopthehunger.com/
International: http://www.thehungersite.com/

In article ,
(Pat Meadows) wrote:

I'm interested in garden record-keeping software - freeware
or reasonably-priced shareware.

Windows Notepad. The F5 key inserts date and time and then you just type
free text. Free with Windows

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com

I'm interested in garden record-keeping software - freeware
or reasonably-priced shareware.

Windows Notepad. The F5 key inserts date and time and then you just type
free text. Free with Windows

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com

On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 22:53 +0000 (GMT),
(Steve Harris) wrote:

In article ,
(Pat Meadows) wrote:

I'm interested in garden record-keeping software - freeware
or reasonably-priced shareware.

Windows Notepad. The F5 key inserts date and time and then you just type
free text. Free with Windows

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com

Yet another joker.

Thank you for this so very helpful and valuable
information...

As you undoubtedly don't know, I'm a battle-scarred Usenet
veteran, having been on Usenet for about 15 years (since
before it was open to anyone but the US government,
universities, and the US military) but I can understand why
so many people are turned off by the smart-ass remarks that
- unfortunately - seem to get served up to newbies
regularly.

This annoys me, because I feel that Usenet is a valuable
resources - it has been for me - and I'm annoyed at anything
that contributes to its destruction: the spammers, the
trolls, and the perennial smart-alecks.

Pat
--
Pat Meadows
CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY
United States: http://www.stopthehunger.com/
International: http://www.thehungersite.com/

Pat Meadows wrote:

Yet another joker.

Hey, it's stuff like this that keeps my killfile from being boring. He
posted the same response again.

I'm not that battle-scarred, unless writing a printer "wedge" to insert
CRLF delays on a VIC-20 counts.

Depending on what you want to track, Excel works pretty well. I keep a
yearly garlic ledger in a spreadsheet so I can follow yields, survival,
etc.

shameless plug
To be found on my personal web page, in the .sig below.
Warning: Only OCD types need look.
/shameless plug

As for your original question, pretty much lost in Usenet bit rot: what
kind of record keeping are you concerned with? There are a lot of cheep
shareware database apps if you want to emulate a card file, and I've seen
mention of CAD software for the landscaping types.

I keep a yearly Turbocad drawing of my garden with associated text file, so
the drawing doesn't get too cluttered. Here's a snippet:
************************************************** ***********************
8/24:
B8: Pole Beans, "Romano" (own) 3 teepees g 6/2 poor germ; re-planted
w/sprouting seeds 6/15
B9: Blue potatoes, 36 sets (own; sprouting) g.5/31
Bush Bean Wide row "A" AKA future garlic bed 4' wide; 6X6 inches if not
otherwise noted:
C0: "Black Valentine" beans (own) 24' 5/28
Virtually no germ (too cold); re-pl w/D3 + D4
C1: "Sayamusume" Edible soybeans (Territorial) 1'X1' -8' 5/28
C2: "Vermont Cranberry" (own) 12' 5/29 g 6/10
C3: "Bright Lights" chard 4' X 8' 6/4 g.6/15
C4: leek "American Flag" own pl + 4 "Australian Brown" onion (own pl)6/4
************************************************** **
And to give the Devil Her due, I do have a couple of text files chronicling
things like garlic varieties, when and where I got them, descriptions of
how they do here, etc.

"I'm Gary, and I'm a gardener."
Group: "Hi, Gary..."

Cabin fever, big time!


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1200' elevation. NY WO G

"Pat Meadows" wrote in message

As you undoubtedly don't know, I'm a battle-scarred Usenet
veteran, having been on Usenet for about 15 years

Hey, someone else who knows what Unix language is! I used to laugh at my
friends, all of whom I converted over to the Internet, when they used that
sissified Windows to get from one place to the other!! Now, no one even
knows what I'm talking about if I mention IRC's or telnetting.

Back to gardening, however, I downloaded "My Garden Journal" after reading
your post on it, and I think it is a great little electronic "farmer's
almanac" for me to use! I am not sophisticated enough to start scheduling
out my planting times. Maybe after a year of documenting my results in the
journal, I can use my successes and failures to plan for nex tyear! I've
been gardening for some time, but have never been organized enough to
document any of what I do. Which is unfortunate, because sometimes I have
planted some really wonderful plants, and sometimes some real losers, but I
can never recall which was which!

On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:56:34 -0800, "DH"
wrote:

Back to gardening, however, I downloaded "My Garden Journal" after reading
your post on it, and I think it is a great little electronic "farmer's
almanac" for me to use! I am not sophisticated enough to start scheduling
out my planting times. Maybe after a year of documenting my results in the
journal, I can use my successes and failures to plan for nex tyear! I've
been gardening for some time, but have never been organized enough to
document any of what I do. Which is unfortunate, because sometimes I have
planted some really wonderful plants, and sometimes some real losers, but I
can never recall which was which!

That's the thing... plus I get confused and forget things if
I don't schedule them in SOME manner.

Yes, MyGardenJournal is a great little electronic 'farmer's
almanac' - that's a very good way to describe it.

Pat

--
Pat Meadows
CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY
United States: http://www.stopthehunger.com/
International: http://www.thehungersite.com/

"DH" wrote in message
...
...I downloaded "My Garden Journal" after reading
your post on it, and I think it is a great little electronic "farmer's
almanac" for me to use! I am not sophisticated enough to start
scheduling
out my planting times. Maybe after a year of documenting my results
in the
journal, I can use my successes and failures to plan for nex tyear!
I've
been gardening for some time, but have never been organized enough to
document any of what I do. Which is unfortunate, because sometimes I
have
planted some really wonderful plants, and sometimes some real losers,
but I
can never recall which was which!


I also downloaded both Journals. The garden software has come a long
way since the last time looked at it. The only problem I see with
SeedPlanner is the portion that's online. Since canceling broadband and
going back to using a modem again it looks like it might be a bit
low. -Olin.

I guess you use paper and pencil instead of a calculator, or do you use an
abacus yet?

NS9G wrote:

"Pat Meadows" wrote in message
...

I'm interested in garden record-keeping software - freeware
or reasonably-priced shareware.

I've downloaded the following two programs and will be
trying them out over the weekend:

Seedplanner - http://www.seedplanner.com

MyGardenJournal - http://www.mygardenjournal.com

Does anyone use either of these, and have comments to make?

Alternately, does anyone have recommendations for other
programs?

Might I suggest a pencil and notebook for your garden record keeping? You
can carry it around with you. Windows won't cause it to crash and you will
be much healthier if you get up from the computer and go out where the
garden is.
--
73 de Bob NS9G

Since you like paper and pencil so much why don't you use that instead of your
computer to make your posts to the newsgroup. Just snail mail it to:

IamadipshitbecauseIlike
tospewshitwhenIdon'tknowthe
answer. CA 90210


to

NS9G wrote:

"Pat Meadows" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:06:45 GMT, "NS9G"
wrote:



Might I suggest a pencil and notebook for your garden record keeping?
You
can carry it around with you. Windows won't cause it to crash and you
will
be much healthier if you get up from the computer and go out where the
garden is.

Oddly enough, I am aware of the uses of pencil and paper.

I prefer the increased functionality of a software program
which is why I asked (specifically) about a program...

[I know it's not cool to announce that you're plonking
someone but very, very occasionally I just cannot resist...]

Into my twit-file you go... I imagine you'll enjoy the
company of others there with a similar bent of mind.

Pat
--
Pat Meadows

If I had realized what a nice person you are I wouldn't have bothered
replying in the first place.
But, since we are here, would someone please explain why a computer is more
functional than a pencil and notebook.
Is a computer more dependable?
Is a computer more accurate?
Is a computer less expensive?
Is a computer doing any actual gardening?
Is a notebook likely to crash and destroy all your records?

I think perhaps the effort to meld two entirely different hobbies might
prove counterproductive.
--
73 de Bob NS9G

I never looked at the software they are talking about, but I think it will
give more info then just the date. Like maybe keeping track from year to
year of how long from planting till harvest, and by just doing a search pull
up the info. I imagine some software you could even put in the amount of
rainfall, average temp ect...I know commercial farmers do it that way.

An example would be lets say you had the best sweet corn ever this
year.....how would you duplicate that next year without data. The software
could say when the ears formed we had 3 inches of rain that week, 1 the
next, then 2 weeks of no rain ect....Say you side dressed the corn with
fertilizer a week before the tassels formed and the ears were small that
year, you could pull up the previous years and see what you did different
that year. Otherwise you may blame the weather. These were just examples I
have no idea how much rain would be good for corn nor do I know when its a
good time to fertilize. But once you have "DATA" from previous years that
you can pull up in a few seconds you will have a better idea of what works
and what don't.



Steve Harris wrote:

I'm interested in garden record-keeping software - freeware
or reasonably-priced shareware.

Windows Notepad. The F5 key inserts date and time and then you just type
free text. Free with Windows

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com

Xref: news7 rec.gardens.edible:51284


"Brian" wrote in message
...
I guess you use paper and pencil instead of a calculator, or do you use an
abacus yet?

NS9G wrote:

"Pat Meadows" wrote in message
...

I'm interested in garden record-keeping software - freeware
or reasonably-priced shareware.

I've downloaded the following two programs and will be
trying them out over the weekend:

Seedplanner - http://www.seedplanner.com

MyGardenJournal - http://www.mygardenjournal.com

Does anyone use either of these, and have comments to make?

Alternately, does anyone have recommendations for other
programs?

Might I suggest a pencil and notebook for your garden record keeping?
You
can carry it around with you. Windows won't cause it to crash and you
will
be much healthier if you get up from the computer and go out where the
garden is.


I didn't sleep through math class. I do most figuring in my head. Sorry to
say I never learned the abacus but I did learn to not top post.

--
73 de Bob NS9G

NS9G wrote:

"Brian" wrote in message
...
I guess you use paper and pencil instead of a calculator, or do you use an
abacus yet?

NS9G wrote:

"Pat Meadows" wrote in message
...

I'm interested in garden record-keeping software - freeware
or reasonably-priced shareware.

I've downloaded the following two programs and will be
trying them out over the weekend:

Seedplanner - http://www.seedplanner.com

MyGardenJournal - http://www.mygardenjournal.com

Does anyone use either of these, and have comments to make?

Alternately, does anyone have recommendations for other
programs?

Might I suggest a pencil and notebook for your garden record keeping?
You
can carry it around with you. Windows won't cause it to crash and you
will
be much healthier if you get up from the computer and go out where the
garden is.

I didn't sleep through math class. I do most figuring in my head. Sorry to
say I never learned the abacus but I did learn to not top post.

--
73 de Bob NS9G

Is this better for you ? Sorry some other group I visit like top posting so they
don't have to scroll to the bottom of every post not trimmed.

Quick what is 27.4% of 6,894,577

The problem I have with you is if you don't have an answer...don't answer. Do
you condem people that shop with a computer, do their banking and check writing
with a computer. I mean why use microsoft word when you can use a typewriter. If
you would follow your own advice you never would have got one of dem dar new
fangled computers.

Funny thread :-)

/z.