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Wal mart cutting back on seeds.
I ran out of “little brandywine hybrid” tomato seeds from a packet that I
bought last year. It only had 60mg of seeds and found that Wal mart no longer stocks them. In fact they have seriously cut back on all their variety of vegetable and ornamental seeds. This seems odd since according to the scum media vegetable gardening is suppose to be getting more popular. Luckily I found regular brandywine seeds at home depot. |
Wal mart cutting back on seeds.
On May 11, 12:33*pm, "Mike" wrote:
I ran out of *“little brandywine hybrid” tomato seeds from a packet that I bought last year. It only had 60mg of seeds and found that Wal mart no longer stocks them. In fact they have seriously cut back on all their variety of vegetable and ornamental seeds. This seems odd since according to the scum media vegetable gardening is suppose to be getting more popular. Luckily I found regular brandywine seeds at home depot. I have had seeds from ChinaMart that did not grow at all, and an Amarylis bulb that never got anything but leaves. I was there returning an item and the man ahead of me was there with empty seed packets looking for his $$ back. The cashiers were laughing about him and I told them I would never buy seeds there again, and why. It is very frustrating to take the time and trouble to plant seeds and find out the hard way they were not viable. I've said all that to say, Maybe it's because the seeds were lousy to begin with. And I'll say I have had good luck with other already growing items from there. But no more seeds ever. Nan in DE |
Wal mart cutting back on seeds.
You might give some thought to joining the group I did. Your membership
enables you to have availability of thousands (yes, thousands) of heirloom seeds. Not hybrids I'm not affiliated except by membership. check them out here; www.seedsavers.org I would rather do business there than Wal-Mart any day, but that's just me. Thos "Mike" wrote in message ... I ran out of "little brandywine hybrid" tomato seeds from a packet that I bought last year. It only had 60mg of seeds and found that Wal mart no longer stocks them. In fact they have seriously cut back on all their variety of vegetable and ornamental seeds. This seems odd since according to the scum media vegetable gardening is suppose to be getting more popular. Luckily I found regular brandywine seeds at home depot. |
Wal mart cutting back on seeds.
"nanzi" wrote in message news:d947f63e-89ce-4a09-83ff- I have had seeds from ChinaMart that did not grow at all, and an Amarylis bulb that never got anything but leaves. I was there returning an item and the man ahead of me was there with empty seed packets looking for his $$ back. The cashiers were laughing about him and I told them I would never buy seeds there again, and why. It is very frustrating to take the time and trouble to plant seeds and find out the hard way they were not viable. _______________ I had some seeds this year that didn't germinate at all. After reading this post, I went back to examine which ones didn't grow. They were ALL from Wal-Mart. I have this theory that Wal-Mart sells the rejects from companies. Seems like you can buy a brand-name item at a different store and it will work fine, but if you buy the exact same item at Wal-Mart, it doesn't work. There have been times I have bought small, inexpensive things such as clocks, thermometers, and lamps, only to bring them home and discover they don't work AT ALL. The only thing I can suspect is that the manufacturers have batches of things that are damaged or defective in some way, and they sell them to WM. So with this theory in mind, it doesn't surprise me that the seeds that WM acquired were ones that didn't work. --S. |
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On May 13, 12:33*pm, phorbin wrote:
In article , says... I have this theory that Wal-Mart sells the rejects from companies. *Seems like you can buy a brand-name item at a different store and it will work fine, but if you buy the exact same item at Wal-Mart, it doesn't work. There have been times I have bought small, inexpensive things such as clocks, thermometers, and lamps, only to bring them home and discover they don't work AT ALL. *The only thing I can suspect is that the manufacturers have batches of things that are damaged or defective in some way, and they sell them to WM. If the manufacturers want to sell through Walmart, they have to meet the price Walmart will pay them. Walmart is big enough to call the tune and demand that the piper play without proper pay.That means cutting corners and reducing quality. *IMO a brand name product sold through Walmart should be sold with a "Walmart grade" label on it to indicate that it is a lowered quality item. What are the dates on the seed packets? I always check seed dates, so I know the ChinaMart seeds were current and fresh to me(not last years or any other weird thing). Nan |
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"nanzi" wrote in message ... On May 13, 12:33 pm, phorbin wrote: In article , says... IMO a brand name product sold through Walmart should be sold with a "Walmart grade" label on it to indicate that it is a lowered quality item. What are the dates on the seed packets? I always check seed dates, so I know the ChinaMart seeds were current and fresh to me(not last years or any other weird thing). Nan I had fair luck growing with wal mart Burpee brand seeds, it's just this year, here in so-cal they reduced the number of different types in the display panel. There is no more 10 cent seed packets. Luckily I was able to determine from last years seed supply which peas grow well here. Maestro for shelled and Oregon giant for the sweet variety. |
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"nanzi" wrote in message ... On May 13, 12:33 pm, phorbin wrote: What are the dates on the seed packets? I always check seed dates, so I know the ChinaMart seeds were current and fresh to me(not last years or any other weird thing). __________________ Yeah, mine were all current too. --S. |
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Charlie ranted nicely in message
... [snip] Walmart doesn't give a crap about your garden or the quality of the crap you buy. They care about profit. You trust them or those that kowtow to their methods? What a stoopit effing thread. You buy from walmart, you deserve what you get, for supporting the bastids. Why don't you people support reputable seedsmen who supply a quality product with a concern for customers and the planet. "But that's all that's available to me" is usually the follow-up whine. If the OP buys junk, especially CHEAP junk, you shouldn't expect much beyond CHEAP or JUNK. Using Da Net, that ****-poor excuse of not supportting reputable businesses is silly and stupid. Obsimilarrant: Walmart's Nine in Mordor won't ever see a dime from me or my clan. The Ranger |
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"The Ranger" wrote in message . "But that's all that's available to me" is usually the follow-up whine. If the OP buys junk, especially CHEAP junk, you shouldn't expect much beyond CHEAP or JUNK. I am learning this too. My habit has been to get the unusual heirloom seeds from organic earth-friendly companies online, and the "basics" from local department stores. Now it is getting to the point where I think I may as well shell out a couple extra bucks to get the basics of peas, corn, carrots, herbs, etc. from the same companies from which I buy the more exotic seeds. It costs me more, but I am helping the right people with my money, and might have better results in the long run too. --S. |
Wal mart cutting back on seeds.
I also bought a couple seed packets at Home Depot this year because they
were on sale for half off. I found out this year that the best places to buy seeds here(for the variety they offer, aka lots of heirlooms) are the 2 local feed/garden stores. Though now that we're getting very close to summer, I'm buying plants now, bought 2 strawberries which were berry-laden already($1 each), 5 tomatoes(65cents each), 6 pack of Red Sails lettuce($2.29), 1 Hungarian Hot Wax pepper and 1 bell pepper($1.50each), and 6 broccolis($3). Was also happy to see that 15 of the Walla Wallas I planted last year(I got a bunch of 50 for $2.50 at local nursery) are very happy right now. :-) The bargains are there, just gotta find them. Oh also got a 6pack of celery for...don't remember, but I know for sure it was under $5. Might have been $2.49. *can't wait for the weather to be decent so I can get these plants outside instead of in my bedroom* "Mike" wrote in message ... I ran out of "little brandywine hybrid" tomato seeds from a packet that I bought last year. It only had 60mg of seeds and found that Wal mart no longer stocks them. In fact they have seriously cut back on all their variety of vegetable and ornamental seeds. This seems odd since according to the scum media vegetable gardening is suppose to be getting more popular. Luckily I found regular brandywine seeds at home depot. |
Wal mart cutting back on seeds.
Suzanne D. wrote in message
... "The Ranger" when I ranted through message: If the OP buys junk, especially CHEAP junk, you shouldn't expect much beyond CHEAP or JUNK. I am learning this too. My habit has been to get the unusual heirloom seeds from organic earth-friendly companies online, and the "basics" from local department stores. Now it is getting to the point where I think I may as well shell out a couple extra bucks to get the basics of peas, corn, carrots, herbs, etc. from the same companies from which I buy the more exotic seeds. It costs me more, but I am helping the right people with my money, and might have better results in the long run too. I proved to one of my BILs (a founding member of "I got it cheap; so what if I have to buy ten of 'em") the silliness of buying from Walmart. So my one costs slightly more than his two or three of the same thing; mine don't fall apart or break within the first week of use, I'm not wasting time and money running back to "exchange" it for more useless crap, and I don't have to fight the mass of humanity that invades that acid-induced, Rorschach-inspired parking lot every weekend. Right now, my two Brandywine plants are putting out HUGE branches and leaves, my jalapenos are a vibrant green, and my Japanese eggplants are overtaking the trellis (courtesy of Yamagami's Nursery). I'm happy. The Ranger |
Wal mart cutting back on seeds.
"Lilah Morgan" wrote in message ... I also bought a couple seed packets at Home Depot this year because they were on sale for half off. I found out this year that the best places to buy seeds here(for the variety they offer, aka lots of heirlooms) are the 2 local feed/garden stores. Though now that we're getting very close to summer, I'm buying plants now, bought 2 strawberries which were berry-laden already($1 each), 5 tomatoes(65cents each), 6 pack of Red Sails lettuce($2.29), 1 Hungarian Hot Wax pepper and 1 bell pepper($1.50each), and 6 broccolis($3). Was also happy to see that 15 of the Walla Wallas I planted last year(I got a bunch of 50 for $2.50 at local nursery) are very happy right now. :-) The bargains are there, just gotta find them. Oh also got a 6pack of celery for...don't remember, but I know for sure it was under $5. Might have been $2.49. *can't wait for the weather to be decent so I can get these plants outside instead of in my bedroom* I think wal mart seeds were an ok starting point for the beginning gardener. But that was when they had 2 revolving carousels and 2 wall panels of seeds. Now all they have is only one panel of seeds tucked away in a back aisle. |
Wal mart cutting back on seeds.
On Fri, 15 May 2009 17:36:23 GMT, "Mike" wrote:
"Lilah Morgan" wrote in message ... I also bought a couple seed packets at Home Depot this year because they were on sale for half off. I found out this year that the best places to buy seeds here(for the variety they offer, aka lots of heirlooms) are the 2 local feed/garden stores. Though now that we're getting very close to summer, I'm buying plants now, bought 2 strawberries which were berry-laden already($1 each), 5 tomatoes(65cents each), 6 pack of Red Sails lettuce($2.29), 1 Hungarian Hot Wax pepper and 1 bell pepper($1.50each), and 6 broccolis($3). Was also happy to see that 15 of the Walla Wallas I planted last year(I got a bunch of 50 for $2.50 at local nursery) are very happy right now. :-) The bargains are there, just gotta find them. Oh also got a 6pack of celery for...don't remember, but I know for sure it was under $5. Might have been $2.49. *can't wait for the weather to be decent so I can get these plants outside instead of in my bedroom* I think wal mart seeds were an ok starting point for the beginning gardener. But that was when they had 2 revolving carousels and 2 wall panels of seeds. Now all they have is only one panel of seeds tucked away in a back aisle. I wouldn't send a beginning gardener to Wal Mart. The other stores and garden centers will have the basics. The beginning gardener should have the best quality seeds available. Otherwise they will become very discouraged with lack of germination and not continue. They won't know that it is not their fault. -- Susan N. "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy." Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974) |
Wal mart cutting back on seeds.
I think wal mart seeds were an ok starting point for the beginning gardener. But that was when they had 2 revolving carousels and 2 wall panels of seeds. Now all they have is only one panel of seeds tucked away in a back aisle. I wouldn't send a beginning gardener to Wal Mart. The other stores and garden centers will have the basics. The beginning gardener should have the best quality seeds available. Otherwise they will become very discouraged with lack of germination and not continue. They won't know that it is not their fault. -- Susan N. Yea you're definitely right on that. I paid a visit to walmart yesterday to buy some "4th of July Hybrid" tomato seeds and noticed the 2009 seed packet has changed from my empty 2007 pack. What's new is that half of the labeling on the flip side is printed in mexican, plus down below the origin of the seed lot says China! It's easy to see how walmart has destroyed another facet of America's cultural identity. |
Wal mart cutting back on seeds.
Mike wrote:
Yea you're definitely right on that. I paid a visit to walmart yesterday to buy some "4th of July Hybrid" tomato seeds and noticed the 2009 seed packet has changed from my empty 2007 pack. What's new is that half of the labeling on the flip side is printed in mexican, plus down below the origin of the seed lot says China! It's easy to see how walmart has destroyed another facet of America's cultural identity. The Wal Mart in my area is selling Burpee Seeds, a recognized company with which I have never had problems. I guess not every one of their stores has the same stock. Sherwin |
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sherwin dubren wrote:
The Wal Mart in my area is selling Burpee Seeds, a recognized company with which I have never had problems. Look back up this thread for Burpee's owner, and decide if you want to support them. It's your call, after all. Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G |
Wal mart cutting back on seeds.
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says... sherwin dubren wrote: The Wal Mart in my area is selling Burpee Seeds, a recognized company with which I have never had problems. Look back up this thread for Burpee's owner, and decide if you want to support them. It's your call, after all. Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G As best I can make out, Burpee is not owned by Monsanto but they do sell Seminis' (which is) seeds. http://www.seedalliance.org/index.ph...eminisMonsanto OTOH, dated June 1 2006 http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ews/2003029627 _heronswood31m.html If anyone wants to boycott Burpee for any reason, this would be a good one. |
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On Mon, 18 May 2009 09:07:35 -0400, Gary Woods
wrote: sherwin dubren wrote: The Wal Mart in my area is selling Burpee Seeds, a recognized company with which I have never had problems. Look back up this thread for Burpee's owner, and decide if you want to support them. It's your call, after all. I seem to have missed the message about Burpee's ownership. Who is it? -- Susan N. "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy." Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974) |
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phorbin wrote: In article , says... sherwin dubren wrote: The Wal Mart in my area is selling Burpee Seeds, a recognized company with which I have never had problems. Look back up this thread for Burpee's owner, and decide if you want to support them. It's your call, after all. Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G As best I can make out, Burpee is not owned by Monsanto but they do sell Seminis' (which is) seeds. http://www.seedalliance.org/index.ph...eminisMonsanto OTOH, dated June 1 2006 http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ews/2003029627 _heronswood31m.html If anyone wants to boycott Burpee for any reason, this would be a good one. W. Atlee Burpee & Company --- sold to Geo J. Ball Inc. 1989 -- -- merged with Seminis in October 1995 -- purchased by Mon$anto in January of 2005. http://www.saveseeds.org/biography/ball_geo_jr.html W. Atlee Burpee & Company was acquired1, for an undisclosed amount in 1991. In 1993, George became the president of the Burpee Holding Company (the parent company of W. Atlee Burpee & Company2).*This was spun off of Ball Holding Company, in 2000. Mr. Ball remained a director of Geo J. Ball, Inc. until its merger with Seminis in October 1995. He also served a two year term as Chairman of the Board of Petoseed (now also part of Seminis).* He has been a director of Seminis, Inc. since October 1995 and was reelected to this position for another term at the annual meeting in 2001.* (Seminis was purchased by Monsanto in January of 2005) On October 9, 2001, Burpee Holding Company filed for bankruptcy protection.* In the press release, it was assured that this would not affect the operations of the W. Atlee Burpee Company. ------ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holding_company A holding company is a company that owns other companies' outstanding stock. It usually refers to a company which does not produce goods or services itself, rather its only purpose is owning shares of other companies. Holding companies allow the reduction of risk for the owners and can allow the ownership and control of a number of different companies. In the U.S., 80% or more of voting stock must be owned before tax consolidation benefits such as tax-free dividends can be claimed. -- - Billy "For the first time in the history of the world, every human being is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2TzBE0lp4 http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050688.html |
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In article , susan_r23666
@yahoo.com says... On Mon, 18 May 2009 09:07:35 -0400, Gary Woods wrote: sherwin dubren wrote: The Wal Mart in my area is selling Burpee Seeds, a recognized company with which I have never had problems. Look back up this thread for Burpee's owner, and decide if you want to support them. It's your call, after all. I seem to have missed the message about Burpee's ownership. Who is it? Billy nailed it. Monsanto. I guess my criterion was dragging this morning. |
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phorbin wrote:
Monsanto. I guess my criterion was dragging this morning. Opps, I bought 4 packs of Burpee at WalMart today. Should I go to church and ask forgiveness. Why don't you boycott something practical like Citgo gas owned by that American hater Chavez? Sherwin |
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sherwin dubren wrote: phorbin wrote: Monsanto. I guess my criterion was dragging this morning. Opps, I bought 4 packs of Burpee at WalMart today. Should I go to church and ask forgiveness. Why don't you boycott something practical like Citgo gas owned by that American hater Chavez? Sherwin More doo, Doo? Even after the U.S. backed an assassination attempt against him, Chavez had the Venezuela oil company provide oil for the American poor. http://www.reuters.com/article/oilRp...25588920071214 Venezuela brings free heating oil to poor in NY Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:54pm EST By Rebekah Kebede NEW YORK, Dec 14 (Reuters) - Venezuela's president, Hugo Chavez may be a pariah in Washington, but on Friday the U.S. arm of the country's state oil company loaded up a truck of heating oil for poor Americans in New York City. The shipment to New York's South Bronx section follows a similar giveaway in Boston earlier this week, in the third year of U.S. heating oil assistance by Venezuela's Citgo Petroleum. The program has grown even as tensions have mounted between Caracas and U.S. oil companies and their allies in Washington. So far, I have almost the same deep respect for Chavez as I do for Fidel. -- - Billy "For the first time in the history of the world, every human being is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2TzBE0lp4 http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050688.html |
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phorbin wrote:
In article , Why don't you boycott something practical like Citgo gas owned by that American hater Chavez? Ah well, I figure boycotting anything Walmart or Monsanto is about as practical as one can get. Getting two at once doubles the good karma. As for Chavez I dunno about you but we're already boycotting oil and fossil fuels as much as we can. ...no car. ...use bike for everywhere in easy reach. ... use bus, inter-city bus or train for most other travel. ...rent car or pickup occasionally for practical purposes. And we don't have car payments, insurance, maintenance and fuel expenses. ---Just thinking about it gives me a glow of satisfaction. If you don't want to be held hostage, you have to prove that you don't need what the other guy is selling. If you can't prove it, he won't believe you and try to sucker you. So all you have to do is prove you can run your country without oil. Working it out should take about a week. Where did you say you lived, New York City? How does renting a car help the pollution problem? Sherwin |
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In article ,
sherwin dubren wrote: phorbin wrote: In article , Why don't you boycott something practical like Citgo gas owned by that American hater Chavez? Ah well, I figure boycotting anything Walmart or Monsanto is about as practical as one can get. Getting two at once doubles the good karma. As for Chavez I dunno about you but we're already boycotting oil and fossil fuels as much as we can. ...no car. ...use bike for everywhere in easy reach. ... use bus, inter-city bus or train for most other travel. ...rent car or pickup occasionally for practical purposes. And we don't have car payments, insurance, maintenance and fuel expenses. ---Just thinking about it gives me a glow of satisfaction. If you don't want to be held hostage, you have to prove that you don't need what the other guy is selling. If you can't prove it, he won't believe you and try to sucker you. So all you have to do is prove you can run your country without oil. Working it out should take about a week. Where did you say you lived, New York City? How does renting a car help the pollution problem? Sherwin Could you try to keep things in context, Doo? If you are going to respond, it is only fair to include the post that you are responding to. Not everyone knows what an idiot you are yet, so try to act like you have a clue. To some unsuspecting reader, you will represent our row, until they read a few more subsequent posts. Tais toi et sois beau. -- - Billy "For the first time in the history of the world, every human being is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2TzBE0lp4 http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050688.html |
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In article wildbilly-79F7AB.23114519052009@c-61-68-245-
199.per.connect.net.au, says... + Could you try to keep things in context, Doo? If you are going to respond, it is only fair to include the post that you are responding to. Not everyone knows what an idiot you are yet, so try to act like you have a clue. To some unsuspecting reader, you will represent our row, until they read a few more subsequent posts. These are didactic moment. ...most of the time. I try to consider the lurking audience. |
This is very frustrating to spend time and trouble, plant seeds to find out the hard way and they are not feasible. I have said so to speak, perhaps because of bad seeds, the beginning of time. I would say I have good luck with other development projects, from there. However, no more seeds forever.
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