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Hello,

I'm hoping for some input. I'm pretty much done gardening this year. .
I've got a few tomatoes and peppers left. My eggplants did awesome. I'm
looking forward to next year already and my improvements. Here's my biggest
issue to overcome. I cant tell when my veggies are ready to be pulled. I
left the corn too long to the point the kernals got a little crinkly and
soft. The eggplants were lenient but should of been pulled. Some lettuce
bolted then I realized it was time. Some yellow tomatoes got real soft
last month. . I pulled some onion sets real early. Then lost the rest to
weeds mostly.

I've managed to get the weeds in check . The piles of hay and ground cover
actually worked really well. Ruth Stout wasn't full of crap. My work load
on weeds. was down about 75% .

Bug issues were not an issue . I only had bugs on fallen tomatoes. Flea
beetles early on the eggplants. And Japanese beetles were held in check by
sacrificing the grapes for the corn.

I have more trouble with ants in the house then bugs in the garden.





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"DogDiesel" wrote:

Hello,

I'm hoping for some input. I'm pretty much done gardening this year. .
I've got a few tomatoes and peppers left. My eggplants did awesome. I'm
looking forward to next year already and my improvements. Here's my biggest
issue to overcome. I cant tell when my veggies are ready to be pulled. I
left the corn too long to the point the kernals got a little crinkly and
soft. The eggplants were lenient but should of been pulled. Some lettuce
bolted then I realized it was time. Some yellow tomatoes got real soft
last month. . I pulled some onion sets real early. Then lost the rest to
weeds mostly.

I've managed to get the weeds in check . The piles of hay and ground cover
actually worked really well. Ruth Stout wasn't full of crap. My work load
on weeds. was down about 75% .

Bug issues were not an issue . I only had bugs on fallen tomatoes. Flea
beetles early on the eggplants. And Japanese beetles were held in check by
sacrificing the grapes for the corn.

I have more trouble with ants in the house then bugs in the garden.


Look into oil of Pennyroyal which deters and sugar with boric acid
which kills.

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In article ,
"DogDiesel" wrote:

Hello,

I'm hoping for some input. I'm pretty much done gardening this year.
.
I've got a few tomatoes and peppers left. My eggplants did awesome.
I'm
looking forward to next year already and my improvements. Here's my
biggest
issue to overcome. I cant tell when my veggies are ready to be
pulled. I
left the corn too long to the point the kernals got a little crinkly
and
soft. The eggplants were lenient but should of been pulled. Some
lettuce
bolted then I realized it was time. Some yellow tomatoes got real
soft
last month. . I pulled some onion sets real early. Then lost the
rest to
weeds mostly.

I've managed to get the weeds in check . The piles of hay and ground
cover
actually worked really well. Ruth Stout wasn't full of crap. My work
load
on weeds. was down about 75% .

Bug issues were not an issue . I only had bugs on fallen tomatoes.
Flea
beetles early on the eggplants. And Japanese beetles were held in
check by
sacrificing the grapes for the corn.

I have more trouble with ants in the house then bugs in the garden.


Look into oil of Pennyroyal which deters and sugar with boric acid
which kills.


Terro ant killer is sugar/boric acid, works well. Wallmart carries it.
Or you can mix your own.

Cheers



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DogDiesel wrote:
Hello,

I'm hoping for some input. I'm pretty much done gardening this year. .
I've got a few tomatoes and peppers left. My eggplants did
awesome. I'm looking forward to next year already and my
improvements. Here's my biggest issue to overcome. I cant tell when
my veggies are ready to be pulled.


Some are ready when immature, some when mature but time isn't very
critical, some should be just right. There are "rules" for determining when
some are ready but these are not always so easy for everybody to apply.
Mainly it's a matter of practice and fitting your growing and eating habits
together.


I left the corn too long to the
point the kernals got a little crinkly and soft.


This one comes up every few months, look through some history of the NG.

The eggplants were lenient but should of been pulled.


When the rate of growth slows nearly to a stop cut them, the size that this
will be depends on conditions and cultivar.

Some lettuce bolted then I realized it was time.


Everybody gets caught on this sometimes. One day they look fine, next day
bolted. Try continuously cutting the outer leaves, you get plenty of salad
and when they come to the end you haven't lost anything. More open cultivars
are better for this. Also you will have less problem if you avoid growing
lettuce in the heat of summer.

Some yellow tomatoes got real soft last month.


For some fruits like tomatoes colour is a pretty reliable guide to ripeness.

I pulled some onion sets real early. Then lost the rest to
weeds mostly.
I've managed to get the weeds in check . The piles of hay and ground
cover actually worked really well. Ruth Stout wasn't full of crap.
My work load on weeds. was down about 75% .


I don't know Ruth but mulch is almost always good.

Bug issues were not an issue . I only had bugs on fallen tomatoes.
Flea beetles early on the eggplants. And Japanese beetles were held
in check by sacrificing the grapes for the corn.

I have more trouble with ants in the house then bugs in the garden.


You are lucky.

David

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On 9/15/2010 8:49 PM, DogDiesel wrote:
Hello,

I'm hoping for some input. I'm pretty much done gardening this year. .
I've got a few tomatoes and peppers left. My eggplants did awesome. I'm
looking forward to next year already and my improvements. Here's my biggest
issue to overcome. I cant tell when my veggies are ready to be pulled. I
left the corn too long to the point the kernals got a little crinkly and
soft. The eggplants were lenient but should of been pulled. Some lettuce
bolted then I realized it was time. Some yellow tomatoes got real soft
last month. . I pulled some onion sets real early. Then lost the rest to
weeds mostly.

I've managed to get the weeds in check . The piles of hay and ground cover
actually worked really well. Ruth Stout wasn't full of crap. My work load
on weeds. was down about 75% .

Bug issues were not an issue . I only had bugs on fallen tomatoes. Flea
beetles early on the eggplants. And Japanese beetles were held in check by
sacrificing the grapes for the corn.

I have more trouble with ants in the house then bugs in the garden.



Ditto's with the ants but surrounding the house foundations with the ant
poisons got rid of them.

The current bug bothering us is the stink bug. Lower temperatures are
bringing them indoors where they hide until spring.



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On Sep 15, 8:49*pm, "DogDiesel" wrote:
Hello,

I'm hoping for some input. I'm pretty much done gardening this year. *.
I've got a few tomatoes and peppers left. *My eggplants did awesome. I'm
looking forward to next year already and my improvements. *Here's my biggest
issue to overcome. I cant tell when my veggies are ready to be pulled. I
left the corn too long to the point the kernals *got a little crinkly and
soft. *The eggplants were lenient but should of been pulled. * *Some lettuce
bolted then I realized it was time. * Some yellow tomatoes got real soft
last month. . *I pulled some onion sets real early. *Then lost the rest to
weeds mostly.

I've managed to get the weeds in check . The piles of hay *and ground cover
actually worked really well. *Ruth Stout wasn't full of crap. My work load
on weeds. was down about 75% .

Bug issues were not an issue . I only had bugs on fallen tomatoes. Flea
beetles early on *the eggplants. *And Japanese beetles were held in check by
sacrificing the grapes for the corn.

I have more trouble with ants in the house then bugs in the garden.


For corn you pull back the husk a little and pinch open one of the
kernels. If the liquid is clear it's not ready and needs to go
another day or two. If the liquid is milky then it's ready. If
there's little or no liquid then it's too late.
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:48:53 -0400, Frank
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The current bug bothering us is the stink bug. Lower temperatures are
bringing them indoors where they hide until spring.


Yep, and each year it's getting worse.

My shopvac was on overtime last week.

Worse, they are starting to affect the apples and other orchard crops
here.



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JustTom wrote:
Frank wrote:


The current bug bothering us is the stink bug. Lower temperatures
are bringing them indoors where they hide until spring.


Yep, and each year it's getting worse.

My shopvac was on overtime last week.

Worse, they are starting to affect the apples and other orchard crops
here.


what eats them?


songbird
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songbird said:


JustTom wrote:
Frank wrote:


The current bug bothering us is the stink bug. Lower temperatures
are bringing them indoors where they hide until spring.


Yep, and each year it's getting worse.

My shopvac was on overtime last week.

Worse, they are starting to affect the apples and other orchard crops
here.


what eats them?


Some critter they left behind in Asia. These stink bugs are recent (and
unfortunate) imports. First they attack the crops, then they move in
to houses for the winter and stink up the joint.

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bugs-101002/20101002/?hub=TorontoNewHome

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On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 20:45:13 -0400, "songbird"
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what eats them?


Not much of anything. They are a Chinese import that doesn't have
seem to have any natural predators here and they are thriving.

None of my chickens will touch them.

I raise Muscovy ducks, and they seem to eat them from time to time,
but don't actively pursue them.

I've heard guineas will eat them, but don't have any to verify.

I had the poor taste to find a log home charming. Unfortunately, so
do stink bugs and the endless cracks and crevices are a haven for
them.


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Everyone was caught this time. One day, they have very good the next day bolted. Try to continue to cut the outer leaves, you will get a lot of salad when they come to an end, you do not lose anything. Variety of more open this is better.
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I only insects, tomatoes down. Flea beetles early eggplant. The Japanese beetles were held in check at the expense of the grapes for the corn. I have more trouble with ants in the house, then the error in the garden.
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