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We grow a considerable variety of vegetables from seed: beans, beets,
turnips, radishes, kale, sometimes corn, etc. We get good germination
rates on pretty much everything, except peas. (Snow & Sugar Snap, if it
matters.) For those, we get maybe one in ten, at best. The few that do
germinate seem to grow OK. Not that we have a lot to compare them to.

We're in central NY, zone 5-ish. We start planting (peas) around
mid-April, depending on the weather, and give up around the beginning of
June.

I kind of suspect the problem is soil temperature. But (a) you're
supposed to plant peas early (?), and (b) everything else explodes in
early June, so it seems like we've covered both ends of the temperature
range.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
G
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George wrote:

We get good germination
rates on pretty much everything, except peas. (Snow & Sugar Snap, if it
matters.) For those, we get maybe one in ten, at best. The few that do
germinate seem to grow OK.


Well, it it's any help, I planted Sugar Snaps on 5/6, and the second row on
5/13.... both germinated in about 10 days and are now just thinking about
climbing the baling twine macrame trellis I'm behind on stringing up (as
usual). I usually plant a bit earlier, but too early just has the seed rot
in the ground. They almost always germinate well here. I didn't plant
snow peas this spring, though they usually do about the same a Sugar Snap
peas. Perhaps too much moisture as well as too cool?

I'm zone 4/5, in the hills west of Schenectady, at 1400 feet elevation, so
probably comparable to your conditions. Oh yes, clay soil in between the
hunks of shale.
Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
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George wrote:

We grow a considerable variety of vegetables from seed: beans, beets,
turnips, radishes, kale, sometimes corn, etc. We get good germination
rates on pretty much everything, except peas. (Snow & Sugar Snap, if it
matters.) For those, we get maybe one in ten, at best. The few that do
germinate seem to grow OK. Not that we have a lot to compare them to.

We're in central NY, zone 5-ish. We start planting (peas) around
mid-April, depending on the weather, and give up around the beginning of
June.

I kind of suspect the problem is soil temperature. But (a) you're
supposed to plant peas early (?), and (b) everything else explodes in
early June, so it seems like we've covered both ends of the temperature
range.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
G


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ROWS

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On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:54:49 -0400, George wrote:

We grow a considerable variety of vegetables from seed: beans, beets,
turnips, radishes, kale, sometimes corn, etc. We get good germination
rates on pretty much everything, except peas. (Snow & Sugar Snap, if it
matters.) For those, we get maybe one in ten, at best. The few that do
germinate seem to grow OK. Not that we have a lot to compare them to.

We're in central NY, zone 5-ish. We start planting (peas) around
mid-April, depending on the weather, and give up around the beginning of
June.

I kind of suspect the problem is soil temperature. But (a) you're
supposed to plant peas early (?), and (b) everything else explodes in
early June, so it seems like we've covered both ends of the temperature
range.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
G


Try starting them indoors. My technique is the following,

1) Soak the seeds in a glass of water for a day.

2) Place a wet paper towel on a plate and then put the seeds on the
towel. Cover the plate with a second plate.

3) Add water to the plate once a day to keep the towel wet.

I get germination in about two days using this technique. I usually let
the seeds sit on the plate for another day or two until most of the seeds
look like they've sprouted. I then transplant into starter pots or
directly into the ground. This technique works especially well for peas
and beans. My peas are doing very well this year, I'm in Massachusetts.

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On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:54:49 -0400, George wrote:

We grow a considerable variety of vegetables from seed: beans, beets,
turnips, radishes, kale, sometimes corn, etc. We get good germination
rates on pretty much everything, except peas. (Snow & Sugar Snap, if it
matters.) For those, we get maybe one in ten, at best. The few that do
germinate seem to grow OK. Not that we have a lot to compare them to.

We're in central NY, zone 5-ish. We start planting (peas) around
mid-April, depending on the weather, and give up around the beginning of
June.

I kind of suspect the problem is soil temperature. But (a) you're
supposed to plant peas early (?), and (b) everything else explodes in
early June, so it seems like we've covered both ends of the temperature
range.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
G


Try starting them indoors. My technique is the following,

1) Soak the seeds in a glass of water for a day.

2) Place a wet paper towel on a plate and then put the seeds on the
towel. Cover the plate with a second plate.

3) Add water to the plate once a day to keep the towel wet.

I get germination in about two days using this technique. I usually let
the seeds sit on the plate for another day or two until most of the seeds
look like they've sprouted. I then transplant into starter pots or
directly into the ground. This technique works especially well for peas
and beans. My peas are doing very well this year, I'm in Massachusetts.

http://picasaweb.google.com/bjoshuar...eat=directlink


Hi All,
Start them off in a length of plastic gutter.

Richard M. Watkin.




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On Jun 12, 8:54*am, George wrote:
We grow a considerable variety of vegetables from seed: beans, beets,
turnips, radishes, kale, sometimes corn, etc. *We get good germination
rates on pretty much everything, except peas. *(Snow & Sugar Snap, if it
matters.) *For those, we get maybe one in ten, at best. *The few that do
germinate seem to grow OK. *Not that we have a lot to compare them to.

We're in central NY, zone 5-ish. *We start planting (peas) around
mid-April, depending on the weather, and give up around the beginning of
June. *

I kind of suspect the problem is soil temperature. *But (a) you're
supposed to plant peas early (?), and (b) everything else explodes in
early June, so it seems like we've covered both ends of the temperature
range.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
G


Did you buy the seeds from Walmart? We had 6 of 60 seeds DH planted
last year from there germinate. This is the 2nd or 3rd time Walmart
seeds or plants didn't either germinate or thrive. I'm done with
Walmart. We got seeds from an ag seed store this year and have a full
row of them, producing already here in DE. And we've had a cold
loooooonnggg spring.Phooey on Walmart!!
Nan in DE
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Nanzi wrote:
On Jun 12, 8:54 am, George wrote:
We grow a considerable variety of vegetables from seed: beans, beets,
turnips, radishes, kale, sometimes corn, etc. We get good germination
rates on pretty much everything, except peas. (Snow & Sugar Snap, if it
matters.) For those, we get maybe one in ten, at best. The few that do
germinate seem to grow OK. Not that we have a lot to compare them to.

We're in central NY, zone 5-ish. We start planting (peas) around
mid-April, depending on the weather, and give up around the beginning of
June.

I kind of suspect the problem is soil temperature. But (a) you're
supposed to plant peas early (?), and (b) everything else explodes in
early June, so it seems like we've covered both ends of the temperature
range.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
G


Did you buy the seeds from Walmart? We had 6 of 60 seeds DH planted
last year from there germinate. This is the 2nd or 3rd time Walmart
seeds or plants didn't either germinate or thrive. I'm done with
Walmart. We got seeds from an ag seed store this year and have a full
row of them, producing already here in DE. And we've had a cold
loooooonnggg spring.Phooey on Walmart!!
Nan in DE


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Nanzi wrote:
On Jun 12, 8:54 am, George wrote:
We grow a considerable variety of vegetables from seed: beans, beets,
turnips, radishes, kale, sometimes corn, etc. We get good germination
rates on pretty much everything, except peas. (Snow & Sugar Snap, if it
matters.) For those, we get maybe one in ten, at best. The few that do
germinate seem to grow OK. Not that we have a lot to compare them to.

We're in central NY, zone 5-ish. We start planting (peas) around
mid-April, depending on the weather, and give up around the beginning of
June.

I kind of suspect the problem is soil temperature. But (a) you're
supposed to plant peas early (?), and (b) everything else explodes in
early June, so it seems like we've covered both ends of the temperature
range.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
G


Did you buy the seeds from Walmart? We had 6 of 60 seeds DH planted
last year from there germinate. This is the 2nd or 3rd time Walmart
seeds or plants didn't either germinate or thrive. I'm done with
Walmart. We got seeds from an ag seed store this year and have a full
row of them, producing already here in DE. And we've had a cold
loooooonnggg spring.Phooey on Walmart!!
Nan in DE


"DH"=??

EJ in NJ


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Ernie Willson wrote:

Nanzi wrote:
On Jun 12, 8:54 am, George wrote:
We grow a considerable variety of vegetables from seed: beans, beets,
turnips, radishes, kale, sometimes corn, etc. We get good germination
rates on pretty much everything, except peas. (Snow & Sugar Snap, if it
matters.) For those, we get maybe one in ten, at best. The few that do
germinate seem to grow OK. Not that we have a lot to compare them to.

We're in central NY, zone 5-ish. We start planting (peas) around
mid-April, depending on the weather, and give up around the beginning of
June.

I kind of suspect the problem is soil temperature. But (a) you're
supposed to plant peas early (?), and (b) everything else explodes in
early June, so it seems like we've covered both ends of the temperature
range.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
G


Did you buy the seeds from Walmart? We had 6 of 60 seeds DH planted
last year from there germinate. This is the 2nd or 3rd time Walmart
seeds or plants didn't either germinate or thrive. I'm done with
Walmart. We got seeds from an ag seed store this year and have a full
row of them, producing already here in DE. And we've had a cold
loooooonnggg spring.Phooey on Walmart!!
Nan in DE


"DH"=??

EJ in NJ


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On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:17:50 -0400, Ernie Willson
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Nanzi wrote:
On Jun 12, 8:54 am, George wrote:
We grow a considerable variety of vegetables from seed: beans, beets,
turnips, radishes, kale, sometimes corn, etc. We get good germination
rates on pretty much everything, except peas. (Snow & Sugar Snap, if it
matters.) For those, we get maybe one in ten, at best. The few that do
germinate seem to grow OK. Not that we have a lot to compare them to.

We're in central NY, zone 5-ish. We start planting (peas) around
mid-April, depending on the weather, and give up around the beginning of
June.

I kind of suspect the problem is soil temperature. But (a) you're
supposed to plant peas early (?), and (b) everything else explodes in
early June, so it seems like we've covered both ends of the temperature
range.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
G

Did you buy the seeds from Walmart? We had 6 of 60 seeds DH planted
last year from there germinate. This is the 2nd or 3rd time Walmart
seeds or plants didn't either germinate or thrive. I'm done with
Walmart. We got seeds from an ag seed store this year and have a full
row of them, producing already here in DE. And we've had a cold
loooooonnggg spring.Phooey on Walmart!!
Nan in DE


"DH"=??

EJ in NJ


D = your choice of Dear, Damn, Darling, Despicable, Debauched, Daft,
Daffy, Dazed, Daydreaming, Dazzling, etc.
H = Husband.

RR in ON


Hey, I represent that remark.
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is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

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On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:54:49 -0400, George wrote:

We grow a considerable variety of vegetables from seed: beans, beets,
turnips, radishes, kale, sometimes corn, etc. We get good germination
rates on pretty much everything, except peas. (Snow & Sugar Snap, if it
matters.) For those, we get maybe one in ten, at best. The few that do
germinate seem to grow OK. Not that we have a lot to compare them to.

We're in central NY, zone 5-ish. We start planting (peas) around
mid-April, depending on the weather, and give up around the beginning of
June.

I kind of suspect the problem is soil temperature. But (a) you're
supposed to plant peas early (?), and (b) everything else explodes in
early June, so it seems like we've covered both ends of the temperature
range.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
G


Try starting them indoors. My technique is the following,

1) Soak the seeds in a glass of water for a day.

2) Place a wet paper towel on a plate and then put the seeds on the
towel. Cover the plate with a second plate.

3) Add water to the plate once a day to keep the towel wet.


Thanks for that. It seems to be working pretty well, so far: 8 of 11
germinated. I'll stick them in the ground, and see what happens.

G
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