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" Eating a half serving a day of soy-based foods could be enough to
significantly lower a man’s sperm count"
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On Jul 28, 8:19*pm, James wrote:
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" Eating a half serving a day of soy-based foods could be enough to
significantly lower a man’s sperm count"


There are over 2 billion Chinese in China. Do you think they don't
eat soy?
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Wil wrote:

On Jul 28, 8:19*pm, James wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25833435/

" Eating a half serving a day of soy-based foods could be enough to
significantly lower a man¹s sperm count"


There are over 2 billion Chinese in China. Do you think they don't
eat soy?


That's 1.3 billion Chinese.

http://chinesefood.about.com/od/heal...erns/a/soy.htm
.. . . the real problem is not whether soy is inherently bad (after all,
people have been consuming plants with hormones for centuries) but that
no one is sure how much soy it is safe to consume. While Asians have
been consuming soy for centuries, there have been conflicting claims
about how much soy they consume. Nonetheless, if soy starts turning up
in everything from cereal to ice cream, we may begin consuming far
higher amounts than is normally found in the Asian diet, without any
real idea of the consequences. An related issue is that modern
preparation methods for soy products may increase the health risks. For
example, some companies use chemical hydrolization instead of
traditional fermentation methods to make soy sauce. It's something to
think about.
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On 29/07/08 17:36, Billy wrote:
In article
,
Wil wrote:

On Jul 28, 8:19 pm, James wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25833435/

" Eating a half serving a day of soy-based foods could be enough to
significantly lower a man¹s sperm count"

There are over 2 billion Chinese in China. Do you think they don't
eat soy?


That's 1.3 billion Chinese.

http://chinesefood.about.com/od/heal...erns/a/soy.htm
. . . the real problem is not whether soy is inherently bad (after all,
people have been consuming plants with hormones for centuries) but that
no one is sure how much soy it is safe to consume. While Asians have
been consuming soy for centuries, there have been conflicting claims
about how much soy they consume. Nonetheless, if soy starts turning up
in everything from cereal to ice cream, we may begin consuming far
higher amounts than is normally found in the Asian diet, without any
real idea of the consequences. An related issue is that modern
preparation methods for soy products may increase the health risks. For
example, some companies use chemical hydrolization instead of
traditional fermentation methods to make soy sauce. It's something to
think about.


Billy,

What you suggest we do then? Don't eat soy? Tell me.

Ed
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In article ,
Ed ex@directory wrote:

On 29/07/08 17:36, Billy wrote:
In article
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Wil wrote:

On Jul 28, 8:19 pm, James wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25833435/

" Eating a half serving a day of soy-based foods could be enough to
significantly lower a man¹s sperm count"
There are over 2 billion Chinese in China. Do you think they don't
eat soy?


That's 1.3 billion Chinese.

http://chinesefood.about.com/od/heal...erns/a/soy.htm
. . . the real problem is not whether soy is inherently bad (after all,
people have been consuming plants with hormones for centuries) but that
no one is sure how much soy it is safe to consume. While Asians have
been consuming soy for centuries, there have been conflicting claims
about how much soy they consume. Nonetheless, if soy starts turning up
in everything from cereal to ice cream, we may begin consuming far
higher amounts than is normally found in the Asian diet, without any
real idea of the consequences. An related issue is that modern
preparation methods for soy products may increase the health risks. For
example, some companies use chemical hydrolization instead of
traditional fermentation methods to make soy sauce. It's something to
think about.


Billy,

What you suggest we do then? Don't eat soy? Tell me.

Ed


My understanding is that it is used as a condiment a meal in Asia, not
the principal course. As the extract that I posted mentioned, it is the
sheer quantity of soy products (tofu) that are being offered for sale
that is the concern. Personally, I intend to continue using soy sauce
and occasionally eat other soy products. I haven't looked into this very
much but there seem to be multiple concerns from mimicking female
hormones to causing thyroid problems.
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On Jul 29, 9:36*am, Billy wrote:
In article
,

*Wil wrote:
On Jul 28, 8:19*pm, James wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25833435/


" Eating a half serving a day of soy-based foods could be enough to
significantly lower a man¹s sperm count"


There are over 2 billion Chinese in China. *Do you think they don't
eat soy?


That's 1.3 billion Chinese.


That's only in China itself. There are Chinese living in all over the
world.


http://chinesefood.about.com/od/heal...erns/a/soy.htm
. . . the real problem is not whether soy is inherently bad (after all,
people have been consuming plants with hormones for centuries) but that
no one is sure how much soy it is safe to consume. While Asians have
been consuming soy for centuries, there have been conflicting claims
about how much soy they consume. Nonetheless, if soy starts turning up
in everything from cereal to ice cream, we may begin consuming far
higher amounts than is normally found in the Asian diet, without any
real idea of the consequences. An related issue is that modern
preparation methods for soy products may increase the health risks. For
example, some companies use chemical hydrolization instead of
traditional fermentation methods to make soy sauce. It's something to
think about.
--

Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind Barshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.nethttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related


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rst0wxyz wrote:

On Jul 29, 9:36*am, Billy wrote:
In article
,

*Wil wrote:
On Jul 28, 8:19*pm, James wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25833435/


" Eating a half serving a day of soy-based foods could be enough to
significantly lower a man¹s sperm count"


There are over 2 billion Chinese in China. *Do you think they don't
eat soy?


That's 1.3 billion Chinese.


That's only in China itself. There are Chinese living in all over the
world.

But he said in China.


http://chinesefood.about.com/od/heal...erns/a/soy.htm
. . . the real problem is not whether soy is inherently bad (after all,
people have been consuming plants with hormones for centuries) but that
no one is sure how much soy it is safe to consume. While Asians have
been consuming soy for centuries, there have been conflicting claims
about how much soy they consume. Nonetheless, if soy starts turning up
in everything from cereal to ice cream, we may begin consuming far
higher amounts than is normally found in the Asian diet, without any
real idea of the consequences. An related issue is that modern
preparation methods for soy products may increase the health risks. For
example, some companies use chemical hydrolization instead of
traditional fermentation methods to make soy sauce. It's something to
think about.
--

Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind
Barshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.nethttp://www.you
tube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related

--

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"Billy" wrote in message
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In article
,
rst0wxyz wrote:

On Jul 29, 9:36 am, Billy wrote:
In article
,

Wil wrote:
On Jul 28, 8:19 pm, James wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25833435/

" Eating a half serving a day of soy-based foods could be enough to
significantly lower a man¹s sperm count"

There are over 2 billion Chinese in China. Do you think they don't
eat soy?

That's 1.3 billion Chinese.


That's only in China itself. There are Chinese living in all over the
world.

But he said in China.


Cool! another graduate of the Goomba School of Hairsplitting.


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" Eating a half serving a day of soy-based foods could be enough to
significantly lower a man’s sperm count"


Maybe it's a poor mans vasectomy or Catholic birth control.


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