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Hello all,

I am in the Youngstown area in Ohio, zone 5.
I have tried to grow garlic several times, in many different
types of soil. ( I grow only in containers, and make my own soil).
Every fall I plant, after reclaiming the pot from a veggie,
and in the spring the bulbs never sprout. I have found them
rotted in the pot, just laying there not growing, and sometimes
not found them at all...All the old time garlic growers here
tell me to plant in the fall, but I have heard that I can also plant
in the spring too. Any opinions?


And a second question, is there anyone in this ng that makes
homemade fruit brandy/wine? I have a recipe that has been handed down
for generations from the old country that I would like to try, but I
have a few questions.

Tim
"Dirt is what you get from working on cars,
soil is what veggies grow in."
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Tim wrote:

Hello all,

I am in the Youngstown area in Ohio, zone 5.
I have tried to grow garlic several times, in many different
types of soil. ( I grow only in containers, and make my own soil).
Every fall I plant, after reclaiming the pot from a veggie,
and in the spring the bulbs never sprout. I have found them
rotted in the pot, just laying there not growing, and sometimes
not found them at all...All the old time garlic growers here
tell me to plant in the fall, but I have heard that I can also plant
in the spring too. Any opinions?


And a second question, is there anyone in this ng that makes
homemade fruit brandy/wine? I have a recipe that has been handed down
for generations from the old country that I would like to try, but I
have a few questions.

Tim
"Dirt is what you get from working on cars,
soil is what veggies grow in."


I've planted cloves in the spring and harvested in the fall. This in a
garden not containers. I have planted in the fall too but defaulted to
just spring. Seems spring encouraged me to to plant and fall to
harvest . This mostly food stuff but it holds true to just about all my
plant life. Yea I know fall is a good time to plant trees etc but not
for me.

Concerning the wine start a new tread with Ping Billy in the title.
Posting the recipe and particulars may garnish a few extra replies.

Bill

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Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

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Hello all,

I am in the Youngstown area in Ohio, zone 5.
I have tried to grow garlic several times, in many different
types of soil. ( I grow only in containers, and make my own soil).
Every fall I plant, after reclaiming the pot from a veggie,
and in the spring the bulbs never sprout. I have found them
rotted in the pot, just laying there not growing, and sometimes
not found them at all...All the old time garlic growers here
tell me to plant in the fall, but I have heard that I can also plant
in the spring too. Any opinions?


And a second question, is there anyone in this ng that makes
homemade fruit brandy/wine? I have a recipe that has been handed down
for generations from the old country that I would like to try, but I
have a few questions.

Tim
"Dirt is what you get from working on cars,
soil is what veggies grow in."


Don't know about the garlic, but I'm a bit of a winemaker. Post away here or
try rec.crafts.winemaking.
Steve


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On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:02:27 -0400, Tim wrote:

Hello all,

I am in the Youngstown area in Ohio, zone 5.
I have tried to grow garlic several times, in many different
types of soil. ( I grow only in containers, and make my own soil).
Every fall I plant, after reclaiming the pot from a veggie,
and in the spring the bulbs never sprout. I have found them
rotted in the pot, just laying there not growing, and sometimes
not found them at all...All the old time garlic growers here
tell me to plant in the fall, but I have heard that I can also plant
in the spring too. Any opinions?


We're also in Zone 5 in Southern Ontario. We plant our garlic in late
October, mulch it well and harvest in July.
Quite possibly your problem is with the cloves not having enough
protection in your containers. In your situation I think you'd be
quite safe in planting your garlic in the spring. Plant well before
the last frost date in your area as garlic will stand even a heavy
frost. Your harvest will be somewhat later but, you'll at least get a
harvest.

Ross.
Southern Ontario, Canada.
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43º 17' 26.75" North
80º 13' 29.46" West
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I'm in Texas about an hour south of Dallas. I think we're zone 7. We plant
our garlic in October and generally harvest June-July. If you have the soil
space, why would you plant in containers? In my opinion , that is why your
luck hasn't been so good. Just go the grocery store, buy a head of garlic,
break up the cloves and plant them. Go with what the old timers say. They
know what they're talking about. Plant the cloves about 1"-2" deep. let
them do their thing.
It's not rocket surgery.


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Hello all,

I am in the Youngstown area in Ohio, zone 5.
I have tried to grow garlic several times, in many different
types of soil. ( I grow only in containers, and make my own soil).
Every fall I plant, after reclaiming the pot from a veggie,
and in the spring the bulbs never sprout. I have found them
rotted in the pot, just laying there not growing, and sometimes
not found them at all...All the old time garlic growers here
tell me to plant in the fall, but I have heard that I can also plant
in the spring too. Any opinions?


And a second question, is there anyone in this ng that makes
homemade fruit brandy/wine? I have a recipe that has been handed down
for generations from the old country that I would like to try, but I
have a few questions.

Tim
"Dirt is what you get from working on cars,
soil is what veggies grow





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"Tim" wrote in message news:giLzl.13718\
All the old time garlic growers here
tell me to plant in the fall, but I have heard that I can also plant
in the spring too. Any opinions?



I tried planting in the spring last year. Not a whole lot happened over the
summer, and by fall nothing had grown to any significant size. I pulled up
everything I could find and used it for food.

Come spring, I discover a bunch of garlic shoots where the old bed used to
be! (The new bed is slightly off of the old one.) Guess I didn't get them
all!

So I have no idea how or when to plant garlic, yet it is growing in spite of
me.
--S.

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Suzanne D. wrote:

So I have no idea how or when to plant garlic, yet it is growing in
spite of me.
--S.

At least I'm not the only one! grin
Most of the 'old timers' I know save their best heads for planting.
Maybe my trouble comes from trying to grow the heads from the store,
I donno. They could be too old by the time I planted them.
I ~do~ know that I love garlic though!
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"Tim" wrote in message news:xmpAl.13274
Most of the 'old timers' I know save their best heads for planting.
Maybe my trouble comes from trying to grow the heads from the store,
I donno. They could be too old by the time I planted them.
I ~do~ know that I love garlic though!


I hear that store garlic often isn't the best for planting. They spray it
with growth inhibitor or something like that. You should get garlic from a
seed store. I have only halfheartedly tried to grow it a couple of times,
but I love garlic as well and should probably take extra-special care of
these "volunteers" so that I can finally stop buying it at the store!
--S.

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"Suzanne D." wrote:

You should get garlic from a
seed store.


Better yet, you should get garlic from someone near you who grows it, since
it adapts to local conditions. Let them do the work!


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Gary Woods wrote:

Better yet, you should get garlic from someone near you who grows it, since
it adapts to local conditions. Let them do the work!


Of all the simple.....I've never thought of that.
sheepish grin
I'm going to do that this year. I know one older guy who has been
saving the biggest heads he gets for about 40 years...I buy a few bags
from him every year, and the flavor is so intense, that instead of
using 3 or 4 cloves, I only use one.

Thanks for making me see the all to obvious!

Tim


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Gary Woods wrote:

Better yet, you should get garlic from someone near you who grows it,
since
it adapts to local conditions. Let them do the work!


Of all the simple.....I've never thought of that.
sheepish grin
I'm going to do that this year. I know one older guy who has been
saving the biggest heads he gets for about 40 years...I buy a few bags
from him every year, and the flavor is so intense, that instead of
using 3 or 4 cloves, I only use one.

Thanks for making me see the all to obvious!

Tim


I've done it a lot of times. Being so close to an elephant you can't tell
what it is.

Steve


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I've done it a lot of times. Being so close to an elephant you can't tell
what it is.


And I'll hold off on the dope slap, having received a few in my day. Often
self-administered.


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I've done it a lot of times. Being so close to an elephant you can't tell
what it is.

Steve



And I'll hold off on the dope slap, having received a few in my day. Often
self-administered.
Gary


hehehe.....I was trying so hard to think of the 'why', that I failed
to just find an easy cure. Check to make sure the tv is plugged in
before sending it to the repairman...
Does this mean that I now qualify as a real newbie here?

Tim
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Tim wrote:

Does this mean that I now qualify as a real newbie here?


No, but to be an "old salt" you'll have to make a lot more mistakes.
Orchid people claim to be fully qualified you have to kill your weight in
orchids. Which in my case is going to be _really_ costly!

.....Finally, time to start heirloom tomatos; I usually plant the flats too
early. A few 6-packs of bok choi and other stuff already going on the
plant table in the south window.


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"Tim" wrote in message
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I've done it a lot of times. Being so close to an elephant you can't
tell what it is.

Steve



And I'll hold off on the dope slap, having received a few in my day.
Often
self-administered.
Gary


hehehe.....I was trying so hard to think of the 'why', that I failed
to just find an easy cure. Check to make sure the tv is plugged in before
sending it to the repairman...
Does this mean that I now qualify as a real newbie here?

Tim


No. A real human. Now certified.

Steve


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