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Bennewby 29-05-2011 01:56 PM

Slugs
 
Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without using slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy but I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug trails on them

Snag 29-05-2011 04:52 PM

Slugs
 
Bennewby wrote:
Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without
using slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and
healthy but I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and
there are slug trails on them




--
Bennewby


Small saucers of beer. Quart-size jar lids work well .

--
Snag
Learning keeps
you young !



Suzanne 29-05-2011 10:17 PM

Slugs
 

"Bennewby" wrote in message
...

Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without using
slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy but
I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug
trails on them



Crush up some eggshells and sprinkle them around the plants.

Also try gently pulling apart steel wool pads and placing them on the ground
around the plants.
--S.


David Hare-Scott[_2_] 29-05-2011 11:30 PM

Slugs
 
On Sun, 29 May 2011 15:17:36 -0600, "Suzanne"
wrote:


"Bennewby" wrote in message
...

Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without using
slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy but
I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug
trails on them



Crush up some eggshells and sprinkle them around the plants.


The traditional remedy is ground razor blades not eggshell as eggshell
will raise the pH of your soil. For those who don't shave try broken
glass.

Also try gently pulling apart steel wool pads and placing them on the ground
around the plants.
--S.



Slugs laugh at wool of all kinds.

Push toothpicks into the soil about halfway with the pointy end up.
These micro punji sticks will clean your fingernails as you pick the
berries too. Don't lean down to smell the flowers though.


D

Frank 30-05-2011 12:26 AM

Slugs
 
On 5/29/2011 11:52 AM, Snag wrote:
Bennewby wrote:
Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without
using slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and
healthy but I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and
there are slug trails on them




--
Bennewby


Small saucers of beer. Quart-size jar lids work well .

Beer works. You can also put out boards on the ground for the slugs to
crawl under and remove them from there.

Steve Peek 30-05-2011 03:07 AM

Slugs
 

"Snag" wrote in message
...
Bennewby wrote:
Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without
using slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and
healthy but I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and
there are slug trails on them




--
Bennewby


Small saucers of beer. Quart-size jar lids work well .

--
Snag
Learning keeps
you young !


Try some fresh ground coffee (not coffee grounds). The caffeine gives them
fits.



DogDiesel 30-05-2011 04:45 AM

Slugs
 

"Bennewby" wrote in message
...

Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without using
slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy but
I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug
trails on them




--
Bennewby




I heard you can surround your garden with sand and pick the ones out In the
middle. Then no more will go in. Cuz it cuts their little fat bellies.



FarmI 30-05-2011 07:45 AM

Slugs
 
"Bennewby" wrote in message
...

Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without using
slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy but
I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug
trails on them


Saucers of stale beer or Marmite in water or other yeast in water mixes.



Suzanne 30-05-2011 08:50 AM

Slugs
 

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 29 May 2011 15:17:36 -0600, "Suzanne"



Also try gently pulling apart steel wool pads and placing them on the
ground
around the plants.




Slugs laugh at wool of all kinds.


Not the ones that tried to crawl over my steel wool and got shredded up
before my eyes.
--S.


DogDiesel 30-05-2011 08:57 AM

Slugs
 

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
u...
"Bennewby" wrote in message
...

Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without using
slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy but
I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug
trails on them


Saucers of stale beer or Marmite in water or other yeast in water mixes.



Thats what I should do with my god forsaken Marmite. And Vegymite.

Give it to the slugs.

Thanks



David Hare-Scott[_2_] 30-05-2011 12:33 PM

Slugs
 
On Mon, 30 May 2011 03:57:56 -0400, "DogDiesel"
wrote:


"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
. au...
"Bennewby" wrote in message
...

Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without using
slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy but
I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug
trails on them


Saucers of stale beer or Marmite in water or other yeast in water mixes.



Thats what I should do with my god forsaken Marmite. And Vegymite.

Give it to the slugs.

Thanks


If you lack the gene for it Vegemite will never be food, if you have
it then it is the first thing after mother's milk.

D

Ross@home 30-05-2011 02:37 PM

Slugs
 
On Mon, 30 May 2011 16:45:18 +1000, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
wrote:

"Bennewby" wrote in message
...

Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without using
slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy but
I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug
trails on them


Saucers of stale beer or Marmite in water or other yeast in water mixes.


Beer, OK. But Marmite? That's just out and out sadistic cruelty!

Ross.

godkingross 30-05-2011 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bennewby (Post 924555)
Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without using slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy but I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug trails on them

My dad used to use those little plastic tubs you get Chinese food in, sink them flush to the soil near his veggies and fill em with cheap beer combined with hand picking them from all over the garden at night.

Billy[_10_] 30-05-2011 07:30 PM

Slugs
 
In article ,
godkingross wrote:

Bennewby;924555 Wrote:
Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without using
slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy but
I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug
trails on them


My dad used to use those little plastic tubs you get Chinese food in,
sink them flush to the soil near his veggies and fill em with cheap beer
combined with hand picking them from all over the garden at night.



If slugs are a huge problem, you need to remove their habitat by raking
up your mulch in spring and composting it. Then, start your garden in
open soil, and wait until early summer to add a fresh blanket of mulch.
You still may have problems because your soil may be well stocked with
slug eggs. A few years ago, a U.S. Department of Agriculture scientist
found that crabgrass contains a substance toxic to slugs. Since then,
many backyard slug slayers have experimented with crabgrass cookies,
which are made by mixing chopped, dried crabgrass leaves with corn bran,
cornstarch and beer. The baits are then placed beneath plants, where the
slugs eat them and die.

Another option is spraying coffee on plants that are plagued with slugs.
Caffeine in any form ‹ including a few No-Doz tablets mixed with water ‹
is a slug neurotoxin that will kill these unwanted pests.

When youčre down to only a few slugs, you can fall back on the
traditional organic control, which is to trap them with beer. Put an
inch or so of any beer in a cup, bury it in the garden nearly to the
rim, and collect your drowned slugs in the morning. Or, put some beer in
plastic drink bottles and lay them on their sides in the garden. The
slugs will crawl in and drown. Dump them out and start over again every
few days.
---

Or if you are tired of night patrol, see:
http://www.ecoact.org/PDF/ipm_factsheets/SnailSlg.101.pdf

and look at the section about Iron Phosphates.

It is only poisonous to snails and slugs, and has been added to human
food as a nutrient enhancer.
--
- Billy

Mad dog Republicans to the right. Democratic spider webs to the left. True conservatives, and liberals not to be found anywhere in the phantasmagoria
of the American political landscape.

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/

Skylark 30-05-2011 08:49 PM

Slugs
 
On May 29, 8:56*am, Bennewby
wrote:
Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without using
slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy but
I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug
trails on them

--
Bennewby


if you can or can find a way... get some COPPER "shavings" and place
them around the plants upon which you wish to save. you can usually
find or buy copper shavings at lumber/timber yards; metal 'carving'
stores; best bet, tho' is through an art supply store; even a frame
shop is sure to have what you need!! ---- if you go to one or all of
those places, you can tell them your sad story, even bring a leaf or 2
with the place(s) you go to and lay it on thickly.
OR!! BEST THING of ALL? get up at dawnlight or e'vning light; grab
a pair of tongs which REALLY close tightly; and a 3lb. EMPTY can of
coffee in which you fill with approximately 1/2 of the can with salt
water; ratio of salt:water... 2/3 table salt to 1/3 tap water.
when you find tracks of the slugs, use the tongs OR a garden-gloved
hand to pick up EVERY slug you see and place DIRECTLY into salt
water!! do NOT for ANY REASON fill the can with PLAIN water, dump
slugs/snails into THAT and then go to dump can of plain water, slugs/
snails onto nearest concrete or cemented pavement and try to stomp the
life out of them..... because, GET THIS: ALL SNAILS &/OR SLUGS lead
a double life: they are ALL hermaphrodites--meaning they are all male
and female at the same time AND the females carry their eggs which are
encased in a plastic-type of casing which is ALMOST impossible to
break unless you have a KNIFE with you to CUT INTO the
casings!!!!!!!!!!!!
on the other hand, the salt water "smothers" them--cuts off their
ability to survive: TOTALLY!!!!!!!

PHEW!!!!!!!! i sure hope this answers your question(s)?!!!?

warm regards from "suddenly" zone 6 in western new hamster.

DogDiesel 31-05-2011 05:34 AM

Slugs
 

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 30 May 2011 03:57:56 -0400, "DogDiesel"
wrote:


"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
.au...
"Bennewby" wrote in message
...

Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without using
slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy
but
I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug
trails on them

Saucers of stale beer or Marmite in water or other yeast in water mixes.



Thats what I should do with my god forsaken Marmite. And Vegymite.

Give it to the slugs.

Thanks


If you lack the gene for it Vegemite will never be food, if you have
it then it is the first thing after mother's milk.

D



And who decided toast and Marmite should be a national dish. Its an insult.



FarmI 31-05-2011 06:27 AM

Slugs
 
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 30 May 2011 03:57:56 -0400, "DogDiesel"
wrote:


"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
.au...
"Bennewby" wrote in message
...

Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without using
slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy
but
I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug
trails on them

Saucers of stale beer or Marmite in water or other yeast in water mixes.



Thats what I should do with my god forsaken Marmite. And Vegymite.

Give it to the slugs.

Thanks


If you lack the gene for it Vegemite will never be food, if you have
it then it is the first thing after mother's milk.


It's just a matter of having a privileged upbringing as opposed to being
deprived by not having access to yeast spreads.



FarmI 31-05-2011 06:36 AM

Slugs
 
"Billy" wrote in message

When youčre down to only a few slugs, you can fall back on the
traditional organic control, which is to trap them with beer. Put an
inch or so of any beer in a cup, bury it in the garden nearly to the
rim, and collect your drowned slugs in the morning. Or, put some beer in
plastic drink bottles and lay them on their sides in the garden. The
slugs will crawl in and drown.


As I understand it, it's not drowning, it's the yeast. I'd always thought
that the yeast acts as a poison for slugs and snails so you dont' need huge
amounts of it. The dregs from the bottom of a bottle of beer that has been
drunk is enough. I've never used a lot of beer and still the snails have
died (and not whilst in the the liquid, but near it). Now you've got me
wondering about what it is about the beer and yeast spreads that works.



Billy[_10_] 31-05-2011 05:29 PM

Slugs
 
In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message

When youčre down to only a few slugs, you can fall back on the
traditional organic control, which is to trap them with beer. Put an
inch or so of any beer in a cup, bury it in the garden nearly to the
rim, and collect your drowned slugs in the morning. Or, put some beer in
plastic drink bottles and lay them on their sides in the garden. The
slugs will crawl in and drown.


As I understand it, it's not drowning, it's the yeast. I'd always thought
that the yeast acts as a poison for slugs and snails so you dont' need huge
amounts of it. The dregs from the bottom of a bottle of beer that has been
drunk is enough. I've never used a lot of beer and still the snails have
died (and not whilst in the the liquid, but near it). Now you've got me
wondering about what it is about the beer and yeast spreads that works.


Do you mean the little "fun-guys", themselves, or chemicals that they
produce, like ethanol? Unlike Coopers, I'm not familiar with any USian
beers that are "krausened" (leaving yeast in the bottle).

I've never had good luck using beer on snails and slugs. Maybe it is the
lack of yeast in the beer, or that most USian beer is so highly
processed, that our "refined" European snails may not recognize it as
beer. Micro-brewery beers, on the other hand, are too good, and too
expensive to put out for the marauding gangs of gastropods that used to
menace my garden.

I've seen very few slugs and snail this wet spring (19C and rain today).
When I put a plant in the ground now, it is still there the next day,
not just a green stump where the plant used to be. This I attribute to
my reliance on ferric phosphate (iron phosphate) baits.
--
- Billy

Mad dog Republicans to the right. Democratic spider webs to the left. True conservatives, and liberals not to be found anywhere in the phantasmagoria
of the American political landscape.

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/

DogDiesel 01-06-2011 04:51 AM

Slugs
 

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
...
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 30 May 2011 03:57:56 -0400, "DogDiesel"
wrote:


"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
m.au...
"Bennewby" wrote in message
...

Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without
using
slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy
but
I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug
trails on them

Saucers of stale beer or Marmite in water or other yeast in water
mixes.



Thats what I should do with my god forsaken Marmite. And Vegymite.

Give it to the slugs.

Thanks


If you lack the gene for it Vegemite will never be food, if you have
it then it is the first thing after mother's milk.


It's just a matter of having a privileged upbringing as opposed to being
deprived by not having access to yeast spreads.

Thats too funny!!!



FarmI 01-06-2011 08:18 AM

Slugs
 
"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message

When youčre down to only a few slugs, you can fall back on the
traditional organic control, which is to trap them with beer. Put an
inch or so of any beer in a cup, bury it in the garden nearly to the
rim, and collect your drowned slugs in the morning. Or, put some beer
in
plastic drink bottles and lay them on their sides in the garden. The
slugs will crawl in and drown.


As I understand it, it's not drowning, it's the yeast. I'd always
thought
that the yeast acts as a poison for slugs and snails so you dont' need
huge
amounts of it. The dregs from the bottom of a bottle of beer that has
been
drunk is enough. I've never used a lot of beer and still the snails have
died (and not whilst in the the liquid, but near it). Now you've got me
wondering about what it is about the beer and yeast spreads that works.


Do you mean the little "fun-guys", themselves, or chemicals that they
produce, like ethanol? Unlike Coopers, I'm not familiar with any USian
beers that are "krausened" (leaving yeast in the bottle).

I've never had good luck using beer on snails and slugs. Maybe it is the
lack of yeast in the beer, or that most USian beer is so highly
processed, that our "refined" European snails may not recognize it as
beer. Micro-brewery beers, on the other hand, are too good, and too
expensive to put out for the marauding gangs of gastropods that used to
menace my garden.

I've seen very few slugs and snail this wet spring (19C and rain today).
When I put a plant in the ground now, it is still there the next day,
not just a green stump where the plant used to be. This I attribute to
my reliance on ferric phosphate (iron phosphate) baits.


:-)) Perhaps you need to go buy some Vegemite or Marmite or Promite :-)))))
If you don't like the taste of it on your toast, (and anyone with any degree
of discernment, style and class will of course like it on their toast) you
can use it on the gastropods.



FarmI 01-06-2011 08:20 AM

Slugs
 
"DogDiesel" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 30 May 2011 03:57:56 -0400, "DogDiesel"
wrote:


"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
om.au...
"Bennewby" wrote in message
...

Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without
using
slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy
but
I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug
trails on them

Saucers of stale beer or Marmite in water or other yeast in water
mixes.



Thats what I should do with my god forsaken Marmite. And Vegymite.

Give it to the slugs.

Thanks


If you lack the gene for it Vegemite will never be food, if you have
it then it is the first thing after mother's milk.


It's just a matter of having a privileged upbringing as opposed to being
deprived by not having access to yeast spreads.

Thats too funny!!!


Indeed. But I suspect we might be laughing at different things.



DogDiesel 01-06-2011 01:16 PM

Slugs
 

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
u...
"DogDiesel" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 30 May 2011 03:57:56 -0400, "DogDiesel"
wrote:


"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
. com.au...
"Bennewby" wrote in message
...

Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without
using
slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy
but
I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug
trails on them

Saucers of stale beer or Marmite in water or other yeast in water
mixes.



Thats what I should do with my god forsaken Marmite. And Vegymite.

Give it to the slugs.

Thanks


If you lack the gene for it Vegemite will never be food, if you have
it then it is the first thing after mother's milk.

It's just a matter of having a privileged upbringing as opposed to being
deprived by not having access to yeast spreads.

Thats too funny!!!


Indeed. But I suspect we might be laughing at different things.
You might be right. Your last statement can clearly be funny two
different ways. Both of which are indeed good.




Billy[_10_] 01-06-2011 05:04 PM

Slugs
 
In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message

When youčre down to only a few slugs, you can fall back on the
traditional organic control, which is to trap them with beer. Put an
inch or so of any beer in a cup, bury it in the garden nearly to the
rim, and collect your drowned slugs in the morning. Or, put some beer
in
plastic drink bottles and lay them on their sides in the garden. The
slugs will crawl in and drown.

As I understand it, it's not drowning, it's the yeast. I'd always
thought
that the yeast acts as a poison for slugs and snails so you dont' need
huge
amounts of it. The dregs from the bottom of a bottle of beer that has
been
drunk is enough. I've never used a lot of beer and still the snails have
died (and not whilst in the the liquid, but near it). Now you've got me
wondering about what it is about the beer and yeast spreads that works.


Do you mean the little "fun-guys", themselves, or chemicals that they
produce, like ethanol? Unlike Coopers, I'm not familiar with any USian
beers that are "krausened" (leaving yeast in the bottle).

I've never had good luck using beer on snails and slugs. Maybe it is the
lack of yeast in the beer, or that most USian beer is so highly
processed, that our "refined" European snails may not recognize it as
beer. Micro-brewery beers, on the other hand, are too good, and too
expensive to put out for the marauding gangs of gastropods that used to
menace my garden.

I've seen very few slugs and snail this wet spring (19C and rain today).
When I put a plant in the ground now, it is still there the next day,
not just a green stump where the plant used to be. This I attribute to
my reliance on ferric phosphate (iron phosphate) baits.


:-)) Perhaps you need to go buy some Vegemite or Marmite or Promite :-)))))
If you don't like the taste of it on your toast, (and anyone with any degree
of discernment, style and class will of course like it on their toast) you
can use it on the gastropods.


What? It's better than Nuss Nuggat with raspberry jam on toast? I
already have enough habits, most of them are bad, but I await the
opportunity to give it a go ;O)

I'm not sure what my formerly rampaging gangs of snails and slugs are
having for breakfast in that Gastropod Valhalla where they now reside.

Saw your waterspouts on the telly, very impressive, WOW.
--
- Billy

Mad dog Republicans to the right. Democratic spider webs to the left. True conservatives, and liberals not to be found anywhere in the phantasmagoria
of the American political landscape.

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/

Billy[_10_] 01-06-2011 10:56 PM

Slugs
 
In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message

When youčre down to only a few slugs, you can fall back on the
traditional organic control, which is to trap them with beer. Put an
inch or so of any beer in a cup, bury it in the garden nearly to the
rim, and collect your drowned slugs in the morning. Or, put some beer
in
plastic drink bottles and lay them on their sides in the garden. The
slugs will crawl in and drown.

As I understand it, it's not drowning, it's the yeast. I'd always
thought
that the yeast acts as a poison for slugs and snails so you dont' need
huge
amounts of it. The dregs from the bottom of a bottle of beer that has
been
drunk is enough. I've never used a lot of beer and still the snails
have
died (and not whilst in the the liquid, but near it). Now you've got me
wondering about what it is about the beer and yeast spreads that works.

Do you mean the little "fun-guys", themselves, or chemicals that they
produce, like ethanol? Unlike Coopers, I'm not familiar with any USian
beers that are "krausened" (leaving yeast in the bottle).

I've never had good luck using beer on snails and slugs. Maybe it is the
lack of yeast in the beer, or that most USian beer is so highly
processed, that our "refined" European snails may not recognize it as
beer. Micro-brewery beers, on the other hand, are too good, and too
expensive to put out for the marauding gangs of gastropods that used to
menace my garden.

I've seen very few slugs and snail this wet spring (19C and rain today).
When I put a plant in the ground now, it is still there the next day,
not just a green stump where the plant used to be. This I attribute to
my reliance on ferric phosphate (iron phosphate) baits.


:-)) Perhaps you need to go buy some Vegemite or Marmite or Promite
::-)))))
If you don't like the taste of it on your toast, (and anyone with any
degree
of discernment, style and class will of course like it on their toast) you
can use it on the gastropods.


What? It's better than Nuss Nuggat with raspberry jam on toast? I

Whoops, Nuss Nuggat is what they call it in Germany, in the States we
use the French brand, Nutella.

already have enough habits, most of them are bad, but I await the
opportunity to give it a go ;O)

I'm not sure what my formerly rampaging gangs of snails and slugs are
having for breakfast in that Gastropod Valhalla where they now reside.

Saw your waterspouts on the telly, very impressive, WOW.

--
- Billy

Mad dog Republicans to the right. Democratic spider webs to the left. True conservatives, and liberals not to be found anywhere in the phantasmagoria
of the American political landscape.

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/

FarmI 02-06-2011 03:19 AM

Slugs
 
"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message

When youčre down to only a few slugs, you can fall back on the
traditional organic control, which is to trap them with beer. Put an
inch or so of any beer in a cup, bury it in the garden nearly to the
rim, and collect your drowned slugs in the morning. Or, put some
beer
in
plastic drink bottles and lay them on their sides in the garden. The
slugs will crawl in and drown.

As I understand it, it's not drowning, it's the yeast. I'd always
thought
that the yeast acts as a poison for slugs and snails so you dont' need
huge
amounts of it. The dregs from the bottom of a bottle of beer that has
been
drunk is enough. I've never used a lot of beer and still the snails
have
died (and not whilst in the the liquid, but near it). Now you've got
me
wondering about what it is about the beer and yeast spreads that
works.

Do you mean the little "fun-guys", themselves, or chemicals that they
produce, like ethanol? Unlike Coopers, I'm not familiar with any USian
beers that are "krausened" (leaving yeast in the bottle).

I've never had good luck using beer on snails and slugs. Maybe it is
the
lack of yeast in the beer, or that most USian beer is so highly
processed, that our "refined" European snails may not recognize it as
beer. Micro-brewery beers, on the other hand, are too good, and too
expensive to put out for the marauding gangs of gastropods that used to
menace my garden.

I've seen very few slugs and snail this wet spring (19C and rain
today).
When I put a plant in the ground now, it is still there the next day,
not just a green stump where the plant used to be. This I attribute to
my reliance on ferric phosphate (iron phosphate) baits.


:-)) Perhaps you need to go buy some Vegemite or Marmite or Promite
:-)))))
If you don't like the taste of it on your toast, (and anyone with any
degree
of discernment, style and class will of course like it on their toast)
you
can use it on the gastropods.


What? It's better than Nuss Nuggat with raspberry jam on toast? I
already have enough habits, most of them are bad, but I await the
opportunity to give it a go ;O)


I'm sure we've all got a few habits we should give up.

I'm not sure what my formerly rampaging gangs of snails and slugs are
having for breakfast in that Gastropod Valhalla where they now reside.


I do hope there is a gardener there with large boots who likes nothing so
much as the satisfying crunch as the boot comes down on those soft slimy
bodies.

Saw your waterspouts on the telly, very impressive, WOW.


I just had to do a google. Very big and scary looking beasties. Wish those
selfish sods would send some decent rain in my direction - it always seems
to fall over the coastal cites these days. Sigh.



David Hare-Scott[_2_] 02-06-2011 08:02 AM

Slugs
 
FarmI wrote:

Saw your waterspouts on the telly, very impressive, WOW.


I just had to do a google. Very big and scary looking beasties.
Wish those selfish sods would send some decent rain in my direction -
it always seems to fall over the coastal cites these days. Sigh.


We got 70mm this week and 30mm last week, I'll email you some.

D

General Schvantzkoph 07-06-2011 12:23 AM

Slugs
 
On Sun, 29 May 2011 12:56:22 +0000, Bennewby wrote:

Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without using
slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy but
I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug
trails on them


The iron phosphate slug killers are safe,

http://www.biconet.com/crawlers/sluggo.html

Urban Wildlife 07-06-2011 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skylark (Post 924798)
On May 29, 8:56*am, Bennewby
wrote:
Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without using
slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy but
I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug
trails on them

--
Bennewby


if you can or can find a way... get some COPPER "shavings" and place
them around the plants upon which you wish to save. you can usually
find or buy copper shavings at lumber/timber yards; metal 'carving'
stores; best bet, tho' is through an art supply store; even a frame
shop is sure to have what you need!! ---- if you go to one or all of
those places, you can tell them your sad story, even bring a leaf or 2
with the place(s) you go to and lay it on thickly.
OR!! BEST THING of ALL? get up at dawnlight or e'vning light; grab
a pair of tongs which REALLY close tightly; and a 3lb. EMPTY can of
coffee in which you fill with approximately 1/2 of the can with salt
water; ratio of salt:water... 2/3 table salt to 1/3 tap water.
when you find tracks of the slugs, use the tongs OR a garden-gloved
hand to pick up EVERY slug you see and place DIRECTLY into salt
water!! do NOT for ANY REASON fill the can with PLAIN water, dump
slugs/snails into THAT and then go to dump can of plain water, slugs/
snails onto nearest concrete or cemented pavement and try to stomp the
life out of them..... because, GET THIS: ALL SNAILS &/OR SLUGS lead
a double life: they are ALL hermaphrodites--meaning they are all male
and female at the same time AND the females carry their eggs which are
encased in a plastic-type of casing which is ALMOST impossible to
break unless you have a KNIFE with you to CUT INTO the
casings!!!!!!!!!!!!
on the other hand, the salt water "smothers" them--cuts off their
ability to survive: TOTALLY!!!!!!!

PHEW!!!!!!!! i sure hope this answers your question(s)?!!!?

warm regards from "suddenly" zone 6 in western new hamster.

try filling a old pair of tights with road salt place them on ya border FOR AN INSTANT CURE !!!

Billy[_10_] 07-06-2011 04:50 PM

Slugs
 
In article ,
Urban Wildlife wrote:

Skylark;924798 Wrote:
On May 29, 8:56*am, Bennewby
wrote:-
Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without
using
slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy
but
I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug
trails on them

--
Bennewby-

if you can or can find a way... get some COPPER "shavings" and place
them around the plants upon which you wish to save. you can usually
find or buy copper shavings at lumber/timber yards; metal 'carving'
stores; best bet, tho' is through an art supply store; even a frame
shop is sure to have what you need!! ---- if you go to one or all of
those places, you can tell them your sad story, even bring a leaf or 2
with the place(s) you go to and lay it on thickly.
OR!! BEST THING of ALL? get up at dawnlight or e'vning light; grab
a pair of tongs which REALLY close tightly; and a 3lb. EMPTY can of
coffee in which you fill with approximately 1/2 of the can with salt
water; ratio of salt:water... 2/3 table salt to 1/3 tap water.
when you find tracks of the slugs, use the tongs OR a garden-gloved
hand to pick up EVERY slug you see and place DIRECTLY into salt
water!! do NOT for ANY REASON fill the can with PLAIN water, dump
slugs/snails into THAT and then go to dump can of plain water, slugs/
snails onto nearest concrete or cemented pavement and try to stomp the
life out of them..... because, GET THIS: ALL SNAILS &/OR SLUGS lead
a double life: they are ALL hermaphrodites--meaning they are all male
and female at the same time AND the females carry their eggs which are
encased in a plastic-type of casing which is ALMOST impossible to
break unless you have a KNIFE with you to CUT INTO the
casings!!!!!!!!!!!!
on the other hand, the salt water "smothers" them--cuts off their
ability to survive: TOTALLY!!!!!!!

PHEW!!!!!!!! i sure hope this answers your question(s)?!!!?

warm regards from "suddenly" zone 6 in western new hamster.


try filling a old pair of tights with road salt place them on ya border
FOR AN INSTANT CURE !!!


The above may be someone's idea of a joke, but to be sure that there is
no miss understanding, adding salt to garden soil is a very dumb idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soil_salinity
Causes of soil salinity
Salt-affected soils are caused by excess accumulation of salts,
typically most pronounced at the soil surface. Salts can be transported
to the soil surface by capillary transport from a salt laden water table
and then accumulate due to evaporation. They can also be concentrated in
soils due to human activity, for example the use of potassium as
fertilizer, which can form sylvite, a naturally occurring salt. As soil
salinity increases, salt effects can result in degradation of soils and
vegetation.
Salinization is a process that results from:
€ high levels of salt in the soils.
€ landscape features that allow salts to become mobile. (movement of
water table)
€ climatic trends that favor accumulation.
€ human activities such as land clearing, aquaculture activities and
the salting of icy roads.[2]


Consequences of salinity
The consequences of salinity are
€ detrimental effects on plant growth and yield
€ damage to infrastructure (roads, bricks, corrosion of pipes and
cables)
€ reduction of water quality for users, sedimentation problems
€ soil erosion ultimately, when crops are too strongly affected by
the amounts of salts.
Salinity is an important land degradation problem. Soil salinity can be
reduced by leaching soluble salts out of soil with excess irrigation
water. Soil salinity control involves watertable control and flushing in
combination with tile drainage or another form of subsurface
drainage.[4][5] A comprehensive treatment of soil salinity is available
from the FAO.[6]
High levels of soil salinity can be tolerated if salt-tolerant plants
are grown. Sensitive crops lose their vigor already in slightly saline
soils, most crops are negatively affected by (moderately) saline soils,
and only salinity resistant crops thrive in severely saline soils. The
University of Wyoming [7] and the Government of Alberta [8] report data
on the salt tolerance of plants.
--
- Billy

Mad dog Republicans to the right. Democratic spider webs to the left. True conservatives, and liberals not to be found anywhere in the phantasmagoria
of the American political landscape.

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/

David Hare-Scott[_2_] 08-06-2011 01:01 AM

Slugs
 
Urban Wildlife wrote:

try filling a old pair of tights with road salt place them on ya
border FOR AN INSTANT CURE !!!


Salt is not good for the soil, your cure may turn out worse than the
problem.

David



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