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Mark[_9_] 03-01-2009 07:26 PM

Eggplant - which best colder areas
 
We live near Vancouver, BC and have been trying to grow eggplants for the
last two summers. First year nothing and last year we had one eggplant on
five plants.

Does anybody know of a good variety to grow in a Northern climate? I'm
ready to order seeds and want to try something new. We're hoping for a
warmer summer this year (the last two were milder than normal) so that
might help.

Any hints on growing them would be appreciated also. The wife read a lot
about them last year and we tried some different methods of growing - but
to no luck (well, maybe a little luck - the one edible eggplant gave me
hope for this year!).

Gratefully,
Mark Thompson

Ian Gay 04-01-2009 01:52 AM

Eggplant - which best colder areas
 
Mark wrote:

We live near Vancouver, BC and have been trying to grow eggplants for
the
last two summers. First year nothing and last year we had one
eggplant on five plants.

Does anybody know of a good variety to grow in a Northern climate?
I'm
ready to order seeds and want to try something new. We're hoping for
a warmer summer this year (the last two were milder than normal) so
that might help.

Any hints on growing them would be appreciated also. The wife read a
lot about them last year and we tried some different methods of
growing - but to no luck (well, maybe a little luck - the one edible
eggplant gave me hope for this year!).

Gratefully,
Mark Thompson


Outdoor eggplants are a dubious proposition in Vancouver. You need lots
of sun! (Remember last June? :() I have had best success with the
variety Vittoria (available from William Dam).

Ian

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David Hare-Scott[_2_] 04-01-2009 04:02 AM

Eggplant - which best colder areas
 
Mark wrote:
We live near Vancouver, BC and have been trying to grow eggplants for
the last two summers. First year nothing and last year we had one
eggplant on five plants.

Does anybody know of a good variety to grow in a Northern climate?
I'm ready to order seeds and want to try something new. We're hoping
for a warmer summer this year (the last two were milder than normal)
so that might help.

Any hints on growing them would be appreciated also. The wife read a
lot about them last year and we tried some different methods of
growing - but to no luck (well, maybe a little luck - the one edible
eggplant gave me hope for this year!).

Gratefully,
Mark Thompson


I am not familiar with the Vancouver climate other than despite being
maritime it is somewhat chilly. Eggplant like a long, hot, sunny growing
season. According to wikipedia the four warmest months have temperatures
ranging from about 11C to 22C. I would say unless you can arrange a warmer
microclimate there is no chance of raising healthy eggplants. Also I would
start the seeds indoors or in your hothouse and transplant when it warms up
to give the plants the best chance of a long growing season.

David


FarmI 04-01-2009 06:12 AM

Eggplant - which best colder areas
 
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
Mark wrote:
We live near Vancouver, BC and have been trying to grow eggplants for
the last two summers. First year nothing and last year we had one
eggplant on five plants.

Does anybody know of a good variety to grow in a Northern climate?
I'm ready to order seeds and want to try something new. We're hoping
for a warmer summer this year (the last two were milder than normal)
so that might help.

Any hints on growing them would be appreciated also. The wife read a
lot about them last year and we tried some different methods of
growing - but to no luck (well, maybe a little luck - the one edible
eggplant gave me hope for this year!).


I am not familiar with the Vancouver climate other than despite being
maritime it is somewhat chilly. Eggplant like a long, hot, sunny growing
season. According to wikipedia the four warmest months have temperatures
ranging from about 11C to 22C. I would say unless you can arrange a
warmer microclimate there is no chance of raising healthy eggplants. Also
I would start the seeds indoors or in your hothouse and transplant when it
warms up to give the plants the best chance of a long growing season.


I'd agree with everything that David said but in addition I would add that
they really need more heat for a longer time than tomatoes, so if you can
grow good tomatoes then you could still have problems with eggplants but it
could be possibile to grow them. I can grow good tomatoes but have had less
sucess with eggplants because of a short growing season. This year I'm
trying the smaller Labanese style tomatoes rather than the big ones. No
sign of fruit yet and the flowers are only just appearring but I've just
picked my first tomato for the season, so I'm hopeful that if we get an
extended Autumn, I might get some eggplants.



R M Watkin 04-01-2009 08:44 AM

Eggplant - which best colder areas
 
Hi All,

"Ian Gay" wrote in message ...
Mark wrote:

We live near Vancouver, BC and have been trying to grow eggplants for
the
last two summers. First year nothing and last year we had one
eggplant on five plants.

Does anybody know of a good variety to grow in a Northern climate?
I'm
ready to order seeds and want to try something new. We're hoping for
a warmer summer this year (the last two were milder than normal) so
that might help.

Any hints on growing them would be appreciated also. The wife read a
lot about them last year and we tried some different methods of
growing - but to no luck (well, maybe a little luck - the one edible
eggplant gave me hope for this year!).

Gratefully,
Mark Thompson


Outdoor eggplants are a dubious proposition in Vancouver. You need lots
of sun! (Remember last June? :() I have had best success with the
variety Vittoria (available from William Dam).

Ian

I believe they allso need a humid atmosphere, If you mist them from time to
time it may help.
hope this helps you.

Richard M. Watkin.


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Pat Kiewicz[_2_] 04-01-2009 12:09 PM

Eggplant - which best colder areas
 
Mark said:


We live near Vancouver, BC and have been trying to grow eggplants for the
last two summers. First year nothing and last year we had one eggplant on
five plants.

Does anybody know of a good variety to grow in a Northern climate? I'm
ready to order seeds and want to try something new. We're hoping for a
warmer summer this year (the last two were milder than normal) so that
might help.


My best guess would be that you should try one of the small-fruited
varieties. "Fairy Tale" Hybrid is an All-America Selection, which means
it has been tested in a wide variety of growing locations. I prefer it
to "Hansel," another more recent AAS. "Twinkle" is another small
fruited variety, not as productive as "Fairy Tale" but a better texture.

My favorite eggplant is "Neon" but it has not been available through
my usual sources the last couple of years. It is an early and prolific
variety.

Any hints on growing them would be appreciated also. The wife read a lot
about them last year and we tried some different methods of growing - but
to no luck (well, maybe a little luck - the one edible eggplant gave me
hope for this year!).


Tuck it up against a south- or south-west facing wall. Use a container to
follow the sun around or to allow you to get it up against a wall.
For instance, the warmest growing area in my yard would be along the
driveway right next to the house, where only potted plants could be
located. (BTW, "Fairy Tale" variety is well-suited to growing in containers.)

A small greenhouse or large cold-frame could also be used to grow
eggplants, so long as you have good temperature control.

The eggplant flowers in my garden are usually worked over by bumblebees.
They latch on to the flowers and give them a vigorous buzz to shake out
the pollen. In the absence of bumblebees, you would probably need to
act as a pollinator for your eggplants. (If you grow them under glass,
that's an absolute neccessity.)


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Bill[_13_] 04-01-2009 02:36 PM

Eggplant - which best colder areas
 
I

Mark said:


We live near Vancouver, BC and have been trying to grow eggplants for the
last two summers. First year nothing and last year we had one eggplant on
five plants.

Does anybody know of a good variety to grow in a Northern climate? I'm
ready to order seeds and want to try something new. We're hoping for a
warmer summer this year (the last two were milder than normal) so that
might help.


Perhaps plants suitable for Maine maybe useful.

http://www.johnnyseeds.com/catalog/s...arch&search=eg
gplant

Bill

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Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA






Steve Peek 04-01-2009 09:30 PM

Eggplant - which best colder areas
 
Try the Japanese varieties and use black plastic mulch.
Works for me in the mountains of NC.
Steve
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
Mark wrote:
We live near Vancouver, BC and have been trying to grow eggplants for
the last two summers. First year nothing and last year we had one
eggplant on five plants.

Does anybody know of a good variety to grow in a Northern climate?
I'm ready to order seeds and want to try something new. We're hoping
for a warmer summer this year (the last two were milder than normal)
so that might help.

Any hints on growing them would be appreciated also. The wife read a
lot about them last year and we tried some different methods of
growing - but to no luck (well, maybe a little luck - the one edible
eggplant gave me hope for this year!).

Gratefully,
Mark Thompson


I am not familiar with the Vancouver climate other than despite being
maritime it is somewhat chilly. Eggplant like a long, hot, sunny growing
season. According to wikipedia the four warmest months have temperatures
ranging from about 11C to 22C. I would say unless you can arrange a
warmer microclimate there is no chance of raising healthy eggplants. Also
I would start the seeds indoors or in your hothouse and transplant when it
warms up to give the plants the best chance of a long growing season.

David




Mark Thompson 08-01-2009 09:25 AM

Eggplant - which best colder areas
 
"Steve Peek" wrote in
m:

Try the Japanese varieties and use black plastic mulch.
Works for me in the mountains of NC.
Steve
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
Mark wrote:
We live near Vancouver, BC and have been trying to grow eggplants
for the last two summers. First year nothing and last year we had
one eggplant on five plants.

Does anybody know of a good variety to grow in a Northern climate?
I'm ready to order seeds and want to try something new. We're
hoping for a warmer summer this year (the last two were milder than
normal) so that might help.

Any hints on growing them would be appreciated also. The wife read
a lot about them last year and we tried some different methods of
growing - but to no luck (well, maybe a little luck - the one edible
eggplant gave me hope for this year!).

Gratefully,
Mark Thompson


I am not familiar with the Vancouver climate other than despite being
maritime it is somewhat chilly. Eggplant like a long, hot, sunny
growing season. According to wikipedia the four warmest months have
temperatures ranging from about 11C to 22C. I would say unless you
can arrange a warmer microclimate there is no chance of raising
healthy eggplants. Also I would start the seeds indoors or in your
hothouse and transplant when it warms up to give the plants the best
chance of a long growing season.

David





Thanks for all the suggestions. I've been told Territorial Seeds have
eggplant seedlings for sale in the next couple of months. It seems it's
quite difficult to grow from seeds. Anybody know if other seed companies
also grow eggplant seedlings?

Again - thanks for all the great ideas.

Mark

Pat Kiewicz[_2_] 08-01-2009 10:43 AM

Eggplant - which best colder areas
 
Mark Thompson said:

Thanks for all the suggestions. I've been told Territorial Seeds have
eggplant seedlings for sale in the next couple of months. It seems it's
quite difficult to grow from seeds. Anybody know if other seed
companies also grow eggplant seedlings?


Quite difficult? No more difficult than peppers or tomatoes, and
much easier than some of the things I've tried growing from seed.

A little warmth until they sprout, and some supplemental light.
I start them indoors in early April, plant them out in very late May,
and they are easily the healthiest looking of all the plants I start
indoors.

I've got a fluorescent light set up in a window that I set seed trays
on top of for bottom warmth, and used as a supplemental light
source after they sprout. (This isn't my main plant starting set-up,
but works just fine on a smaller scale.)

--
Pat in Plymouth MI

After enlightenment, the laundry.

email valid but not regularly monitored

for better results:
change user name to 'kiewicz'
change domain name to 'comcast.net'


Heidi H 10-01-2009 06:22 PM

Eggplant - which best colder areas
 
have you tried the long thin egg plants? i live in the south and they
die in hot weather, where the fatter type live till frost, they need
lots of water



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