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ZeroZero 21-04-2010 06:08 PM

What ate my brassicas??!
 
I have just started gardening after years in a flat/prison.
I have built eight raised beds and planted some brassicas in most of them. All went well for a couple of weeks and the plants established, then virtually all the crop dissapeared overnight.
Whatever ate them left the peas and the broad bean plants not to mention strawberries. It went for the outer leaf parts leaving the stalk part standing. It did leave the red brassicas - mostly - having a bit of a nibble, and it seemed to go through all the beds metghodically.

What is it?Pigoens? Mice?
I dont think its slugs its all done in a night..

Is it worth leaving the established but denuded plants or should Ijust get some new plants?

My guess is the only answer is to cover with old plastic bottles until the plants get bigger

all advice welcome

Steve Peek 21-04-2010 10:08 PM

What ate my brassicas??!
 
I think you have 2 choices, either a rabbit or a ground hog. I'd bet on the
rabbit because ground hogs love beans as well as the basics. You need a good
fence.
Steve
"ZeroZero" wrote in message
...

I have just started gardening after years in a flat/prison.
I have built eight raised beds and planted some brassicas in most of
them. All went well for a couple of weeks and the plants established,
then virtually all the crop dissapeared overnight.
Whatever ate them left the peas and the broad bean plants not to mention
strawberries. It went for the outer leaf parts leaving the stalk part
standing. It did leave the red brassicas - mostly - having a bit of a
nibble, and it seemed to go through all the beds metghodically.

What is it?Pigoens? Mice?
I dont think its slugs its all done in a night..

Is it worth leaving the established but denuded plants or should Ijust
get some new plants?

My guess is the only answer is to cover with old plastic bottles until
the plants get bigger

all advice welcome




--
ZeroZero




David Hare-Scott[_2_] 21-04-2010 11:30 PM

What ate my brassicas??!
 
ZeroZero wrote:
I have just started gardening after years in a flat/prison.
I have built eight raised beds and planted some brassicas in most of
them. All went well for a couple of weeks and the plants established,
then virtually all the crop dissapeared overnight.
Whatever ate them left the peas and the broad bean plants not to
mention strawberries. It went for the outer leaf parts leaving the
stalk part standing. It did leave the red brassicas - mostly - having
a bit of a nibble, and it seemed to go through all the beds
metghodically.

What is it?Pigoens? Mice?
I dont think its slugs its all done in a night..

Is it worth leaving the established but denuded plants or should Ijust
get some new plants?

My guess is the only answer is to cover with old plastic bottles until
the plants get bigger

all advice welcome


Check the corpses for grubs. Cabbage moth larvae can work very fast if you
don't notice them and let them get started. If that is what it is you have
several options.

David


phorbin 22-04-2010 12:30 AM

What ate my brassicas??!
 
In article ,
says...
I think you have 2 choices, either a rabbit or a ground hog. I'd bet on the
rabbit because ground hogs love beans as well as the basics. You need a good
fence.
Steve
"ZeroZero" wrote in message
...

I have just started gardening after years in a flat/prison.
I have built eight raised beds and planted some brassicas in most of
them. All went well for a couple of weeks and the plants established,
then virtually all the crop dissapeared overnight.
Whatever ate them left the peas and the broad bean plants not to mention
strawberries. It went for the outer leaf parts leaving the stalk part
standing. It did leave the red brassicas - mostly - having a bit of a
nibble, and it seemed to go through all the beds metghodically.

What is it?Pigoens? Mice?
I dont think its slugs its all done in a night..

Is it worth leaving the established but denuded plants or should Ijust
get some new plants?

My guess is the only answer is to cover with old plastic bottles until
the plants get bigger


Around here, groundhogs go for the brassicas first. Rabbits go for
lettuce and then the peas and then the beans.

My bet is on rabbits too because they disappeared 'overnight.'

The more permanent solution is a 1 inch mesh chicken wire fence sunk
into the ground about 6 or so inches with an 'L' bend outward and about
a foot of fence under the ground. Any gate has to follow suit, allow no
gap to get through and have a lintel to attach the chicken wire to go
under the ground. -- Don't be tempted to buy a larger mesh. Young
rabbits can get through larger mesh chicken wire.

I thought groundhogs were North American.

ZeroZero 22-04-2010 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phorbin (Post 884372)
In article ,
says...
I think you have 2 choices, either a rabbit or a ground hog. I'd bet on the
rabbit because ground hogs love beans as well as the basics. You need a good
fence.
Steve
"ZeroZero"
wrote in message
...

I have just started gardening after years in a flat/prison.
I have built eight raised beds and planted some brassicas in most of
them. All went well for a couple of weeks and the plants established,
then virtually all the crop dissapeared overnight.
Whatever ate them left the peas and the broad bean plants not to mention
strawberries. It went for the outer leaf parts leaving the stalk part
standing. It did leave the red brassicas - mostly - having a bit of a
nibble, and it seemed to go through all the beds metghodically.

What is it?Pigoens? Mice?
I dont think its slugs its all done in a night..

Is it worth leaving the established but denuded plants or should Ijust
get some new plants?

My guess is the only answer is to cover with old plastic bottles until
the plants get bigger


Around here, groundhogs go for the brassicas first. Rabbits go for
lettuce and then the peas and then the beans.

My bet is on rabbits too because they disappeared 'overnight.'

The more permanent solution is a 1 inch mesh chicken wire fence sunk
into the ground about 6 or so inches with an 'L' bend outward and about
a foot of fence under the ground. Any gate has to follow suit, allow no
gap to get through and have a lintel to attach the chicken wire to go
under the ground. -- Don't be tempted to buy a larger mesh. Young
rabbits can get through larger mesh chicken wire.

I thought groundhogs were North American.



I am guessing pigeons! The pigeons ate all the groundhogs in the UK a long time ago

phorbin 23-04-2010 12:36 PM

What ate my brassicas??!
 
In article , ZeroZero.646afe6
@gardenbanter.co.uk says...

I thought groundhogs were North American.


I am guessing pigeons! The pigeons ate all the groundhogs in the UK a
long time ago


Well then,

....I wish we had at least two of your pigeons.

....preferably not a breeding pair.

NorfolkGardener 02-05-2010 10:18 AM

If the plants were relatively young, slugs could be the problem, in which case I would recommend Nemaslug Slug Killer, which saved my brassicas last year.

However if the plants were established, it sounds like too much damage to be slugs. Rabbits are hugely destructive and likely to be the issue here, pigeons are more likely to strip the tops rather than eating the whole plant. Unfortunately to control rabbit damage you only have two options, fence the whole area (certainly possible with raised beds) or shoot them which may or may not be possible in your location!


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