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FarmI, and any other farmers who live in drought stricken areas,
I would appreciate hearing on how you are coping and what plants are performing best for you. It looks like we are in for another year of water rationing here in northern California, due to lack of precipitation and the need to provide our endangered salmon with sufficient water for spawning. The water also gets sent south so that people can grow lawns and hose down sidewalks in the great desert that is southern California. Yes, I've "googled" drought resistant vegetables and found some good sites like http://extension.oregonstate.edu/new...toryType=garde Looking forward to any advice you can offer. Billy Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031285.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net |
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, Billy wrote: FarmI, and any other farmers who live in drought stricken areas, I would appreciate hearing on how you are coping and what plants are performing best for you. It looks like we are in for another year of water rationing here in northern California, due to lack of precipitation and the need to provide our endangered salmon with sufficient water for spawning. The water also gets sent south so that people can grow lawns and hose down sidewalks in the great desert that is southern California. Yes, I've "googled" drought resistant vegetables and found some good sites like http://extension.oregonstate.edu/new...toryType=garde Looking forward to any advice you can offer. Billy Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031285.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net Guess you know about http://www.highcountrygardens.com/ http://www.highcountrygardens.com/catalog/browse/xeriscape-perennials/ But the above is ornamental. Below deals with food. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dryland_farming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...cultural_Resea rch_in_the_Dry_Areas All I think of is heavy mulch. We had a very dry year a few years back so I mulched heavy the next year in preparation. However the next year was very wet. So I play it by ear with a light mulch as I can always water but it is hard to dry out the sandy loam here. Bill Bill -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA |
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, Billy wrote: FarmI, and any other farmers who live in drought stricken areas, I would appreciate hearing on how you are coping and what plants are performing best for you. It looks like we are in for another year of water rationing here in northern California, due to lack of precipitation and the need to provide our endangered salmon with sufficient water for spawning. The water also gets sent south so that people can grow lawns and hose down sidewalks in the great desert that is southern California. Yes, I've "googled" drought resistant vegetables and found some good sites like http://extension.oregonstate.edu/new...toryType=garde Looking forward to any advice you can offer. Billy Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031285.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net Try container gardening. That is my plan this year for here. -- Peace! Om "Any ship can be a minesweeper. Once." -- Anonymous |
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Billy wrote:
FarmI, and any other farmers who live in drought stricken areas, I would appreciate hearing on how you are coping and what plants are performing best for you. It looks like we are in for another year of water rationing here in northern California, due to lack of precipitation and the need to provide our endangered salmon with sufficient water for spawning. The water also gets sent south so that people can grow lawns and hose down sidewalks in the great desert that is southern California. Yes, I've "googled" drought resistant vegetables and found some good sites like http://extension.oregonstate.edu/new...toryType=garde Looking forward to any advice you can offer. Billy I don't know about vegetables, I have not seen any that are worth a damn if you don't keep the water up to them. Most have characteristics that are contrary to drought hardiness (soft leaves and shoots, etc). You know about mulching etc already. As for trees and shrubs there are better choices as they have larger root systems and tougher bark and leaves and can shut down to conserve water when it gets dry. Here are some that come to mind that work in my district: Eucalyptus; hundreds of species, all shapes and sizes, suit diverse habitats many dry, some survive heavy frost or snow, you need to pick the right species for your conditions. Although not eucalyptus strictly you could include other gum trees here, eg angophoras Acacia; as above. Also many other Australian natives of different genera Crepe myrtle; amazingly tough, also pretty, thrive on neglect although better if pruned, survive drought and frost Feijoa (pineapple guava); very tough, quite good looking and tasty, can be hedged, needs a bit of water for a good crop of fruit but will survive without it, frost hardy Liquidambar Quite a few palms umbrella tree (sheflera) (sp?) star jasmine (trachelospermum) (sp?) great perfumed climber David |
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, Billy wrote: FarmI, and any other farmers who live in drought stricken areas, I would appreciate hearing on how you are coping and what plants are performing best for you. It looks like we are in for another year of water rationing here in northern California, due to lack of precipitation and the need to provide our endangered salmon with sufficient water for spawning. The water also gets sent south so that people can grow lawns and hose down sidewalks in the great desert that is southern California. Yes, I've "googled" drought resistant vegetables and found some good sites like http://extension.oregonstate.edu/new...toryType=garde Looking forward to any advice you can offer. Billy Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031285.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net Here is a start of possible interest concerning dry farming. http://lcweb2.loc.gov/diglib/legacies/AZ/200002727.html Bill -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA |
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Bill wrote:
In article , Billy wrote: FarmI, and any other farmers who live in drought stricken areas, I would appreciate hearing on how you are coping and what plants are performing best for you. It looks like we are in for another year of water rationing here in northern California, due to lack of precipitation and the need to provide our endangered salmon with sufficient water for spawning. The water also gets sent south so that people can grow lawns and hose down sidewalks in the great desert that is southern California. Yes, I've "googled" drought resistant vegetables and found some good sites like http://extension.oregonstate.edu/new...toryType=garde Looking forward to any advice you can offer. Billy Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031285.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net Guess you know about http://www.highcountrygardens.com/ http://www.highcountrygardens.com/catalog/browse/xeriscape-perennials/ But the above is ornamental. Below deals with food. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dryland_farming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...cultural_Resea rch_in_the_Dry_Areas All I think of is heavy mulch. We had a very dry year a few years back so I mulched heavy the next year in preparation. However the next year was very wet. So I play it by ear with a light mulch as I can always water but it is hard to dry out the sandy loam here. Bill Bill Another method that might work to some extent is to provide more room for each plant, as a larger footprint will provide more moisture when/if it does rain or when you are able to water. And as has been mentioned previously, Mulch. |
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chasndeb wrote: Bill wrote: In article , Billy wrote: FarmI, and any other farmers who live in drought stricken areas, I would appreciate hearing on how you are coping and what plants are performing best for you. It looks like we are in for another year of water rationing here in northern California, due to lack of precipitation and the need to provide our endangered salmon with sufficient water for spawning. The water also gets sent south so that people can grow lawns and hose down sidewalks in the great desert that is southern California. Yes, I've "googled" drought resistant vegetables and found some good sites like http://extension.oregonstate.edu/new...toryType=garde Looking forward to any advice you can offer. Billy Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031285.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net Guess you know about http://www.highcountrygardens.com/ http://www.highcountrygardens.com/catalog/browse/xeriscape-perennials/ But the above is ornamental. Below deals with food. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dryland_farming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...cultural_Resea rch_in_the_Dry_Areas All I think of is heavy mulch. We had a very dry year a few years back so I mulched heavy the next year in preparation. However the next year was very wet. So I play it by ear with a light mulch as I can always water but it is hard to dry out the sandy loam here. Bill Bill Another method that might work to some extent is to provide more room for each plant, as a larger footprint will provide more moisture when/if it does rain or when you are able to water. And as has been mentioned previously, Mulch. One of the above sites mentioned twice the distance between rows. The Hopi seemed to advocate planting deep to contact more moisture. Bill -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA |
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Here in Georgia we had a bad dfrought last year, our lake is down 17
feet. that is straight down. my summer garden was stunted , only hot weater plants survived. i watered every other day only way i fot things to live,, hope we get rain this year, but we are already in a drought. our lake is still down 15 feet |
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Bill wrote:
In article , Billy wrote: FarmI, and any other farmers who live in drought stricken areas, I would appreciate hearing on how you are coping and what plants are performing best for you. It looks like we are in for another year of water rationing here in northern California, due to lack of precipitation and the need to provide our endangered salmon with sufficient water for spawning. The water also gets sent south so that people can grow lawns and hose down sidewalks in the great desert that is southern California. Yes, I've "googled" drought resistant vegetables and found some good sites like http://extension.oregonstate.edu/new...toryType=garde Looking forward to any advice you can offer. Billy Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031285.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net Guess you know about http://www.highcountrygardens.com/ http://www.highcountrygardens.com/catalog/browse/xeriscape-perennials/ But the above is ornamental. Below deals with food. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dryland_farming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...cultural_Resea rch_in_the_Dry_Areas All I think of is heavy mulch. We had a very dry year a few years back so I mulched heavy the next year in preparation. However the next year was very wet. So I play it by ear with a light mulch as I can always water but it is hard to dry out the sandy loam here. Bill Bill Another method that might work to some extent is to provide more room for each plant, as a larger footprint will provide more moisture when/if it does rain or when you are able to water. And as has been mentioned previously, Mulch. |
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chasndeb wrote: Bill wrote: In article , Billy wrote: FarmI, and any other farmers who live in drought stricken areas, I would appreciate hearing on how you are coping and what plants are performing best for you. It looks like we are in for another year of water rationing here in northern California, due to lack of precipitation and the need to provide our endangered salmon with sufficient water for spawning. The water also gets sent south so that people can grow lawns and hose down sidewalks in the great desert that is southern California. Yes, I've "googled" drought resistant vegetables and found some good sites like http://extension.oregonstate.edu/new...toryType=garde Looking forward to any advice you can offer. Billy Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031285.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net Guess you know about http://www.highcountrygardens.com/ http://www.highcountrygardens.com/catalog/browse/xeriscape-perennials/ But the above is ornamental. Below deals with food. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dryland_farming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...cultural_Resea rch_in_the_Dry_Areas All I think of is heavy mulch. We had a very dry year a few years back so I mulched heavy the next year in preparation. However the next year was very wet. So I play it by ear with a light mulch as I can always water but it is hard to dry out the sandy loam here. Bill Bill Another method that might work to some extent is to provide more room for each plant, as a larger footprint will provide more moisture when/if it does rain or when you are able to water. And as has been mentioned previously, Mulch. A site mentioned doing your normal row distance but planting every other row. The Hopi link is interesting in that the seed is planted about 8 inches deep as water may be about. Blue Corn mentioned. I vaguely remember that the micro climates the Hopi provided was to hill the corn in a manner that reduced wind dehydration but captured morning dew. Complex No? Bill Story A man and his young daughter on house back were traveling along a road in Costa Rica. A car came by and back fired startling the horse. Both were thrown to the ground. Both were OK but shaken. When asked if they were alright. The response was " A spirited horse No? -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA |
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FarmI, and any other farmers who live in drought stricken areas, I would appreciate hearing on how you are coping and what plants are performing best for you. Sorry Billy, haven't been reading for a few days so didn't see your question - too bloody hot here to do anything but loll around contemplating one's navel. Yes, I've "googled" drought resistant vegetables and found some good sites like http://extension.oregonstate.edu/new...toryType=garde I assume you are interested only in veg so will talk about that (if flowers, use plants from South Africa or Aus) and probably wont' get to cover all the things I do but here's a few thoughts: Mulch and shade are very important! When you plant seedlings, use a fine mulch. I use chaff (alfalfa or wheaten chaff). As plants grow use bigger, less fine mulch (hay/straw). For corn and tomatoes, shove it on in buucket loads as both these plants put out new roots into the mulch. For spuds, mulch as the haulms grow. If the sun is really severe, then shade plants. I do this with either shade cloth, cuttings off Sacred Bamboo (I also use this if I have to plants when it's hot - the leaves fall off over time as the plant hardens up) and even a light bird netting - it seems to just give a bit of protection to make a more gentle microclimate. I often plant things in semi shade - like lettuces or herbs so that they get afternoon shade but morning sun. I also use upturned plastic pots with huge cuts in the side over things If I notice that the sun is causing then to shrivel. I have one bed that has wire all roudn it so I can drape an old floor leangth curtain over if need be. Old sheets are also useful for this. Don't waste water. Plant things into a depression so that if you have to hand water, the water stays around the roots and percolates down. Mulch depression. Evening watering if you can. As soon as you notice something needs water give it some - dont' wait 'cos an hour or two later can be too late. We're often moving hoses around long after dark which makes fun when you have the sort of venomous snakes that we do and that are supposedly nocturnal - we go through lots of torch (flashlight) batteries. Plant early and late if weather allows. In our early spring it's sometimes too cold and in our mid summer it's too hot to plant so I plant after the local gardening calendar says I should and hope that the seeds/seedlings/plants survive. One example, this year Broad (Fava) Bean seeds went in about 2 months later than was supposed to be their last Spring planting time. Not a huge crop harvested but still enough to be wortth the time and the space and the small outlay. Himself has always cliamed to hate all forms of beans, but I convinced him to actually taste one Broad Bean and he loved it so much that I then had to share the crop with him. Guess I'll have to plant a greater number next year to allow for a new addict. Some forms of planting can also be counter intuitive. Some things I plant very close together and somethings I plant further apart. Close - trees, lettuce, herbs, spuds, corn. Further apart - Rhubarb, Asparagus, Artichokes, tomatoes. Wind - stop it if you can. We get hugely hot westerlies and they can fry things to a crisp in a few hours. Over the years I've put up an 8 ft shade cloth fence with a windbreak on the windward side of it using acacias and small native shrubs. On the veg garden side of it, I've planted things like figs and apple trees and Prune trees. On the east of the veg garden I have a low hedge of Photinia Red Robin (or somesush name) with artichokes in a row inside that and flowers such as Agapanthas on the far (lawn ) side of the Photinia hedge. Depends on how hot it gets where you are Billy. Here it gets over the ton and can stay that way for a week of so. That isn't too bad if it comes on gradually, but lately it seems to be cold then a couple of days later it's stinking hot. That, I think is more of a problem that ongoing heat (except if therre is hto winds along with the heat). Hope some of that helps. More might occur to me as responses twig my memory. |
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g'day billy,
for me it comes down to mulch, mulch and more mulch, heaps of it on the garden beds up to 8"s deep, around trees up 20"s and out just beyond the drip line. then we use all our used water on gardens and potted plants. we try to plant native type trees or hardy trees like citrus. On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:21:48 -0800, Billy wrote: snipped With peace and brightest of blessings, len & bev -- "Be Content With What You Have And May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In A World That You May Not Understand." http://www.lensgarden.com.au/ |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:21:48 -0800, Billy
wrote: FarmI, and any other farmers who live in drought stricken areas, I would appreciate hearing on how you are coping and what plants are performing best for you. It looks like we are in for another year of water rationing here in northern California, due to lack of precipitation and the need to provide our endangered salmon with sufficient water for spawning. The water also gets sent south so that people can grow lawns and hose down sidewalks in the great desert that is southern California. Yes, I've "googled" drought resistant vegetables and found some good sites like http://extension.oregonstate.edu/new...toryType=garde Looking forward to any advice you can offer. My first thought is to use soaker hoses. They make the best use of what water you can afford to irrigate with. -- Susan N. "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy." Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974) |
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, Billy wrote: FarmI, and any other farmers who live in drought stricken areas, I would appreciate hearing on how you are coping and what plants are performing best for you. It looks like we are in for another year of water rationing here in northern California, due to lack of precipitation and the need to provide our endangered salmon with sufficient water for spawning. The water also gets sent south so that people can grow lawns and hose down sidewalks in the great desert that is southern California. Yes, I've "googled" drought resistant vegetables and found some good sites like http://extension.oregonstate.edu/new...toryType=garde Looking forward to any advice you can offer. Billy Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031285.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net Look at this as it touches on drought resistant plants and techniques. http://www.scribd.com/doc/2521880/Com-Plant "Zuni waffle garden was designed to conserve water in the arid southwest climate. " Bill -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA |
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Bill wrote: http://www.scribd.com/doc/2521880/Com-Plant "Zuni waffle garden was designed to conserve water in the arid southwest climate. " Bill I haven't tried the Zuni waffle garden design, Bill, but I have tried squash with corn, and beans with corn, only to have the corn choke out the sunlight. Granted, I laid out the corn on a Cartesian grid before, planting in a mound (on the south side of the corn) seems more reasonable to me. If I do plant corn this year, it will be simply to continue my efforts in trying to acclimate Golden Bantam to my environment. Thanks for the idea. -- Billy Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyFnE2Z5bpk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net |
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On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 10:20:28 -0800, Billy
wrote: In article , Bill wrote: http://www.scribd.com/doc/2521880/Com-Plant "Zuni waffle garden was designed to conserve water in the arid southwest climate. " Bill I haven't tried the Zuni waffle garden design, Bill, but I have tried squash with corn, and beans with corn, only to have the corn choke out the sunlight. Granted, I laid out the corn on a Cartesian grid before, planting in a mound (on the south side of the corn) seems more reasonable to me. If I do plant corn this year, it will be simply to continue my efforts in trying to acclimate Golden Bantam to my environment. Thanks for the idea. Here is a link to a draught resistant tomato, Millet's Dakota. http://www.victoryseeds.com/catalog/...to/tomato.html They have seed for heirloom and open pollinated plants. -- Susan N. "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy." Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974) |
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The Cook wrote: Here is a link to a draught resistant tomato, Millet's Dakota. http://www.victoryseeds.com/catalog/...to/tomato.html I usually buy something from Victory Seeds but I hadn't seen Millet's Dakota. Thanks -- Billy Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyFnE2Z5bpk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net |
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On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:33:43 -0800, Billy
wrote: In article , The Cook wrote: Here is a link to a draught resistant tomato, Millet's Dakota. http://www.victoryseeds.com/catalog/...to/tomato.html I usually buy something from Victory Seeds but I hadn't seen Millet's Dakota. Thanks I spent a long time yesterday looking through all the tomatoes at http:\\store.tomatofest.com There were about 600 varieties. Even tho I don't need any more tomato seeds, I bought 7. Who can resist a Julia Child, Blue Ridge Mountain when I live in the foothills and Richardson since it is my maiden name. All good reasons to buy the seeds. I did notice that Burbank is supposed to do well in drier areas. Check it out. Problem is $15 minimum purchase. -- Susan N. "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy." Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974) |
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In article ,
The Cook wrote: On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:33:43 -0800, Billy wrote: In article , The Cook wrote: Here is a link to a draught resistant tomato, Millet's Dakota. http://www.victoryseeds.com/catalog/...to/tomato.html I usually buy something from Victory Seeds but I hadn't seen Millet's Dakota. Thanks I spent a long time yesterday looking through all the tomatoes at http:\\store.tomatofest.com There were about 600 varieties. Even tho I don't need any more tomato seeds, I bought 7. Who can resist a Julia Child, Blue Ridge Mountain when I live in the foothills and Richardson since it is my maiden name. All good reasons to buy the seeds. I did notice that Burbank is supposed to do well in drier areas. Check it out. Problem is $15 minimum purchase. Yeah, that $15 minimum has kept me from buying at Tomatofest. I did find the Burbank at "Seeds of Change" also. http://www.seedsofchange.com/garden_...asp?item_no=PS 15446 They claim it needs moderate watering and is high in amino acids, for a tomato. Apparently the Burbank is a determinate tomato (good for canning?). Thanks for sharing the information. -- Billy Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyFnE2Z5bpk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net |
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:21:31 -0800, Billy
wrote: In article , The Cook wrote: On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:33:43 -0800, Billy wrote: In article , The Cook wrote: Here is a link to a draught resistant tomato, Millet's Dakota. http://www.victoryseeds.com/catalog/...to/tomato.html I usually buy something from Victory Seeds but I hadn't seen Millet's Dakota. Thanks I spent a long time yesterday looking through all the tomatoes at http:\\store.tomatofest.com There were about 600 varieties. Even tho I don't need any more tomato seeds, I bought 7. Who can resist a Julia Child, Blue Ridge Mountain when I live in the foothills and Richardson since it is my maiden name. All good reasons to buy the seeds. I did notice that Burbank is supposed to do well in drier areas. Check it out. Problem is $15 minimum purchase. Yeah, that $15 minimum has kept me from buying at Tomatofest. I did find the Burbank at "Seeds of Change" also. http://www.seedsofchange.com/garden_...asp?item_no=PS 15446 They claim it needs moderate watering and is high in amino acids, for a tomato. Apparently the Burbank is a determinate tomato (good for canning?). Thanks for sharing the information. Shipping is really a pain. When I know that I need (or want) a large variety I start making a list of what I want, then who has them. I try to get as many as possible from one place without leaving a single from someone. I particularly like to try different varieties to see if I like a new one better than what I am now using. -- Susan N. "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy." Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974) |
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In article ,
The Cook wrote: On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:21:31 -0800, Billy wrote: In article , The Cook wrote: On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:33:43 -0800, Billy wrote: In article , The Cook wrote: Here is a link to a draught resistant tomato, Millet's Dakota. http://www.victoryseeds.com/catalog/...to/tomato.html I usually buy something from Victory Seeds but I hadn't seen Millet's Dakota. Thanks I spent a long time yesterday looking through all the tomatoes at http:\\store.tomatofest.com There were about 600 varieties. Even tho I don't need any more tomato seeds, I bought 7. Who can resist a Julia Child, Blue Ridge Mountain when I live in the foothills and Richardson since it is my maiden name. All good reasons to buy the seeds. I did notice that Burbank is supposed to do well in drier areas. Check it out. Problem is $15 minimum purchase. Yeah, that $15 minimum has kept me from buying at Tomatofest. I did find the Burbank at "Seeds of Change" also. http://www.seedsofchange.com/garden_...asp?item_no=PS 15446 They claim it needs moderate watering and is high in amino acids, for a tomato. Apparently the Burbank is a determinate tomato (good for canning?). Thanks for sharing the information. Shipping is really a pain. When I know that I need (or want) a large variety I start making a list of what I want, then who has them. I try to get as many as possible from one place without leaving a single from someone. I particularly like to try different varieties to see if I like a new one better than what I am now using. Just on a whim. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw...3Dgarden&field -keywords=tomato+seeds&sprefix=tomat Bill -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA |
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:15:05 -0500, Bill
wrote: In article , The Cook wrote: On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:21:31 -0800, Billy wrote: In article , The Cook wrote: On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:33:43 -0800, Billy wrote: In article , The Cook wrote: Here is a link to a draught resistant tomato, Millet's Dakota. http://www.victoryseeds.com/catalog/...to/tomato.html I usually buy something from Victory Seeds but I hadn't seen Millet's Dakota. Thanks I spent a long time yesterday looking through all the tomatoes at http:\\store.tomatofest.com There were about 600 varieties. Even tho I don't need any more tomato seeds, I bought 7. Who can resist a Julia Child, Blue Ridge Mountain when I live in the foothills and Richardson since it is my maiden name. All good reasons to buy the seeds. I did notice that Burbank is supposed to do well in drier areas. Check it out. Problem is $15 minimum purchase. Yeah, that $15 minimum has kept me from buying at Tomatofest. I did find the Burbank at "Seeds of Change" also. http://www.seedsofchange.com/garden_...asp?item_no=PS 15446 They claim it needs moderate watering and is high in amino acids, for a tomato. Apparently the Burbank is a determinate tomato (good for canning?). Thanks for sharing the information. Shipping is really a pain. When I know that I need (or want) a large variety I start making a list of what I want, then who has them. I try to get as many as possible from one place without leaving a single from someone. I particularly like to try different varieties to see if I like a new one better than what I am now using. Just on a whim. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw_0_5?url=search-alias%3Dgarden&field-keywords=tomato+seeds&sprefix=tomat Bill Just what I don't need, more tomato seeds. They do not seem to be sold by Amazon so would have to pay shipping. Did you see #226, rare Polish Pastel, 5 seeds for $3.99 + shipping.. -- Susan N. "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy." Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974) |
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In article ,
The Cook wrote: Just what I don't need, more tomato seeds. They do not seem to be sold by Amazon so would have to pay shipping. Did you see #226, rare Polish Pastel, 5 seeds for $3.99 + shipping.. I had a hard time finding Marglobe a tomatoe from my youth. Those Polish Pastel look like a wedding gift unless your great ancestors liked them. Bill Beware what is born every minute ? -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA |
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, Billy wrote: FarmI, and any other farmers who live in drought stricken areas, I would appreciate hearing on how you are coping and what plants are performing best for you. It looks like we are in for another year of water rationing here in northern California, due to lack of precipitation and the need to provide our endangered salmon with sufficient water for spawning. The water also gets sent south so that people can grow lawns and hose down sidewalks in the great desert that is southern California. Yes, I've "googled" drought resistant vegetables and found some good sites like http://extension.oregonstate.edu/new...toryType=garde Looking forward to any advice you can offer. Billy Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031285.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net Got me looking about and found..."Breaking the Drought...visions of grace" By Stephen Levine A taste The Salad Sometimes I use platitudes instead of nasturtium flowers in the salad, the colors like stepping-stones across the delicate jungle in the old Chinese bowl whose crane's wings lift ever so slightly the porcelain centuries from the black birch table. More of course.... The earth in meditation.... isbn 13 : 978-0-943914-48-0 Wavy Gravy likes this guy. Bill -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA |
Drought
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Bill wrote: In article , Billy wrote: FarmI, and any other farmers who live in drought stricken areas, I would appreciate hearing on how you are coping and what plants are performing best for you. It looks like we are in for another year of water rationing here in northern California, due to lack of precipitation and the need to provide our endangered salmon with sufficient water for spawning. The water also gets sent south so that people can grow lawns and hose down sidewalks in the great desert that is southern California. Yes, I've "googled" drought resistant vegetables and found some good sites like http://extension.oregonstate.edu/new...toryType=garde Looking forward to any advice you can offer. Billy Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031285.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net Got me looking about and found..."Breaking the Drought...visions of grace" By Stephen Levine A taste The Salad Sometimes I use platitudes instead of nasturtium flowers in the salad, the colors like stepping-stones across the delicate jungle in the old Chinese bowl whose crane's wings lift ever so slightly the porcelain centuries from the black birch table. More of course.... The earth in meditation.... isbn 13 : 978-0-943914-48-0 Wavy Gravy likes this guy. Bill Happily, my drought is of a more aqueous nature and by chance it rained today. 'Tis odd here in Sonoma County, our strange weather has lead to an early budding of my peach trees and the regions grapevines. Other droughts are fended off with "Haiku: Eastern Culture v. 1" by Reginald Horace Blyth and friends like you ;O) Hope you enjoyed Robert Burns' birthday. Gotta' run. Dinner's on. -- Billy Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyFnE2Z5bpk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net |
Drought
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, Billy wrote: Other droughts are fended off with "Haiku: Eastern Culture v. 1" by Reginald Horace Blyth and friends like you ;O) Hope you enjoyed Robert Burns' birthday. Gotta' run. Dinner's on. Seems like a long time the Chinese addressed issues of place and living. Peral S Buck and Lin Yutang and others enamored too. Robert Burns blood line courses thru my veins if not in reality but in spirit I hope. Mom's was a Hoag whose dad played the pipes. So that said... Sisters and brothers of the sun We protect the soil as it is our life Life only from the sun seems dry we need both light and shade Still another spring to play in/on the earth Bill -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA |
Drought
International Drought news found here. http://www.climatechangecorp.com/content_list.asp?m=ct&ct=13 Local US drought updates found here by zip code. http://www.droughtscore.com/ Bill -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA |
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 10:04:50 -0500, Bill wrote:
International Drought news found here. http://www.climatechangecorp.com/content_list.asp?m=ct&ct=13 Local US drought updates found here by zip code. http://www.droughtscore.com/ What an idiotic site to fail to take in consideration that desert regions get less rainfall than tropical regions. |
Drought
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AZ Nomad wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 10:04:50 -0500, Bill wrote: International Drought news found here. http://www.climatechangecorp.com/content_list.asp?m=ct&ct=13 Local US drought updates found here by zip code. http://www.droughtscore.com/ What an idiotic site to fail to take in consideration that desert regions get less rainfall than tropical regions. Huh? What are you referring to? -- Billy Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7843430.stm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net |
Drought
On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:22:19 -0800, Billy wrote:
In article , AZ Nomad wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 10:04:50 -0500, Bill wrote: International Drought news found here. http://www.climatechangecorp.com/content_list.asp?m=ct&ct=13 Local US drought updates found here by zip code. http://www.droughtscore.com/ What an idiotic site to fail to take in consideration that desert regions get less rainfall than tropical regions. Huh? What are you referring to? I looked up arizona which is having normal rainfall. The idiotic site reported that phoenix is in a severe draught. It is only a draught if you think phoenix gets the same amount of rainfall as new england. It doesn't. It's the ****ing desert. 12 inches a year is normal and 12 inches in a year isn't a severe draught. |
Drought
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AZ Nomad wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 10:04:50 -0500, Bill wrote: International Drought news found here. http://www.climatechangecorp.com/content_list.asp?m=ct&ct=13 Local US drought updates found here by zip code. http://www.droughtscore.com/ What an idiotic site to fail to take in consideration that desert regions get less rainfall than tropical regions. On understanding drought Vs. aridity. " Drought is a temporary aberration; it differs from aridity, which is restricted to low rainfall regions and is a permanent feature of climate." http://drought.unl.edu/whatis/concept.htm Bill -- Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA |
Drought
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AZ Nomad wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:22:19 -0800, Billy wrote: In article , AZ Nomad wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 10:04:50 -0500, Bill wrote: International Drought news found here. http://www.climatechangecorp.com/content_list.asp?m=ct&ct=13 Local US drought updates found here by zip code. http://www.droughtscore.com/ What an idiotic site to fail to take in consideration that desert regions get less rainfall than tropical regions. Huh? What are you referring to? I looked up arizona which is having normal rainfall. The idiotic site reported that phoenix is in a severe draught. It is only a draught if you think phoenix gets the same amount of rainfall as new england. It doesn't. It's the ****ing desert. 12 inches a year is normal and 12 inches in a year isn't a severe draught. No reason to go "vulgate on us". The problem apparently was in the making for a long time. This article is from Mar. 2008 but still seems to address the question as to why after two years of above avg. rainfall, Phoenix is still in a drought. http://www.abc15.com/content/weather...-facing-drough t-after-above-average/NZPt5FQqt026_FLyh54JIg.cspx "The wet winter has definitely been a bonanza for us. But the Southwest in general, and Arizona in particular, has been in deficit for many years. Naturally, it will take many winters like this one to get us back into balance." - Tony Haffer*with the National Weather Service, chair of the monitoring committee Relax, we are just gardeners here. -- Billy Republican and Democratic "Leadership" Behind Bars http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7843430.stm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net |
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