In article , Charlie wrote:

On Mon, 05 May 2008 08:02:20 -0700, Billy wrote:

In article
,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

Charlie wrote in message

Oh dear me......carp is our absolutlyist favoritist fish for plate!!

Charlie, you are not going to believe this, but here in Aus, they are used
as a fertiliser. And it is called (wait for it) 'Charlie Carp':
http://www.charliecarp.com/

This should be good;-))

Har har, says I. I can hear you snickerin' all the way out here in
the sticks, Mister Billy. You too, Fran.

The possibilities are numerous, aren't they. Ya'll should be gettin'
some good mileage outta this one.......at poor old CharlieCarp's
expense!

Methinks I got nuttin' here, absotootly nuttin.

I'm off to help younger son dig and set posts for a fence.

Harrumph......ya'll go right on ahead and have yer fun, sorry suckers
ya be. I'll be back!!!

Charlie

You're not gonna' carp at us for havin' a wee bit o' foon, are ye?
Like they say, carp' diem.:-))
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

yeah yeah yeah.....similar to the old put a carp on a cedar plank and
bake for thirty minutes then toss the carp and eat the plank. ;-)

Seriously, if you ever had a proper carp, you would sing a different
song. :-)

Betcha never ate gar either. Easy and better'n you would think.

Care
Charlie

Hehehehe.... seriously, though, I'll eat almost anything, and if I could
find someone to fix me a nice carp, I'd eat it right down. Gar too. :-)

Jan Flora wrote:
�Sheldon wrote:
Jan Flora wrote:

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch
the rainwater from the downspouts on your house.

Why would food grade drums be necessary for catching rain water
running off a non food grade roof... to do what... pour on the non
food grade ground. �Am I missing something, or why wouldn't an
ordinary plastic trash can be suitable?

You can buy low quality for like $10-$15 but they will decay from UV
exposure and probably crack from freezing temps.

I have two of these, excellent quality: �http://tinyurl.com/79bqf

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...ductId=46994-1....
92/20&lpage=none

We use those barrels to catch potable water at our cabins. If you set
them so the first rain of the season doesn't go into the �barrel, the
dust gets washed off roof.

A plastic garbage can degrades from UV a lot faster than a poly drum.

I don't know that's true... like I said, perhaps the cheap ones but my
Rubbermaid trash cans have been out in all sorts of weather for five
years now and show no signs of deterioration.... and just there you
claim to be using the very same trash cans to catch water off your
roof for drinking (potable).

And you have to pay for a garbage can.
We get our poly drums for free.

You're lucky to have a free source, most folks have to pay... because
such items that are made so well that they're reusable aren't
typically free for the taking... and food stores pay a hefty deposit
on those containers so they are not in the habit of giving them away,
maybe you glom/appropriate yours.

I'd be very wary of any claims from someone who warns that water
collection vessels for irrigating the lawn need to be food grade and
then totally ignores the question.

In article
,
Sheldon wrote:

Jan Flora wrote:
?Sheldon wrote:
Jan Flora wrote:

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch
the rainwater from the downspouts on your house.

Why would food grade drums be necessary for catching rain water
running off a non food grade roof... to do what... pour on the non
food grade ground. ?Am I missing something, or why wouldn't an
ordinary plastic trash can be suitable?

You can buy low quality for like $10-$15 but they will decay from UV
exposure and probably crack from freezing temps.

I have two of these, excellent quality: ?http://tinyurl.com/79bqf

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...ductId=46994-1...
92/20&lpage=none

We use those barrels to catch potable water at our cabins. If you set
them so the first rain of the season doesn't go into the ?barrel, the
dust gets washed off roof.

A plastic garbage can degrades from UV a lot faster than a poly drum.

I don't know that's true... like I said, perhaps the cheap ones but my
Rubbermaid trash cans have been out in all sorts of weather for five
years now and show no signs of deterioration.... and just there you
claim to be using the very same trash cans to catch water off your
roof for drinking (potable).

And you have to pay for a garbage can.
We get our poly drums for free.

You're lucky to have a free source, most folks have to pay... because
such items that are made so well that they're reusable aren't
typically free for the taking... and food stores pay a hefty deposit
on those containers so they are not in the habit of giving them away,
maybe you glom/appropriate yours.

I'd be very wary of any claims from someone who warns that water
collection vessels for irrigating the lawn need to be food grade and
then totally ignores the question.

You can pull your head out of your backside now Shelly. So what
was that thing about Christians, and why is it an unfortunate name?
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related

"Omelet" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article
,
Laura at theGardenPages wrote:

I know, I hate to see all that water to down the drain too! I've used
my laundry water for the lawn and shrubs with no problem. I haven't
tried it on veggies.

If you use boi-degradeable SOAP not detergent you can use the wash
water. The rinse water is fine by you have to be careful about that
fabric softener.

Plus, deep watering is better for shrubs than a sprinkling anyway.
Good for you!

Perfect storm indeed. We had good rain Nov. to March and then the
driest
March-April ever. We are looking at sever water rationing at the same
time the price of food is skyrocketing. I think I need a water tank.
--

Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBB0s...eature=related

All my piped wastewater goes to the leech field via the septic tank. Due
to
the low permeability of my local soil, I opted for an above ground leech
field. It the size of a very large putting green. Soil depth is too
deep
to have any concern of grass rootage affecting the leech piping. But, at
the same time, enough water is drained to keep the grass from drying out
in
drought periods...

And I'll bet it's REALLY green! :-)
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

You got that absolutely right. A genuine "green" green.

On the more serious side, I have to flush it with water to have the effect I
want to keep things going green in low rain times. I generally take a bath,
flush the toilet a few times consecutively, run the dishwasher, and run the
washer closely together on those days.

I generally use Xtra or Trend (both cheap) liquid washing detergents. I DO
NOT use any liquid bleach that goes to the septic tank. I use liquid bleach
and water in a 5 gallon plastic bucket to bleach whites. Pour the liquid on
the gravel driveway, rinse the clothing, pour the rinse water in same
location, then wash clothing. The wastewater in the gravel driveway has
neutral effect on foliage that likes to grow there. Generally soak whites
for 24 hours or more in bleach/water, less bleach needed. Have not used any
bacteria additives to date for the septic tank. For novices, the common way
to "start" a septic tank is with yeast from the grocery store. After that,
just maintain it with adequate waste and water.
--
Dave

Parkinson's disease, not easy to define.
Much less cure.

In article
,
Billy wrote:

You'd have to have very good teeth to eat fried tripe. g

Same thing with sheep's stomach. It's Nature's natural protection
against haggis;-)

--

Billy

giggles
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article , Charlie wrote:

On Mon, 05 May 2008 08:02:20 -0700, Billy wrote:

In article
,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

Charlie wrote in message

Oh dear me......carp is our absolutlyist favoritist fish for plate!!

Charlie, you are not going to believe this, but here in Aus, they are used
as a fertiliser. And it is called (wait for it) 'Charlie Carp':
http://www.charliecarp.com/

This should be good;-))

Har har, says I. I can hear you snickerin' all the way out here in
the sticks, Mister Billy. You too, Fran.

The possibilities are numerous, aren't they. Ya'll should be gettin'
some good mileage outta this one.......at poor old CharlieCarp's
expense!

Methinks I got nuttin' here, absotootly nuttin.

I'm off to help younger son dig and set posts for a fence.

Harrumph......ya'll go right on ahead and have yer fun, sorry suckers
ya be. I'll be back!!!

Charlie

lol

I won't be posting much this week. I had a jury summons this morning
and I got picked. :-P Don't know how much I'm going to be able to get
out of work on top of it. I work nights and I'll be in court from 9am
to 5pm for the rest of the week.

sigh

This was my first time ever to get picked to serve.
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article , Charlie wrote:

On Mon, 05 May 2008 08:02:20 -0700, Billy wrote:

In article
,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

Charlie wrote in message

Oh dear me......carp is our absolutlyist favoritist fish for plate!!

Charlie, you are not going to believe this, but here in Aus, they are
used
as a fertiliser. And it is called (wait for it) 'Charlie Carp':
http://www.charliecarp.com/

This should be good;-))

Har har, says I. I can hear you snickerin' all the way out here in
the sticks, Mister Billy. You too, Fran.

The possibilities are numerous, aren't they. Ya'll should be gettin'
some good mileage outta this one.......at poor old CharlieCarp's
expense!

Methinks I got nuttin' here, absotootly nuttin.

I'm off to help younger son dig and set posts for a fence.

Harrumph......ya'll go right on ahead and have yer fun, sorry suckers
ya be. I'll be back!!!

Charlie

You're not gonna' carp at us for havin' a wee bit o' foon, are ye?
Like they say, carp' diem.:-))

g
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article
,
Billy wrote:

Like they say, carp' diem.:-))

Seize the fish?
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article
,
Sheldon wrote:

Jan Flora wrote:
?Sheldon wrote:
Jan Flora wrote:

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch
the rainwater from the downspouts on your house.

Why would food grade drums be necessary for catching rain water
running off a non food grade roof... to do what... pour on the non
food grade ground. ?Am I missing something, or why wouldn't an
ordinary plastic trash can be suitable?

You can buy low quality for like $10-$15 but they will decay from UV
exposure and probably crack from freezing temps.

I have two of these, excellent quality: ?http://tinyurl.com/79bqf

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...ductId=46994-1...
92/20&lpage=none

We use those barrels to catch potable water at our cabins. If you set
them so the first rain of the season doesn't go into the ?barrel, the
dust gets washed off roof.

A plastic garbage can degrades from UV a lot faster than a poly drum.

I don't know that's true... like I said, perhaps the cheap ones but my
Rubbermaid trash cans have been out in all sorts of weather for five
years now and show no signs of deterioration.... and just there you
claim to be using the very same trash cans to catch water off your
roof for drinking (potable).

And you have to pay for a garbage can.
We get our poly drums for free.

You're lucky to have a free source, most folks have to pay... because
such items that are made so well that they're reusable aren't
typically free for the taking... and food stores pay a hefty deposit
on those containers so they are not in the habit of giving them away,
maybe you glom/appropriate yours.

I'd be very wary of any claims from someone who warns that water
collection vessels for irrigating the lawn need to be food grade and
then totally ignores the question.

I wonder about using a good ol' fashioned wood barrel, sealed with bees
wax?

It'd be more decorative at the very least.
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article
,
Sheldon wrote:

I don't know that's true... like I said, perhaps the cheap ones but my
Rubbermaid trash cans have been out in all sorts of weather for five
years now and show no signs of deterioration.... and just there you
claim to be using the very same trash cans to catch water off your
roof for drinking (potable).

You are so right about rubbermade. I've got some trash containers out
back made by them that are older than 5 years. They last forever.
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article , Charlie wrote:

On Mon, 5 May 2008 16:36:26 +1000, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
wrote:

Charlie wrote in message

Oh dear me......carp is our absolutlyist favoritist fish for plate!!

Charlie, you are not going to believe this, but here in Aus, they are used
as a fertiliser. And it is called (wait for it) 'Charlie Carp':
http://www.charliecarp.com/


Oh har dee har har. Charliecarp, what the bloody hell...ain't nothin'
like a bloke settin' his own self up fer something like this, eh? I
s'pose you are feelin' right cute about yourself, ain't ya? ;-)

'sall right, y'all enjoy yourselves.

Carp in a jug......whoever heard of such shit. Waste of good food,
if'ns ya ask me, but since ya didn't, I'm tellin' ya anyways.

I'll quit carping at y'all, for now, and go back to building fence

Charlie

Do like the Native Americans showed the pilgrims. Plant fish along with
the seeds in the corn field. :-)
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
Sheldon wrote:

Jan Flora wrote:
?Sheldon wrote:
Jan Flora wrote:

Get some food-grade poly drums and set them up to catch
the rainwater from the downspouts on your house.

Why would food grade drums be necessary for catching rain water
running off a non food grade roof... to do what... pour on the non
food grade ground. ?Am I missing something, or why wouldn't an
ordinary plastic trash can be suitable?

You can buy low quality for like $10-$15 but they will decay from UV
exposure and probably crack from freezing temps.

I have two of these, excellent quality: ?http://tinyurl.com/79bqf

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...ductId=46994-1...
92/20&lpage=none

We use those barrels to catch potable water at our cabins. If you set
them so the first rain of the season doesn't go into the ?barrel, the
dust gets washed off roof.

A plastic garbage can degrades from UV a lot faster than a poly drum.

I don't know that's true... like I said, perhaps the cheap ones but my
Rubbermaid trash cans have been out in all sorts of weather for five
years now and show no signs of deterioration.... and just there you
claim to be using the very same trash cans to catch water off your
roof for drinking (potable).

And you have to pay for a garbage can.
We get our poly drums for free.

You're lucky to have a free source, most folks have to pay... because
such items that are made so well that they're reusable aren't
typically free for the taking... and food stores pay a hefty deposit
on those containers so they are not in the habit of giving them away,
maybe you glom/appropriate yours.

I'd be very wary of any claims from someone who warns that water
collection vessels for irrigating the lawn need to be food grade and
then totally ignores the question.

You can pull your head out of your backside now Shelly. So what
was that thing about Christians, and why is it an unfortunate name?

Hey now, be nice! :-) I've seen pics of Sheldon's gardens and produce.
And he is a cat lover. g His garden produce is gorgeous.
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article , Charlie wrote:

On Mon, 05 May 2008 08:02:20 -0700, Billy wrote:

In article
,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

Charlie wrote in message

Oh dear me......carp is our absolutlyist favoritist fish for plate!!

Charlie, you are not going to believe this, but here in Aus, they are
used
as a fertiliser. And it is called (wait for it) 'Charlie Carp':
http://www.charliecarp.com/

This should be good;-))

Har har, says I. I can hear you snickerin' all the way out here in
the sticks, Mister Billy. You too, Fran.

The possibilities are numerous, aren't they. Ya'll should be gettin'
some good mileage outta this one.......at poor old CharlieCarp's
expense!

Methinks I got nuttin' here, absotootly nuttin.

I'm off to help younger son dig and set posts for a fence.

Harrumph......ya'll go right on ahead and have yer fun, sorry suckers
ya be. I'll be back!!!

Charlie

lol

I won't be posting much this week. I had a jury summons this morning
and I got picked. :-P Don't know how much I'm going to be able to get
out of work on top of it. I work nights and I'll be in court from 9am
to 5pm for the rest of the week.

sigh

This was my first time ever to get picked to serve.

Take a deck of cards if inclined and that novel you been meaning to
read. I'd also have lunch stuff as a backup. Hell it it also a chance
to endure mindless television.

Bill

Bill

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

In article
,
Bill wrote:

I won't be posting much this week. I had a jury summons this morning
and I got picked. :-P Don't know how much I'm going to be able to get
out of work on top of it. I work nights and I'll be in court from 9am
to 5pm for the rest of the week.

sigh

This was my first time ever to get picked to serve.

Take a deck of cards if inclined and that novel you been meaning to
read. I'd also have lunch stuff as a backup. Hell it it also a chance
to endure mindless television.

Bill

Already got a Novel I started today. :-)
It's taking the place of the pistol in the fannypack purse Holster.

Can't take one of those into a courthouse, even with the CCW permit.
The holster pocket is just the right size to hold a book!
--
--

Peace! Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a Bitch."
-- Jack Nicholson