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zxcvbob 04-06-2010 04:28 AM

Onion sets
 
A few of my onion sets have sent up flower stalks. Should I pull them
now for green onions, or will the bulbs continue to grow? (I know they
won't keep if I harvest them in the fall)

Next year I'll sort them by size before planting, and only plant the
tiny ones shallow in a row for big onions, and plant the bigger ones
deep and in a bunch for green onions.

I know seeds is the way to grow big onions, but I haven't had much luck
with that -- except one year when I planted leeks...

Bob

Pat Kiewicz[_2_] 04-06-2010 11:37 AM

Onion sets
 
zxcvbob said:


A few of my onion sets have sent up flower stalks. Should I pull them
now for green onions, or will the bulbs continue to grow? (I know they
won't keep if I harvest them in the fall)


I'd pull the ones with flower stalks for green onions while the stalks are
still tender.

Next year I'll sort them by size before planting, and only plant the
tiny ones shallow in a row for big onions, and plant the bigger ones
deep and in a bunch for green onions.

I know seeds is the way to grow big onions, but I haven't had much luck
with that -- except one year when I planted leeks...


Onion seed needs to be very fresh for good germination.

Seedling onions transplant pretty easily, so can be started in pots.
Wash the potting soil off the roots and tease the plants apart, but
don't get too paranoid about saving all the roots. The little onions
are pretty tough. (It helps keep things managable if you trim the
tops back a bit a week or so before you intend to plant them out.)

Or, you can mail order bundles of onion seedlings. (This is what
I do now, after years of starting them from seeds.)


--
Pat in Plymouth MI

"Vegetables are like bombs packed tight with all kinds of important
nutrients..." --Largo Potter, Valkyria Chronicles

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Pavel314[_2_] 04-06-2010 06:41 PM

Onion sets
 
On Jun 4, 6:37*am, Pat Kiewicz wrote:
zxcvbob said:



A few of my onion sets have sent up flower stalks. *Should I pull them
now for green onions, or will the bulbs continue to grow? *(I know they
won't keep if I harvest them in the fall)


I'd pull the ones with flower stalks for green onions while the stalks are
still tender.



Next year I'll sort them by size before planting, and only plant the
tiny ones shallow in a row for big onions, and plant the bigger ones
deep and in a bunch for green onions.


I know seeds is the way to grow big onions, but I haven't had much luck
with that -- except one year when I planted leeks...


Onion seed needs to be very fresh for good germination. *

Seedling onions transplant pretty easily, so can be started in pots.
Wash the potting soil off the roots and tease the plants apart, but
don't get too paranoid about saving all the roots. *The little onions
are pretty tough. *(It helps keep things managable if you trim the
tops back a bit a week or so before you intend to plant them out.)

Or, you can mail order bundles of onion seedlings. (This is what
I do now, after years of starting them from seeds.)

--
Pat in Plymouth MI

"Vegetables are like bombs packed tight with all kinds of important
nutrients..." * * --Largo Potter, Valkyria *Chronicles

email valid but not regularly monitored


My wife lets some of the onions stay in the ground over the winter.
We're in the Baltimore area so it does freeze around here, although
not as severe as Michigan. She digs up the onions in the spring as
needed for the table.

Paul

zxcvbob 04-06-2010 07:08 PM

Onion sets
 
wrote:

For green onions, I succession-plant those little white spherical
onions that are so ubiquitous on seed stands; I don't know what they're
called. At any rate, I plant them really closely together in containers
near other culinary herbs so that for most of the year (except for
mid-July through mid-Sept) DW and other interested neighboring cooks
have a ready supply of tender green shoots. I pull them ruthlessly as
they mature in order to use the space for tender new ones.



My grandmother used to have "multiplying onions" that never bloomed
and never went dormant -- this was in Houston, Texas. They looked
like scallions, but the taste was a little different. (I figured out
later that they taste like shallots.) They just kept dividing like
chives and the clump got bigger and bigger. You'd pull up a clump,
and break one off and replant it.

I've tried planting shallots and using them green. They taste right,
but they don't endlessly multiply. I wonder if day length has
anything to do with it? In Houston, the days never get much longer
than 14 hours, and up here they get well over 16 hrs long. Maybe what
she had was a long-day variety of "potato onion", or a confused shallot.

Bob

Pavel314[_2_] 07-06-2010 04:01 PM

Onion sets
 
On Jun 4, 2:08*pm, zxcvbob wrote:
wrote:
* *For green onions, I succession-plant those little white spherical
onions that are so ubiquitous on seed stands; I don't know what they're
called. At any rate, I plant them really closely together in containers
near other culinary herbs so that for most of the year (except for
mid-July through mid-Sept) DW and other interested neighboring cooks
have a ready supply of tender green shoots. I pull them ruthlessly as
they mature in order to use the space for tender new ones.


My grandmother used to have "multiplying onions" that never bloomed
and never went dormant -- this was in Houston, Texas. *They looked
like scallions, but the taste was a little different. (I figured out
later that they taste like shallots.) *They just kept dividing like
chives and the clump got bigger and bigger. *You'd pull up a clump,
and break one off and replant it.

I've tried planting shallots and using them green. *They taste right,
but they don't endlessly multiply. *I wonder if day length has
anything to do with it? *In Houston, the days never get much longer
than 14 hours, and up here they get well over 16 hrs long. *Maybe what
she had was a long-day variety of "potato onion", or a confused shallot.

Bob


If you want to see a strange onion, do a Google image search on
"Egyptian Walking Onion." We had some in the garden a couple of years
ago.

Paul

zxcvbob 07-06-2010 04:40 PM

Onion sets
 
Pavel314 wrote:
On Jun 4, 2:08 pm, zxcvbob wrote:
wrote:
For green onions, I succession-plant those little white spherical
onions that are so ubiquitous on seed stands; I don't know what they're
called. At any rate, I plant them really closely together in containers
near other culinary herbs so that for most of the year (except for
mid-July through mid-Sept) DW and other interested neighboring cooks
have a ready supply of tender green shoots. I pull them ruthlessly as
they mature in order to use the space for tender new ones.

My grandmother used to have "multiplying onions" that never bloomed
and never went dormant -- this was in Houston, Texas. They looked
like scallions, but the taste was a little different. (I figured out
later that they taste like shallots.) They just kept dividing like
chives and the clump got bigger and bigger. You'd pull up a clump,
and break one off and replant it.

I've tried planting shallots and using them green. They taste right,
but they don't endlessly multiply. I wonder if day length has
anything to do with it? In Houston, the days never get much longer
than 14 hours, and up here they get well over 16 hrs long. Maybe what
she had was a long-day variety of "potato onion", or a confused shallot.

Bob


If you want to see a strange onion, do a Google image search on
"Egyptian Walking Onion." We had some in the garden a couple of years
ago.

Paul



Yep, I've seen those. They're not what I'm looking for. Since
posting previously, I figured out that what Grandma had was probably a
shallot variety called "Louisiana Evergreen." (no idea if they'll grow
up here where the days are too long and the winters are too cold)

Bob

Wilson[_2_] 08-06-2010 08:42 PM

Onion sets
 
On 06/07/10 11:01 AM, sometime in the recent past Pavel314 posted this:
On Jun 4, 2:08 pm, wrote:
wrote:
For green onions, I succession-plant those little white spherical
onions that are so ubiquitous on seed stands; I don't know what they're
called. At any rate, I plant them really closely together in containers
near other culinary herbs so that for most of the year (except for
mid-July through mid-Sept) DW and other interested neighboring cooks
have a ready supply of tender green shoots. I pull them ruthlessly as
they mature in order to use the space for tender new ones.


My grandmother used to have "multiplying onions" that never bloomed
and never went dormant -- this was in Houston, Texas. They looked
like scallions, but the taste was a little different. (I figured out
later that they taste like shallots.) They just kept dividing like
chives and the clump got bigger and bigger. You'd pull up a clump,
and break one off and replant it.

I've tried planting shallots and using them green. They taste right,
but they don't endlessly multiply. I wonder if day length has
anything to do with it? In Houston, the days never get much longer
than 14 hours, and up here they get well over 16 hrs long. Maybe what
she had was a long-day variety of "potato onion", or a confused shallot.

Bob


If you want to see a strange onion, do a Google image search on
"Egyptian Walking Onion." We had some in the garden a couple of years
ago.

Paul

Had some Egyptian Walking Onions for a while too. I saw some garlics on TV
the other night that appeared to have cloves at the top of the stalk too.
Not sure what they were. But the EW Onions you mention were very strong, I
mean tasting onions for days strong, so we didn't use them much. When I
think of shallots, I think of mild, not overpowering onions.

--
Wilson 44.69, -67.3


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