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I thought that they were such cute little bugs when I first saw them.
My attitude has changed since they have turned the leaves of my
eggplants into lace. I'm planning to use the following recipe but it
won't be ready until tommorrow.

Garlic/Pepper Mixture
€ 1/2 cup hot peppers of your choice
€ 1/2 cup garlic cloves ( onions will also do )
€ 2 cups water
Steep this mixture for 24 hours. An easy method for steeping the tea is
to combine the ingredients in a clear glass jar, seal, and set in a
sunny location. Strain and spray onto foliage.


Additionally, I check out the nursery for nematodes today. Any other
ideas?
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"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2TzBE0lp4

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Billy wrote:

I thought that they were such cute little bugs when I first saw them.
My attitude has changed since they have turned the leaves of my
eggplants into lace. I'm planning to use the following recipe but it
won't be ready until tommorrow.

Garlic/Pepper Mixture
€ 1/2 cup hot peppers of your choice
€ 1/2 cup garlic cloves ( onions will also do )
€ 2 cups water
Steep this mixture for 24 hours. An easy method for steeping the tea is
to combine the ingredients in a clear glass jar, seal, and set in a
sunny location. Strain and spray onto foliage.


Additionally, I check out the nursery for nematodes today. Any other
ideas?


This PDF touches on what you mostly know. Physical barriers caught my
mind. Be careful with the Rotenone like stuff. Seems you may have a
task.

Bill

http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/PDF/fleabeetle.pdf

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I thought that they were such cute little bugs when I first saw them.
My attitude has changed since they have turned the leaves of my
eggplants into lace. I'm planning to use the following recipe but it
won't be ready until tommorrow.

Garlic/Pepper Mixture
? 1/2 cup hot peppers of your choice
? 1/2 cup garlic cloves ( onions will also do )
? 2 cups water
Steep this mixture for 24 hours. An easy method for steeping the tea is
to combine the ingredients in a clear glass jar, seal, and set in a
sunny location. Strain and spray onto foliage.


Additionally, I check out the nursery for nematodes today. Any other
ideas?
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2TzBE0lp4


My god I hate those little *******s!!! I actually mix the pyrethrum before I
go to plant my eggplant. One thing I've heard of but not used is the
cardboard/tanglefoot trap. Take 2 yellow squares of cardboard tack to 2
paint paddles and lightly coat with tanglefoot. walk slowly down the row
holding the squares on either side of the plants. Supposedly the little
beggers will jump to the cardboard.
Steve


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In article , Charlie wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:11:50 -0700, Billy
wrote:

I thought that they were such cute little bugs when I first saw them.
My attitude has changed since they have turned the leaves of my
eggplants into lace. I'm planning to use the following recipe but it
won't be ready until tommorrow.

Garlic/Pepper Mixture
€ 1/2 cup hot peppers of your choice
€ 1/2 cup garlic cloves ( onions will also do )
€ 2 cups water
Steep this mixture for 24 hours. An easy method for steeping the tea is
to combine the ingredients in a clear glass jar, seal, and set in a
sunny location. Strain and spray onto foliage.


Additionally, I check out the nursery for nematodes today. Any other
ideas?


Curse.... a lot.

The little effers do the number on eggplant *fast*, don't they?

I had trouble three years ago in the garden. Last two years I went to
pots with the eggplants and had no problems. This year I am hoping
for improved soil health to take care of the little shits, as I have
eight eggplants in the beds.

Charlie, fighting some kind of demon in my green beans.......grrrrr


Oh, I be crusing. I even got out my favorite crescent wrench for
throwing. Gggggg-rowl
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"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2TzBE0lp4

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050688.html
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Bill who putters wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

I thought that they were such cute little bugs when I first saw them.
My attitude has changed since they have turned the leaves of my
eggplants into lace. I'm planning to use the following recipe but it
won't be ready until tommorrow.

Garlic/Pepper Mixture
€ 1/2 cup hot peppers of your choice
€ 1/2 cup garlic cloves ( onions will also do )
€ 2 cups water
Steep this mixture for 24 hours. An easy method for steeping the tea is
to combine the ingredients in a clear glass jar, seal, and set in a
sunny location. Strain and spray onto foliage.


Additionally, I check out the nursery for nematodes today. Any other
ideas?


This PDF touches on what you mostly know. Physical barriers caught my
mind. Be careful with the Rotenone like stuff. Seems you may have a
task.

Bill

http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/PDF/fleabeetle.pdf


Well, spiffy. I got me some stuff called Monterey Garden Insect Spray.
which comes from Fresno, and, of course, appears to be a subsidiary for
DowAgro, aaaaaaah (

It has a snappy new insecticide called "spinosad".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinosad

and it can kill bees and aquatic non-vertebrates.

It seems that the trick is to apply late in the evening, when there are
no bees around, and should be dry by morning (harder for the bees to get
it on them). The eggplants aren't in flower.

I got a couple of hours to think about it. What do you think?

Oh, I also got some nematodes for the flea beetle larval stage.

Luckily :O) I have some twice froze habaneros (yucky) so I'll whip me
up a Scoville cocktail for the little bastides ;O)).
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2TzBE0lp4

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050688.html


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In article , Charlie wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 15:36:23 -0700, Billy
wrote:

In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

I thought that they were such cute little bugs when I first saw them.
My attitude has changed since they have turned the leaves of my
eggplants into lace. I'm planning to use the following recipe but it
won't be ready until tommorrow.

Garlic/Pepper Mixture
€ 1/2 cup hot peppers of your choice
€ 1/2 cup garlic cloves ( onions will also do )
€ 2 cups water
Steep this mixture for 24 hours. An easy method for steeping the tea is
to combine the ingredients in a clear glass jar, seal, and set in a
sunny location. Strain and spray onto foliage.


Additionally, I check out the nursery for nematodes today. Any other
ideas?

This PDF touches on what you mostly know. Physical barriers caught my
mind. Be careful with the Rotenone like stuff. Seems you may have a
task.

Bill

http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/PDF/fleabeetle.pdf


Well, spiffy. I got me some stuff called Monterey Garden Insect Spray.
which comes from Fresno, and, of course, appears to be a subsidiary for
DowAgro, aaaaaaah (

It has a snappy new insecticide called "spinosad".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinosad

and it can kill bees and aquatic non-vertebrates.

It seems that the trick is to apply late in the evening, when there are
no bees around, and should be dry by morning (harder for the bees to get
it on them). The eggplants aren't in flower.

I got a couple of hours to think about it. What do you think?


WTF do you think I think? Have you gone nucking futz???

"Spinosad shows low toxicity when ingested by mammals (male rat LD50 =
3738 mg/kg) and no additional adverse effects from chronic exposure.
Studies on spinosad show slight toxicity to birds, moderate toxicity
to fish, and slight to moderate toxicity to aquatic invertebrates.
However, it is highly toxic to bees (honey bee LC50 = 11.5 ppm) and is
highly toxic to oysters and other marine mollusks. Applications to
areas where bees are actively foraging should be avoided. After the
residues have dried, it is much less toxic to bees.

Beneficial Trichogramma and Braconid wasps are harmed by the chemical,
but it has much less effect on such insects as lacewings and beetles
like the ladybug and spares predatory bugs such as damsel bugs and the
big-eyed bug.[4"

What FKN part of highly toxic to bees did you not understand????

What FKN part of beneficial Trichogramma and Braconid wasps are harmed
by the chemical, did you not understand???

Give up eggplant, fer effs sake!!! The life of one bee ain't worth
you having grilled eggplant!!

I don't friggin' believe it.....are you trollin' for an ass-whumpin',
you old grump?!?!?!??

Gawd, I gottao go get drunk or sumpin'.....the world just ended.


Oh, I also got some nematodes for the flea beetle larval stage.

Luckily :O) I have some twice froze habaneros (yucky) so I'll whip me
up a Scoville cocktail for the little bastides ;O)).



Charlie


As I explained, I was going to spray it when the bees weren't out. Once
it has dried, they aren't as likely to pick it up and return it to the
hive. My gully hasn't washed for a couple of months now, so I won' be
impacting any aqua thingies. And don't you get drunk without me Junger.
I'll show you how it's done properly. Some folks seem to think that all
you have to do is face the moon and howl. It ain't that easy. There is
an art form to it.

I haven't consummated my deal with the devil. When making up my garlic
and habanero libation for the flea beetle, I started coughing like I was
roasting jalapenos, but I was only blending them. I just hope it doesn't
vaporize the eggplants when I squirt it on tomorrow;o)

As luck would have it, I have a number of plants in pots, that wasps
like to hang-out in. So tomorrow, a small forest of wasp friendly plants
get moved to the eggplants, the nematodes are loosed, and I roll out the
Scoville equivalent of "shock and awe" (be my luck if they are
undocumented flea beetles). If nothin' else, I'm keeping the ground
saturated because the flea beetle likes dry soil, tough. These suckers
are going to have pneumonia by the time I'm through with them.

When I bought the "Spinosad", I was told that it was like Bt. I'll be
getting my money back tomorrow.

So go back to bed. God is in her heaven, and all is well in the garden.

Faust has left the room.
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"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2TzBE0lp4

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050688.html
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On Sun, 24 May 2009 23:31:08 -0700, Billy
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As I explained, I was going to spray it when the bees weren't out. Once
it has dried, they aren't as likely to pick it up and return it to the
hive. My gully hasn't washed for a couple of months now, so I won' be
impacting any aqua thingies. And don't you get drunk without me Junger.
I'll show you how it's done properly. Some folks seem to think that all
you have to do is face the moon and howl. It ain't that easy. There is
an art form to it.

I haven't consummated my deal with the devil. When making up my garlic
and habanero libation for the flea beetle, I started coughing like I was
roasting jalapenos, but I was only blending them. I just hope it doesn't
vaporize the eggplants when I squirt it on tomorrow;o)

As luck would have it, I have a number of plants in pots, that wasps
like to hang-out in. So tomorrow, a small forest of wasp friendly plants
get moved to the eggplants, the nematodes are loosed, and I roll out the
Scoville equivalent of "shock and awe" (be my luck if they are
undocumented flea beetles). If nothin' else, I'm keeping the ground
saturated because the flea beetle likes dry soil, tough. These suckers
are going to have pneumonia by the time I'm through with them.

When I bought the "Spinosad", I was told that it was like Bt. I'll be
getting my money back tomorrow.

So go back to bed. God is in her heaven, and all is well in the garden.

Faust has left the room.


Good.

But all is not well in the garden. I headed out for my morning
lumbering thru the beds with a cuppa and 'lo and beshit, I have those
fkn flea beetles on my eggplants.......grrrrrrrr.

I headed to the nursery and got some marigolds (as I forgot to start
any this year) and set around them. They have until tomorrow evening
or they are going to be transplanted to pots and moved to the patio
area. FKN flea beetles. FKN lots of things.

FKN trip to the nursery cost me fifty bucks, 'cuz I found some new
stuff I just *had* to have.....pot stuff. Like pineapple sage and
purple variegated sage and more rosemary and more basil and rose moss
and some purple decorative peppers (like I needed more peppers to go
with the other seventy five of about twenty varieties), and more
eggplant......crap, is there no end to this sickness???

Been planting flowers and decoratives all afternoon and evening (that
was another 200 bucks at the nursery, fortunately that was OP's money)

I'm friggin' tired.

Later
Charlie


That's why I enjoy gardening so much. It relaxes me.

Besides the Scoville approach and the nematodes, I also stopped by Home
Despot (because it was handy) and loaded up on marigolds. I had already
moved some catnip in and some alyssum. Hosed down the ground around the
eggplants. Tomorrow, I'll bring in the yarrow and stinging nettle.
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"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2TzBE0lp4

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"Billy" wrote in message
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I thought that they were such cute little bugs when I first saw them.
My attitude has changed since they have turned the leaves of my
eggplants into lace. I'm planning to use the following recipe but it
won't be ready until tommorrow.

Garlic/Pepper Mixture
? 1/2 cup hot peppers of your choice
? 1/2 cup garlic cloves ( onions will also do )
? 2 cups water
Steep this mixture for 24 hours. An easy method for steeping the tea is
to combine the ingredients in a clear glass jar, seal, and set in a
sunny location. Strain and spray onto foliage.


Additionally, I check out the nursery for nematodes today. Any other
ideas?


I got rid of most of them using Diatomaceous Earth made for swimming pools.
Get it at any Home Depot. It's made from diatoms naturally found in the
sea. A huge box for something like $10. It'll last for years and years. It
kills other bugs, insects and worms also. It kills by desiccation and
irritation. Don't breathe the powder.

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"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2TzBE0lp4

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"Billy" wrote in message
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I thought that they were such cute little bugs when I first saw them.
My attitude has changed since they have turned the leaves of my
eggplants into lace. I'm planning to use the following recipe but it
won't be ready until tommorrow.

Garlic/Pepper Mixture
? 1/2 cup hot peppers of your choice
? 1/2 cup garlic cloves ( onions will also do )
? 2 cups water
Steep this mixture for 24 hours. An easy method for steeping the tea is
to combine the ingredients in a clear glass jar, seal, and set in a
sunny location. Strain and spray onto foliage.


Additionally, I check out the nursery for nematodes today. Any other
ideas?


I got rid of most of them using Diatomaceous Earth made for swimming pools.
Get it at any Home Depot. It's made from diatoms naturally found in the
sea. A huge box for something like $10. It'll last for years and years. It
kills other bugs, insects and worms also. It kills by desiccation and
irritation. Don't breathe the powder.

Yeah, it's glass. The silicon protection of diatom, the grass of the
seas.

Fortunately, my run in with flea beetles has reached a cease fire after
the garlic and pepper sauce, catnip, marigolds, alyssum, and a potted
yarrow came on the scene. I'm also keeping the soil very wet and have
unleashed nematodes on their larva.

I'm glad to hear that D.E. worked on them. I'll keep it in mind.
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2TzBE0lp4

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050688.html

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- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2TzBE0lp4

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