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I'm quite new to edible gardening and this year I have grown from seed some Californian Wonder Pepper plants and a Scotch Bonnet plant. I noticed recently though, that they have a lot of black flies on them and some of the leaves have curled up slightly, so I bought some insecticide spray - "Westland Bug Attack Defence" - the only thing is that rather foolishly I sprayed the plants and THEN read the instructions only to find a line of text which says (not to be used on edible plants) - D'oh! Now I know that some plants are probably more affected such as lettuce (?) but how critical do you think this may be for pepper plants which are only just at the flowering stage?
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J R HARTLEY wrote:

Hi,
I'm quite new to edible gardening and this year I have grown from seed
some Californian Wonder Pepper plants and a Scotch Bonnet plant. I
noticed recently though, that they have a lot of black flies on them
and some of the leaves have curled up slightly, so I bought some
insecticide spray - "Westland Bug Attack Defence" - the only thing is
that rather foolishly I sprayed the plants and THEN read the
instructions only to find a line of text which says (not to be used on
edible plants) - D'oh! Now I know that some plants are probably more
affected such as lettuce (?) but how critical do you think this may be
for pepper plants which are only just at the flowering stage?


You believed them when they said this product would get rid your pests
(no mention of collateral damage), but now when they warn against eating
the sprayed plants, you doubt them? Bwahahaha. I think this is what is
called the Darwinian moment. Go ahead and make my day ;O))) Bwahahahaha
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now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the moment of
conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7843430.stm
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Glad you found it so funny, maybe you should get out more often, meet some friends?

It's not a big deal, if I can't eat the produce, then I can't eat the produce, simple as that. I just wondered if anyone could give me an informed answer that's all.
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On Jul 20, J R HARTLEY wrote:
[...] how critical do you think this may be for pepper plants which
are only just at the flowering stage?


Well, you sprayed the plant but not the part of the plant you are
going to eat. I think the worst it could do is shorten your lifespan
by a few years. Contact the company that makes the spray and ask them.
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J R HARTLEY wrote:

Glad you found it so funny, maybe you should get out more often, meet
some friends?

Pathetic would be closer to the mark. Sort of like a guy who orders
halibut and a nice Chablis to accompany it, and then smears habanero
sauce all over it without asking what the sauce is. It just never ceases
to amaze me, how long some people manage to stay alive.

It's not a big deal, if I can't eat the produce, then I can't eat the
produce, simple as that. I just wondered if anyone could give me an
informed answer that's all.


How about someone who has a big laboratory, and is legally libel to any
illness caused by their product? They should have an informed answer for
you.

Or you could google:
Avermectin, MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet), e.g.
http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_...Rec_Id=PC33818
or
Thiamethoxam, MSDS
http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_...Rec_Id=PC36879

But then, these (above) lack the charm of being unattributed, anecdotal,
and word of mouth.
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conception until death." - Rachel Carson

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I bought some insecticide spray - "Westland Bug Attack Defence" ) but how
critical do you think this may be
for pepper plants which are only just at the flowering stage?



Check your product ingredient list to ensure Thiametoxam and Abamectin are
what we are talking here also remember that this is systemic so it will
presist for a while:

http://www.wickes.co.uk/content/ebiz...shh/199207.pdf

http://www.dirtdoctor.com/organic/ga...estion/id/557/




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"J R HARTLEY" wrote in message
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Glad you found it so funny, maybe you should get out more often, meet
some friends?

It's not a big deal, if I can't eat the produce, then I can't eat the
produce, simple as that. I just wondered if anyone could give me an
informed answer that's all.



http://www.wickes.co.uk/content/ebiz...shh/199207.pdf

http://www.dirtdoctor.com/organic/ga...estion/id/557/





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On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:26:09 +0100, J R HARTLEY wrote:

Hi,
I'm quite new to edible gardening and this year I have grown from seed
some Californian Wonder Pepper plants and a Scotch Bonnet plant. I
noticed recently though, that they have a lot of black flies on them and
some of the leaves have curled up slightly, so I bought some insecticide
spray - "Westland Bug Attack Defence" - the only thing is that rather
foolishly I sprayed the plants and THEN read the instructions only to
find a line of text which says (not to be used on edible plants) - D'oh!
Now I know that some plants are probably more affected such as lettuce
(?) but how critical do you think this may be for pepper plants which
are only just at the flowering stage?


If you want to eat produce grown with poison, you can buy it at the local
mega-store. Your home garden should be poison free.

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