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All my edible's are dying
Evening Ladies and Gent's
This year I have dicided to get myself a greenhouse and grow some tomatoe's etc... Everything is working great untill the plants started fruiting, I got some nice tomatoes comming thru. I have started to know little black speckles forming on the bottom of my tomatoes, and then they are turning bad and mushy, Can anyone suggest something for me to try? Also my Pumpin's,marrow's and butternut squash had nice big flowers, then the big flower heads are dying and snapping completly off the stalks, any help on this matter would be great, this is really starting to annoy me, They all have lived and grew nicely in my greenhouse, for last few months, Regards Richard |
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All my edible's are dying
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Anything_exotic wrote: Evening Ladies and Gent's This year I have dicided to get myself a greenhouse and grow some tomatoe's etc... Everything is working great untill the plants started fruiting, I got some nice tomatoes comming thru. I have started to know little black speckles forming on the bottom of my tomatoes, and then they are turning bad and mushy, Can anyone suggest something for me to try? Also my Pumpin's,marrow's and butternut squash had nice big flowers, then the big flower heads are dying and snapping completly off the stalks, any help on this matter would be great, this is really starting to annoy me, They all have lived and grew nicely in my greenhouse, for last few months, Regards Richard Sounds like a fungal problem. How humid is it in the greenhouse? Is it getting plenty of air flow? -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein |
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"Omelet" wrote in message news In article , Anything_exotic wrote: Evening Ladies and Gent's This year I have dicided to get myself a greenhouse and grow some tomatoe's etc... Everything is working great untill the plants started fruiting, I got some nice tomatoes comming thru. I have started to know little black speckles forming on the bottom of my tomatoes, and then they are turning bad and mushy, Can anyone suggest something for me to try? Also my Pumpin's,marrow's and butternut squash had nice big flowers, then the big flower heads are dying and snapping completly off the stalks, any help on this matter would be great, this is really starting to annoy me, They all have lived and grew nicely in my greenhouse, for last few months, Regards Richard Sounds like a fungal problem. How humid is it in the greenhouse? Is it getting plenty of air flow? -- Peace! Om That would be a good chance but there may be more than one problem, hard to say without seeing. Also how would the curcurbits get pollinated? Can bees get into the greenhouse? Are you doing it by hand? David |
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All my edible's are dying
Anything_exotic said:
Evening Ladies and Gent's This year I have dicided to get myself a greenhouse and grow some tomatoe's etc... Everything is working great untill the plants started fruiting, I got some nice tomatoes comming thru. I have started to know little black speckles forming on the bottom of my tomatoes, and then they are turning bad and mushy, Can anyone suggest something for me to try? Could be blossom end rot, which is a problem of low calcium availability in the fruit. (/quote from http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/3000/3117.html) Blossom-end rot is induced when demand for calcium exceeds supply. This may result from low calcium levels or high amounts of competitive cations in the soil, drought stress, or excessive soil moisture fluctuations which reduce uptake and movement of calcium into the plant, or rapid, vegetative growth due to excessive nitrogen fertilization. Management 1. Maintain the soil pH around 6.5. Liming will supply calcium and will increase the ratio of calcium ions to other competitive ions in the soil. 2. Use nitrate nitrogen as the fertilizer nitrogen source. Ammoniacal nitrogen may increase blossom-end rot as excess ammonium ions reduce calcium uptake. Avoid over-fertilization as side dressings during early fruiting, especially with ammoniacal forms of nitrogen. 3. Avoid drought stress and wide fluctuations in soil moisture by using mulches and/or irrigation. Plants generally need about one inch of moisture per week from rain or irrigation for proper growth and development. 4. Foliar applications of calcium, which are often advocated, are of little value because of poor absorption and movement to fruit where it is needed. (end quote) Also my Pumpin's,marrow's and butternut squash had nice big flowers, then the big flower heads are dying and snapping completly off the stalks, The first thing I would suspect is a lack of pollination. Do bees have access to the greenhouse? If not, then you will have to hand pollinate the squash. They could also be suffering something like blossom end rot, or otherwise aborting fruit due to nutrient or temperature stress. How hot does it get in the greenhouse during the day? (Hope I have caught all the typos, as I have injured some fingers on my left hand, and I touch type...) -- Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast) After enlightenment, the laundry. |
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All my edible's are dying
I'm replying to this post with my tomato problem since I'm getting an
error message trying to post a new message! Two of my tomato plants suddenly went into total wilt. I've never seen this type of wilting problem. Last year in a different spot I had some wilting disease that started at the bottom of the plant and they responded a bit to extra watering, for a while, before they expired. These tomatoes are wilted top to bottom, no leaf discoloring. I'd appreciate any help identifying this problem and either a cure or future prevention. This is only the second year of planting tomatoes in this area and so far the other plants near these two affected ones are doing fine. I'm getting a lot of strange things going on in the garden this year - plants that don't look healthy, black spotting on a brand new, expensive hydrangea and almost overnight major increase in black spotting on all my roses, other perennials that just don't look right etc. I'm an organic gardener, so any help in that direction would be most appreciated. Thanks! June |
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sometime in the recent past Anything_exotic posted this:
Evening Ladies and Gent's This year I have dicided to get myself a greenhouse and grow some tomatoe's etc... Everything is working great untill the plants started fruiting, I got some nice tomatoes comming thru. I have started to know little black speckles forming on the bottom of my tomatoes, and then they are turning bad and mushy, Can anyone suggest something for me to try? Also my Pumpin's,marrow's and butternut squash had nice big flowers, then the big flower heads are dying and snapping completly off the stalks, any help on this matter would be great, this is really starting to annoy me, They all have lived and grew nicely in my greenhouse, for last few months, Regards Richard I have a small cold frame with some veggies in it. What I notice is that it has the appearance of high humidity, but the soil can still be relatively dry. As a result, it gets watered less than the outside garden. Not a solution, just a suggestion. Water - not enough and you're gonna die - too much and you're gonna die too! It's a balancing act. Wilson |
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Thanks for all your replys, I have notced recently that my greenhouse is always soaking, so maybe a humidiy problem, how would I solve this? leave the door open all day? I recently wrapped bubble wrap around my greenhouse, (somebody said to stop direct rays burning leaves etc..) I dont know I am new to all this |
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OK, I don't run a greenhouse, but um, wrapping it in bubble wrap to
prevent burning plants.. no. There are things for you greenies that are called sunshade, what they look like is a huge sheet of screened netting. Comes in different weights to reduce different amounts of sun. Take the bubble wrap off, it just ain't no good for ya. I don't see that that alone would cause all your grief, but it's a step in the right direction to put some sunshade over the greenhouse instead of it. Cheers |
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On Jun 26, 6:13�pm, gonzo wrote:
OK, I don't run a greenhouse, but um, wrapping it in bubble wrap to prevent burning plants.. no. There are things for you greenies that are called sunshade, what they look like is a huge sheet of screened netting. �Comes in different weights to reduce different amounts of sun. Take the bubble wrap off, it just ain't no good for ya. �I don't see that that alone would cause all your grief, but it's a step in the right direction to put some sunshade over the greenhouse instead of it. Cheers My greenhouse was always sopping too, and I've had problems with tomato plants wilting. Sinice I opened all the windows things seem to have gotten better. There are some blossoms, but no fruit yet. The plants seem healthier, though. |
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All my edible's are dying
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Anything_exotic wrote: 'Wilson[_2_ Wrote: ;800448']sometime in the recent past Anything_exotic posted this:- Evening Ladies and Gent's This year I have dicided to get myself a greenhouse and grow some tomatoe's etc... Everything is working great untill the plants started fruiting, I got some nice tomatoes comming thru. I have started to know little black speckles forming on the bottom of my tomatoes, and then they are turning bad and mushy, Can anyone suggest something for me to try? Also my Pumpin's,marrow's and butternut squash had nice big flowers, then the big flower heads are dying and snapping completly off the stalks, any help on this matter would be great, this is really starting to annoy me, They all have lived and grew nicely in my greenhouse, for last few months, Regards Richard - I have a small cold frame with some veggies in it. What I notice is that it has the appearance of high humidity, but the soil can still be relatively dry. As a result, it gets watered less than the outside garden. Not a solution, just a suggestion. Water - not enough and you're gonna die - too much and you're gonna die too! It's a balancing act. Wilson Ok Ladies and Gent's Thanks for all your replys, I have notced recently that my greenhouse is always soaking, so maybe a humidiy problem, how would I solve this? leave the door open all day? I recently wrapped bubble wrap around my greenhouse, (somebody said to stop direct rays burning leaves etc..) I dont know I am new to all this Nothing says "mold", like warm and damp. Give the greenhouse some ventillation during the day. -- Billy Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related |
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All my edible's are dying
When I said total wilt I meant that plant leaves are wilted top to
bottom. Some wilting diseases will only show wilt starting at the base and working up and that's gradual and in the beginning responds a bit to watering. The one thing I haven't checked for is cut worm damage, because I always put sticks around the stem to prevent that, and I also have them mulched in a cone shape, so it didn't seem like that would be the problem. I haver over 20 tomatoes planted and only those two next to each other are showing this problem. There are many more next to them in the same row and one row beneath as well as other areas of the garden and they're not showing this problem. I looked up tomato diseases on the Internet but couldn't find any pictures of a plant with this total wilting which came on within about 24 hours. I will check them out later to see if somehow a cut worm got them. At this point, I hope it's that instead of some other disease that might get the rest of them! We haven't have a lot of rain this season; but we haven't had drought either. We probably get a good rain once a week or so and none of the tomatoes, which I planted early, have shown any sign of lack of water. It's probably been hotter than normal for these western NC mountains - lots of mid and high 80''s days, even a couple of 90 degree days the past two weeks. Regards, June |
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sometime in the recent past gonzo posted this:
OK, I don't run a greenhouse, but um, wrapping it in bubble wrap to prevent burning plants.. no. There are things for you greenies that are called sunshade, what they look like is a huge sheet of screened netting. Comes in different weights to reduce different amounts of sun. Take the bubble wrap off, it just ain't no good for ya. I don't see that that alone would cause all your grief, but it's a step in the right direction to put some sunshade over the greenhouse instead of it. Cheers I've used the black weed barrier material as a shade on the greenhouse too, when I've moved plants from in the house (poor light) into full sun. Otherwise the leaves will burn (turn white,) but that's usually temporary, but disconcerting none the less when your lush plant that was trying to scrounge up sunlight now has more than it can stand. Professionals used a lime white-wash to diffuse the light, but I think that's another issue. Certainly open it up to air. Also a bit of a fan will dry things and the movement will cause stalks to thicken. Good luck. -- Wilson N45 W67 |
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All my edible's are dying
Don't know if you have the "17 year locusts" this year, but we do just
southwest of you. I've got a new planting of over 600 blueberry plants that are mostly destroyed. The locusts cut the stems to create a pocket for their eggs. I've seen them cutting everything from goldenrod to white oak. Good Luck, Steve "June" wrote in message ... When I said total wilt I meant that plant leaves are wilted top to bottom. Some wilting diseases will only show wilt starting at the base and working up and that's gradual and in the beginning responds a bit to watering. The one thing I haven't checked for is cut worm damage, because I always put sticks around the stem to prevent that, and I also have them mulched in a cone shape, so it didn't seem like that would be the problem. I haver over 20 tomatoes planted and only those two next to each other are showing this problem. There are many more next to them in the same row and one row beneath as well as other areas of the garden and they're not showing this problem. I looked up tomato diseases on the Internet but couldn't find any pictures of a plant with this total wilting which came on within about 24 hours. I will check them out later to see if somehow a cut worm got them. At this point, I hope it's that instead of some other disease that might get the rest of them! We haven't have a lot of rain this season; but we haven't had drought either. We probably get a good rain once a week or so and none of the tomatoes, which I planted early, have shown any sign of lack of water. It's probably been hotter than normal for these western NC mountains - lots of mid and high 80''s days, even a couple of 90 degree days the past two weeks. Regards, June |
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