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Here's a bit of a quandary:
A recent purchase (apple) from a local food store (one of the major
stores in our area) turns out to be rotten on the inside, while on the
outside it still looks really nice and fresh..

What's up with that, and how would this kind of thing happen..? Also
had a couple peaches (same store) pretty much disintegrate on the
counter over a period of 4 days.

Is this a symptom of irradiated food?

????!
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Here's a bit of a quandary:
A recent purchase (apple) from a local food store (one of the major
stores in our area) turns out to be rotten on the inside, while on the
outside it still looks really nice and fresh..

What's up with that, and how would this kind of thing happen..? Also
had a couple peaches (same store) pretty much disintegrate on the
counter over a period of 4 days.

Is this a symptom of irradiated food?

????!


Nah.

No offense, but it's you not knowing how to pick the fruit from the
grocery bins. You can NOT go by just "looks!" :-)

Gentle fingernail flicks. Just like watermelons.

The fruit that "rings" is the best.

Mom taught me.
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Okay...

I'll give that a shot next time. I always thought that fruit rotted
from the outside in, though.

Hm. I suppose it _could_ have started from the stem end though.
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Okay...

I'll give that a shot next time. I always thought that fruit rotted
from the outside in, though.

Hm. I suppose it _could_ have started from the stem end though.


Count on it. :-)

Hope that helped! I'm always able to get a sweet, crisp apple (and
watermelon...).


Flick the fruit. A dull thud, bad fruit. A sharp, crisp "tink", good
fruit.
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:06:00 -0700 (PDT), gonzo
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Okay...

I'll give that a shot next time. I always thought that fruit rotted
from the outside in, though.

Hm. I suppose it _could_ have started from the stem end though.


Are you sure it was rot, and not frass? If the dores and nearby flesh
were full of black, grainy stuff, it was probably frass (poop) from
codling moth larvae. Our organically-grown apples have that all the
time. We just cut around it.



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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:37:04 -0700, Cora Fuchs
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:06:00 -0700 (PDT), gonzo
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Okay...

I'll give that a shot next time. I always thought that fruit rotted
from the outside in, though.

Hm. I suppose it _could_ have started from the stem end though.


Are you sure it was rot, and not frass? If the dores and nearby flesh

typo - for "dores" read "cores"
were full of black, grainy stuff, it was probably frass (poop) from
codling moth larvae. Our organically-grown apples have that all the
time. We just cut around it.


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Gentle fingernail flicks. Just like watermelons.

The fruit that "rings" is the best.


Apples and peaches "ring" with fingernail flicks? ???

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Okay...

I'll give that a shot next time. I always thought that fruit rotted
from the outside in, though.

Hm. I suppose it _could_ have started from the stem end though.



Keep peaches and apples in the crisper in your fridge, not on the counter.

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Gentle fingernail flicks. Just like watermelons.

The fruit that "rings" is the best.


Apples and peaches "ring" with fingernail flicks? ???


Not peaches dear! g

I was referring specifically to apples, and also watermelons.
The "thunk" has a high pitched sound to it to me as opposed to a dull
thud.

I generally pick peaches that are slightly soft and smell richly.
I also pick cantaloupe by color and smell.
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gonzo writes:
Here's a bit of a quandary:
A recent purchase (apple) from a local food store (one of the major
stores in our area) turns out to be rotten on the inside, while on the
outside it still looks really nice and fresh..

What's up with that, and how would this kind of thing happen..? Also
had a couple peaches (same store) pretty much disintegrate on the
counter over a period of 4 days.

Is this a symptom of irradiated food?


I don't know anything about irradiated fruit. But fruit that has turned
brown throughout is typical of having been kept in controlled-atmosphere
refrigeration for far too many months, eg., 1 year too long.

With practice, you can gauge how old an apple is by examining its stalk.
Were the apples reduced in price to get them off the shelf? Is it likely
the chain of stores was clearing out an old (last seasons) stockpile
to make way for the current season's?
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)


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Thanks for the replies!

The fruit was full price, not discounted, and 1000% it was not frass,
it was rotted. I didn't even use it in my compost, it looked _nasty_!
I'm sure it hadn't sat on the shelf for a season, but who knows these
days..!

I'm not sure the apple had a stem at all.
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gonzo ha scritto:
Thanks for the replies!

The fruit was full price, not discounted, and 1000% it was not frass,
it was rotted. I didn't even use it in my compost, it looked _nasty_!
I'm sure it hadn't sat on the shelf for a season, but who knows these
days..!

I'm not sure the apple had a stem at all.


Perhaps they mantained this peach in the refrigerator under 0°C so that
it appears beautiful outside but inside it looks & tastes like an
ice-cream because its cells are dead and next it also becomes brown.
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gonzo ha scritto:
Thanks for the replies!

The fruit was full price, not discounted, and 1000% it was not frass,
it was rotted. I didn't even use it in my compost, it looked _nasty_!
I'm sure it hadn't sat on the shelf for a season, but who knows these
days..!

I'm not sure the apple had a stem at all.


Perhaps they mantained this peach in the refrigerator under 0°C so that
it appears beautiful outside but inside it looks & tastes like an
ice-cream because its cells are dead and next it also becomes brown.


Most fruit rippens from the outside inwards, except for pears which do
the reverse. If you wait for a pear to appear ripe on the outside, it
is probably rotten inside.

I tend to leave my fruit on the tree (apples and peaches) until they
start to fall to insure maximum sweetness. Most fruit in the stores is
picked when it is not fully ripe (hard as baseballs). Leaving it sit on
the counter to finish rippening may sweeten it up a bit, but the flavor
will not be the same as a tree rippened fruit. I find that certain
apples and peaches will go bad on the tree, so timing is critical.
Peaches will develop brown rot and some apples will get mushy and spoil
on the inside. I know which of my apples do that, so I pick them a bit
early. I lose some of peaches to brown rot, but the ones I can salvage
are sure sweet and flavorable.

Sherwin
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