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Bill who putters wrote:

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Two years ago GMO crops were slammed by a report from the University of
Kansas, which incorporated information from the University Nebraska as
well, that stated GMO crops yielded only 90% of the best conventional
crop's yeild (?).
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/04/20/8405
For those with a problem with Common Dreams" I should note that this
article first appeared Sunday, April 20, 2008 in The Independent/UK.

This latest report address the older study: "The report said that when
genetically engineered crops were first introduced (1996 according to
the article, early 1990s according to Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food) some had lower
yields than conventional varieties, a finding often cited by critics.
But the report said that newer studies showed either a modest increase
in yield or a neutral effect." So says the National Research Council,
which is affiliated with the National Academy of Sciences and provides
advice to the nation under a Congressional charter.

This is a privately owned NPO. I would appreciate any information on
funding.

So, conflicting reports on GMO yields.
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"Overuse of this seductively simple approach to weed control is starting
to backfire. Use of Roundup, or its generic equivalent, glyphosate, has
skyrocketed to the point that weeds are rapidly becoming resistant to
the chemical. That is rendering the technology less useful, requiring
farmers to start using additional herbicides, some of them more toxic
than glyphosate."

Resistant requiring more and more glyphosate.
"The report said that the use of Roundup Ready crops has led to a huge
increase in the spraying of glyphosate but a nearly concomitant decrease
in the use of other herbicides."
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Frontline's "Seeds of Suicide: India's Desperate Farmers" has detailed
some of the struggles facing the Indian farmer.[84] The transition to
using the latest pest-resistant seeds and the necessary herbicides has
been difficult. Farmers have used genetically modified seeds promoted by
Cargill and Monsanto hoping for greater yields. Resulting debts from
such gambles with genetically modified seeds have led some farmers into
the equivalent of indentured servitude.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto#Farmer_suicides
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Lastly,
"The Justice Department is investigating whether Monsanto, which has
patents on some of the fundamental technology including the Roundup
Ready system, is violating antitrust laws, unduly increasing prices or
hindering innovation.

The National Research Council report addresses this issue briefly
without mentioning Monsanto. It says that issues of proprietary terms
³has not adversely affected the economic welfare of farmers who adopt
G.E. crops.² But it said there is some evidence that the availability of
nonengineered crops ³may be restricted for some farmers.²
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Translation: There aren't sufficient conventional seeds to fill farmers
demands.
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- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html

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Billy wrote:


The National Research Council report addresses this issue briefly
without mentioning Monsanto. It says that issues of proprietary terms
³has not adversely affected the economic welfare of farmers who adopt
G.E. crops.² But it said there is some evidence that the availability of
nonengineered crops ³may be restricted for some farmers.²
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Translation: There aren't sufficient conventional seeds to fill farmers
demands.

Or our bellies. Nice dream to control weeds in depleted soils but just
like how our plant food went west the souls and nutrients must prevail
or we get empty food that looks good and BG just go up.
I thought about soil vs. souls and it seems to resonate somehow.

Stuff dark and rich clings to my mind
Move it about and I must help it.
A seed a seed
Nothing more than a promise to
Enjoy tomorrows light.

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Bill Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

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Monsanto was doing white papers on the post glyphosate era, years ago.

Unfortunately they're not as stupid as they are evil and unscrupulous.

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phorbin wrote:

In article ,
says...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/14/bu...ent/14crop.htm
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Monsanto was doing white papers on the post glyphosate era, years ago.

Unfortunately they're not as stupid as they are evil and unscrupulous.

http://www.fedcoseeds.com/seeds/monsanto.htm
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- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html

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199.per.connect.net.au, says...
In article ,
phorbin wrote:

In article ,
says...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/14/bu...ent/14crop.htm
l?hp

Monsanto was doing white papers on the post glyphosate era, years ago.

Unfortunately they're not as stupid as they are evil and unscrupulous.

http://www.fedcoseeds.com/seeds/monsanto.htm

Precisely.