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Old 21-02-2003, 04:51 PM
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I'm interested in garden record-keeping software - freeware
or reasonably-priced shareware.

I've downloaded the following two programs and will be
trying them out over the weekend:

Seedplanner - http://www.seedplanner.com

MyGardenJournal - http://www.mygardenjournal.com

Does anyone use either of these, and have comments to make?

Alternately, does anyone have recommendations for other
programs?

Thanks.

Pat Meadows
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Old 22-02-2003, 03:03 PM
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"Pat Meadows" wrote in message
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I'm interested in garden record-keeping software - freeware
or reasonably-priced shareware.

I've downloaded the following two programs and will be
trying them out over the weekend:

Seedplanner - http://www.seedplanner.com

MyGardenJournal - http://www.mygardenjournal.com

Does anyone use either of these, and have comments to make?

Alternately, does anyone have recommendations for other
programs?

Might I suggest a pencil and notebook for your garden record keeping? You
can carry it around with you. Windows won't cause it to crash and you will
be much healthier if you get up from the computer and go out where the
garden is.
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Old 22-02-2003, 03:39 PM
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Might I suggest a pencil and notebook for your garden record keeping? You
can carry it around with you.


Exactly!

/z.
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Old 22-02-2003, 04:51 PM
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On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:06:45 GMT, "NS9G"
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Might I suggest a pencil and notebook for your garden record keeping? You
can carry it around with you. Windows won't cause it to crash and you will
be much healthier if you get up from the computer and go out where the
garden is.


Oddly enough, I am aware of the uses of pencil and paper.

I prefer the increased functionality of a software program
which is why I asked (specifically) about a program...

[I know it's not cool to announce that you're plonking
someone but very, very occasionally I just cannot resist...]

Into my twit-file you go... I imagine you'll enjoy the
company of others there with a similar bent of mind.

Pat
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Old 22-02-2003, 04:51 PM
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On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 19:05:38 +1300, Kelvyn
wrote:

In article, says...
why?

I found freeware download called 'monsoon' but lost the address....will look for
it again....or you could try 'google' search under 'garden journals' etc
kelvyn.


Kelvyn, thanks. I found it too, but the link to download it
is broken.

I even approached it from several different websites and
always wound up with an unrelated site. My husband looked
at it too (to be sure I wasn't making some mistake) and it's
just not there.....

I did eventually find two shareware programs and downloaded
them for evaluation purposes:

http://www.mygardenjournal.com

http://www.seedplanner.com

I played with SeedPlanner enough to know that it will do the
job I want done (it's an impressive program, IMHO), and have
now registered it ($30) and am awaiting my 'key' to unlock
it (the evaluation version doesn't have full functionality).

I *may* treat myself to MyGardenJournal also, it's a nice
little program - the two programs do different things and
are complementary.

MyGardenJournal has a 30-day evaluation period with full
functionality, so I'll have a while to see if I want it
enough to justify the modest cost ($20).

Cheers,
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Old 22-02-2003, 04:51 PM
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On 22 Feb 2003 03:05:02 GMT, (Zphysics1)
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why?


Why what?

Pat

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Old 22-02-2003, 05:27 PM
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"Pat Meadows" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:06:45 GMT, "NS9G"
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Might I suggest a pencil and notebook for your garden record keeping?

You
can carry it around with you. Windows won't cause it to crash and you

will
be much healthier if you get up from the computer and go out where the
garden is.


Oddly enough, I am aware of the uses of pencil and paper.

I prefer the increased functionality of a software program
which is why I asked (specifically) about a program...

[I know it's not cool to announce that you're plonking
someone but very, very occasionally I just cannot resist...]

Into my twit-file you go... I imagine you'll enjoy the
company of others there with a similar bent of mind.

Pat
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If I had realized what a nice person you are I wouldn't have bothered
replying in the first place.
But, since we are here, would someone please explain why a computer is more
functional than a pencil and notebook.
Is a computer more dependable?
Is a computer more accurate?
Is a computer less expensive?
Is a computer doing any actual gardening?
Is a notebook likely to crash and destroy all your records?

I think perhaps the effort to meld two entirely different hobbies might
prove counterproductive.
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Old 22-02-2003, 05:39 PM
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"NS9G" wrote:


"Pat Meadows" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:06:45 GMT, "NS9G"
wrote:



Might I suggest a pencil and notebook for your garden record keeping?

You
can carry it around with you. Windows won't cause it to crash and you

will
be much healthier if you get up from the computer and go out where the
garden is.


Oddly enough, I am aware of the uses of pencil and paper.

I prefer the increased functionality of a software program
which is why I asked (specifically) about a program...

[I know it's not cool to announce that you're plonking
someone but very, very occasionally I just cannot resist...]

Into my twit-file you go... I imagine you'll enjoy the
company of others there with a similar bent of mind.

Pat
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If I had realized what a nice person you are I wouldn't have bothered
replying in the first place.
But, since we are here, would someone please explain why a computer is more
functional than a pencil and notebook.
Is a computer more dependable?

A notebook is much easier to loose than a computer. The dog is not
apt to chew up or bury the computer.

Is a computer more accurate?

GIGO for either one.

Is a computer less expensive?

If you already won a computer and have to buy a notebook and pencil.

Is a computer doing any actual gardening?

Have you got a notebook that weeds the garden? Would love to have one
of those.

Is a notebook likely to crash and destroy all your records?

See answer to the first question. BTW, never heard of backup.

I think perhaps the effort to meld two entirely different hobbies might
prove counterproductive.



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Old 22-02-2003, 06:51 PM
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The post advocating computer gardening software would have a very distinct
advantage over the pencil and paper method in my opinion. With a computer,
one can plot the numerous charts and graphs with perfect symmetry with many
more colors than practically available using colored pencils, crayons and
magic markers.
The entire industry evolves around all the ridiculous, simple-minded
computer generated worthless and non-productive, totally wasteful paper
trails so why shouldn't some intelligent computer savvy individual with the
first attempt at gardening incorporate this to gardening also?
Imagine how impressive it would be to show the various differently colored
charts and graphs to another gardener that had only a sheet of paper using a
graphite pencil.
Why does everyone seem to be so hesitant to incorporate the latest readily
available technology?




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Old 22-02-2003, 06:51 PM
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On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 16:22:46 GMT, "NS9G" wrote in
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If I had realized what a nice person you are I wouldn't have bothered
replying in the first place.
But, since we are here, would someone please explain why a computer is more
functional than a pencil and notebook.
Is a computer more dependable?
Is a computer more accurate?
Is a computer less expensive?
Is a computer doing any actual gardening?
Is a notebook likely to crash and destroy all your records?

I think perhaps the effort to meld two entirely different hobbies might
prove counterproductive.


Computers are more than a hobby to me. I know few people have my circumstances,
but...

This is not a flame; I am merely answering your question.

I have multiple sclerosis and am in a wheelchair because my legs don't work.
Fine muscle control in my right hand is gone (I am right handed), so I have
great difficulty writing and writing legibly is impossible with my left hand.
The only ways I have of keeping records a

1) have someone write for me or
2) use the computer to make my notes.

My point is that you have no idea why someone asks a particular question on
usenet unless they care to add the reason with the question. If you know the
answer to the question then why not give it else remain silent?

Computers have two purposes:

1) number crunching
2) the rapid storage and retrieval of information.

They have the added benefit of storing the information in a compact, readily
accessible area as well as making the information easy to find. Why should
someone not use their computer for record keeping of their garden?

You did ask.

And for those who are curious but too shy to ask: my vegetable gardens (two)
are in long, narrow beds; raised about two feet with patio stones around them
making everything accessible to me from the wheelchair.
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On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 16:22:46 GMT, "NS9G"
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If I had realized what a nice person you are I wouldn't have bothered
replying in the first place.


Nice person, me? It was *you* who gave me a snotty,
smart-ass answer to a legitimate and polite question.

If you want to play nice, I am happy enough to do that.

But, since we are here, would someone please explain why a computer is more
functional than a pencil and notebook.
Is a computer more dependable?
Is a computer more accurate?
Is a computer less expensive?
Is a computer doing any actual gardening?
Is a notebook likely to crash and destroy all your records?

I think perhaps the effort to meld two entirely different hobbies might
prove counterproductive.


Well, the fact that there are programs specifically written
for this purpose would tend to disprove your thoughts here.

For the records I wish to keep, the use of a software
program will enable me to cut the time required for record-
keeping down by about 90%.

I start my own seeds. This year I will be starting 60 or
more types of seeds, many with succession plantings.

I can make a timetable for each planting - figuring back
from the last frost date - and for each subsequent planting.
Maybe we're talking 300 plantings of seeds in all. I'll
start lettuce seeds, for example, each week for about four
months. This is a fairly massive job done by hand. It will
be a cinch with SeedPlanner (the program I just bought).

There is other information I will record: I'd like to
record how each variety grew for me, whether it's worth
growing again, what the yield was, if it had any particular
problems I might be able to head off the next time I try it,
whether I liked it or not.

For example, I'm trying five varieties of Chinese cabbage
this year - there's no way I'll remember the differences
between them in future years if I don't record it somehow.

There is nothing at all that any computer can do that I
cannot do - given enough time - with a pencil, paper, and
calculator. (A lifetime of time might be required, though.)

But I prefer to spend my time in more productive ways than
(SLOWLY) doing the things a software program can do in a
matter of seconds. Maybe it would take me 40 hours of
actual work or thereabouts to come up with a complete garden
plan for this year manually. I will be able to do it using
SeedPlanner.com in about two hours.

I also don't enjoy doing the same thing manually over and
over again for ... say....60 or 70 times. It's only
interesting on the first repetition. Then it's sheer
slogging through boring work. The computer will relieve me
of this boring repetitive stuff.

Pat


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On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 17:09:41 GMT, "Andy N"
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The post advocating computer gardening software would have a very distinct
advantage over the pencil and paper method in my opinion. With a computer,
one can plot the numerous charts and graphs with perfect symmetry with many
more colors than practically available using colored pencils, crayons and
magic markers.
The entire industry evolves around all the ridiculous, simple-minded
computer generated worthless and non-productive, totally wasteful paper
trails so why shouldn't some intelligent computer savvy individual with the
first attempt at gardening incorporate this to gardening also?


In this particular case, it's far from my first attempt at
gardening. I've been gardening for about 30 years. But
this year, I decided that I wish to have the ease and
functionality of using a program specifically designed for
the purpose of keeping gardening records.

I want the time-saving it will give me, as well as the
increased functionality. My time and energy are limited by
health problems, and I don't enjoy doing the same task over
and over again manually in any case.

Imagine how impressive it would be to show the various differently colored
charts and graphs to another gardener that had only a sheet of paper using a
graphite pencil.


I'll likely not be showing them to anyone, but I'll enjoy
them myself!

Why does everyone seem to be so hesitant to incorporate the latest readily
available technology?


I don't know. I don't share that syndrome.

Pat
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I can appreciate the frustration you are apparently experiencing regarding
your post about gardening software.
I had an earlier post asking the advice of gardeners from this supposedly
gardening newsgroup about at what stage of maturity to harvest peas to be
used as a dish instead of just eating them out-of-the-garden raw.
All I got for responses was to harvest them when I decide to harvest them
and another post explaining how I should grow (snow peas) instead of
(shelling peas) because that is what he grew.
My earlier post about gardening software was to see how you would respond to
it and maybe you can with your influence, get this gardening group to
concentrate on matters regarding to gardening instead of the war on Iraq
etc.
I have been gardening for more than 50 years, the first 10 being totally
involuntary.
Additionally my mention of you being a computer savvy first time gardener
was not specifically intended for you and that is why it was posted as a
(group reply).


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