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they've sprouted, maybe we'll have some
pods before the frosts. i'm hoping we have late frosts and they will do well. if anything they will be a cover crop. we've really enjoyed the peas this year and only regret we didn't plant more and years ago. this garden is about 1.5m x 1.5m, raised bed and almost all clay (a little sand was added to it many years ago when it was set up as a perennial garden). it was used to grow green peppers the last two years (both years produced well). this year it had peas and mixed leaf lettuces. it did ok. the lettuces eventually bolted and i had to get them turned under. which was a good chance to examine the soil to see how it was changing from the plant roots, the few holes where i'd put worms a few months ago and the light mulch of shredded paper i'd put on top to keep the lettuces from getting dirt splashed on them. there was more evidence of fungal hyphae along the fractures of the clay as it crumbled. most of this was likely fed from the decaying shredded paper. the places where i'd put worms or where there were decayed roots from the peas or lettuces were more easily noticeable. no worms were found. probably too hot and not enough organic materials in there and they didn't have an easy way to get down deeper either. i dug out four trenches down about 30cm and put down the bolted lettuces and whatever else on top that was organic and then on top of that put several kilos of worms, chopped up organic materials and worm poo. then buried them. i'm hoping they'll do ok this time. one trench i made deeper in the middle to give them a way to work down if it gets hot again. good luck little buddies. gotta make sure to get some green manure on there in a week and a half. then i planted plenty of peas on top. this garden is right next to another garden of the same shape, height and soil and that has been treated a little differently to start with and will be examined later this fall after the volunteer squash plants are done. other peas are in progress, but they are not pod peas, instead they are the round smooth kind you find in split pea soup. a small patch to increase the seed stock for next year. i like how they grow, they are quite cute with their many tendrils. i'm not sure they would be good fresh or not, i'll try a few when they plump up a little more. the fun continues... songbird |
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songbird wrote:
they've sprouted, maybe we'll have some pods before the frosts. i'm hoping we have late frosts and they will do well. if anything they will be a cover crop. we've really enjoyed the peas this year and only regret we didn't plant more and years ago. ok, i can't find the exact date planted but i think these sprouted after 4 days. that makes the planting date around Aug 12. today i see flowers, so i may get pods before the frosts come. just good to know it takes about 25 days from planting in the summer in heavy soil with full sun. watered often enough to keep the soil moist. from flower to pod not sure how many days, but it seems to be only a few. songbird |
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songbird wrote:
songbird wrote: they've sprouted, maybe we'll have some pods before the frosts. i'm hoping we have late frosts and they will do well. if anything they will be a cover crop. we've really enjoyed the peas this year and only regret we didn't plant more and years ago. ok, i can't find the exact date planted but i think these sprouted after 4 days. that makes the planting date around Aug 12. today i see flowers, so i may get pods before the frosts come. just good to know it takes about 25 days from planting in the summer in heavy soil with full sun. watered often enough to keep the soil moist. from flower to pod not sure how many days, but it seems to be only a few. songbird I had "Peas with cream sauce" with the fresh green peas from my garden today. http://alturl.com/9nt82 -- Nad |
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Derald wrote:
songbird wrote: ok, i can't find the exact date planted but i think these sprouted after 4 days. that makes the planting date around Aug 12. Coincidentally, I noticed the Little Marvel peas planted on 9/3 peeking through this morning, in the rain. Germination is not as uniform as I had hoped -- Of the 176 (doesn't everybody count'em?) planted, it looks as if only about a third are up this afternoon -- but better than feared due to an overabundance of rain. Why does it have to come down all at the same time? old seed? mine were all planted from freshly harvested and dried seeds. almost every one came up within a day of each other. we had sunshine and i watered them each day enough to keep them moist (but not too soggy). now i am watering them about every other day. looking good. first time i'm doing a full solo pea patch. they will be falling all over each other shortly and supporting each other too i hope. we'll see how it goes. as for rains, i know what you mean, we didn't have much rain here for almost two months and then 8-10 inches within a few weeks. now it has spaced out and moderated. The next day or two will tell the tale on whether I have to fill in. As long as the tropical disturbances persist in the Gulf of Mexico, we can expect quite a bit of rain down here in the "sunshine state". I can't believe I've been here sixteen years and still have no way to store useful quantities of rainwater. if i had a two story house it would be a great thing to capture the water off the eaves up high in a cistern and then have that water plus the added water pressure from the height to do fun things like small fountains or even something i am calling a moss table (the design is in my head ). in addition to the use of the water for the gardens of course. On 9/4, already had to replant some Delinel snap beans planted on 8/27 because the rainfall caused them to rot in the ground and only about 1/4 of them sprouted. Oh, well; I guess it beats trying to garden in a desert, although, I'm sure there are those who're successful at that. i would not like to garden in the arid southwest. that would be tough sledding. songbird |
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Derald wrote:
Nad wrote: I had "Peas with cream sauce" with the fresh green peas from my garden today. Yum. One of my favorite breakfasts is peas in the garden straight from the vine and a fresh Samuel Adams beer; yummy. I'm still some weeks away from that, though, because my first fall peas just began sprouting today. most of the harvest here too does not get far from the patch. we barely had enough this summer for two or three meals because we were both snacking as we'd walk by. still speaking of peas i was not at all disappointed by the sample of the smooth round green peas i had the other day fresh off the plant. true the pods were not as tender and tasty, but the peas were good. from my reading i was lead to believe that they would not taste as good. i'm building up my seed source for next year so i'm trying not to raid these quite so much. songbird |
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Derald wrote:
songbird wrote: true the pods were not as tender and tasty, but the peas were good. from my reading i was lead to believe that they would not taste as good. Do they have a varietal name that you know of? I've tried other peas that are promoted as being more heat tolerant than my "regular" Little Marvel, which would be a boon, but none of them has the combination of sweetness and flavor that suits DW&me. Unfortunately, the LMs neither dry nor freeze well. i'm not sure what you mean by saying that LMs don't dry well? i pulled about a pound of dry LMs out of the two patches i grew. they seemed fine and sprouted well. i have not cooked with them and perhaps that is what you mean? that they aren't good soup or porridge peas? the peas above were smooth round peas in a mixed bag of soup beans you would get at the store. so no variety name given for these. they didn't croak in the hot weather we had (90s for weeks on end) and they didn't get nearly enough water. i liked their upright habit and the many tendrils they put out so they've supported each other. i'm sure this is something they've been bred for as a field crop. i planted them in a small clump with about a 6 inch spacing. a cheap experiment at around $1/lb. about 14 kinds of beans to try. they've been a good cover crop, planted late, the full evaluation comes after the hard frost and dry bean harvest. i'll get the scale out. songbird |
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songbird wrote:
.... the fun continues... the lack of a hard frost has meant actual pea pods have made it to harvest. they are 2-3ft tall and flowering up a storm. about 37 days from pea to edible pod. the low temperatures we had a few nights last week took out the squash and the tops of the green pepper plants. there are still green peppers developing though so no reason to give up yet there. tomatoes still producing a few here or there. much picking of dry beans lately. 6-8lbs of pinto beans already and several lbs of the many other beans too. much more to come as they ripen/dry. strawberries flowering again. songbird |
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Derald wrote:
.... Warning: I'm listening to very old shitkicker music performed by George Jones and drinking whisky. not something i would ever choose to mix. i'll leave that to the pros... In truth, I do not envy you folks who write of October frosts. i'm hoping things will hold off for a bit yet. i need a few more days to finish up the staining and then a few other days to get some other things done outside. The Little Marvel peas that I planted earlier this month are thriving. when the little peas babies are a few inches taller, pla jn to plant some old timey mustard greens under them. glad to hear things are going well. have you done the mustard greens under them before? Will plant more peas on 9/29. This time of year, I plant them at about three week intervals. The irony is that the peas are most frost sensitive when they're in full bloom and, of course, that'll be about the time we have freezing temperatures donw here. Tohse can occur anytime between about thanksgiving and February: One never knows. Oh, my, typing this is far too much work. haha, well i hope you slept well after all that? i finished the first pick through of the one pinto bean patch just in time before this round of rains returned. shelled them out as a nice break from staining. measured them on the scale at about 10lbs. not bad for a cover crop on a spot i'd normally have left bare. songbird |
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Derald wrote:
songbird wrote: Derald wrote: ... Warning: I'm listening to very old shitkicker music performed by George Jones and drinking whisky. not something i would ever choose to mix. i'll leave that to the pros... Shoot; the two were made for each other. The relationship is symbiotic. heh, i'll still leave it to others, i need every brain cell i have left. snip glad to hear things are going well. have you done the mustard greens under them before? Yes; my planting pattern for the peas is not terribly space-efficient, so I always plant something else in the beds with them. Caveats are to wait for the peas to get tall enough as not to be shaded out by faster growing and to avoid plants that might require supplemental nitrogen before the peas are done. Also, it helps if the understorey is a crop that can continue after the peas are done. i made the mistake in my first planting of not letting the peas grow another week or two before putting in the lettuce seeds. they rapidly took over. i did get a crop from the peas, but not nearly as much as what i'm seeing now with the peas growing alone. snip haha, well i hope you slept well after all that? Who remembers? LOL! Today's the day for second planting of peas. The bed's ready, save for placing the dripline. Also will plant collards but in a separate bed. Need to install the dripline there, too. This spring, as beds became available, I began converting to dripline irrigation from those dreadful soaker hoses that I once thought so wonderful. i'm keeping things simple here -- going back to trench and flood irrigation for a few gardens next year. we are lucky that water is not a limiting factor for us. Temperatures down here have begun to moderate somewhat. Lows in the 60's are predicted for the next few days but that's only temporary. By midweek, I expect we'll be back to normal lows in the mid-70's. No danger yet to the chill-sensitive garden denizens. The end of tropical storm season also is the end of our rainy "season". Although not unheard of, I don't expect any significant rainfall before mid-December or, maybe, Christmas. The cooling temps have triggered a flush of blossoms on the cowpeas -- or, maybe, they overheard me speaking of pulling them up -- ("Southern peas", "blackeye peas") which is a mixed blessing: i'd never even tried growing blackeye peas until this season. as i put them in late i didn't really expect a crop. it looked like i just squeaked by and the pods are drying out now. they probably could have used another month. being flooded out four times probably didn't help either. too much rain the past few days for dry bean harvesting. i really enjoyed how they grew being so different than many of the other beans. with the pods sticking out like antennae. i didn't have them growing up a fence or trellis, that probably would have helped them a lot too. Although, I'm grateful for the unexpected produce for the freezer those two beds soon will be needed for garlic or onions and need preparation well in advance. I have a couple of yards of chicken manure that came from a covered chicken house on a now-defunct egg operation. Dry, it smells of ammonina and wet, believe me, it reverts to its raw state or, at least, certainly seems to do. At any rate, after adding (some of) it to the beds, I want to allow some "resting" time before planting onion sets or garlic. Do not accept any further gardening advice from someone who tells you that "fresh", "green", "raw" chicken manure does not need composting before use as a soil amendment and will not damage plants! go light with that stuff for the garlic and onion patches. too much nitrogen means more green up top and more bug troubles below. i finished the first pick through of the one pinto bean patch just in time before this round of rains returned. shelled them out as a nice break from staining. measured them on the scale at about 10lbs. not bad for a cover crop on a spot i'd normally have left bare. Staining wood, leather, lab specimens, or....?? staining the house. it's mostly red cedar slab siding. a lot of edges that show. i still have the eves to do (which means painting upside down and carefully around the 70someodd vents). the recent rains and a pulled tendon has given me a time-out -- the foot feels better, this weekend will have me back to it, i'd like to get this done so i can get the gardens finished up i'd like to redo. What do you do with the bean vines? Do you turn them under, put them in a composting area? I don't grow any kind of shelly beans except "baby" lima beans and we eat or freeze those ffresh and somewhat immature. I don't grow anything specifically as a cover crop. The garden is deliberately small and is planned around our nearly continuous growing season. I do, however, track nutrient needs when succession planting. Everything from the garden, including "weeds" goes to compost. for the perennial bulb gardens i'll cut those beans off at ground level so that the roots and nitrogen fixing nodules will be left behind to rot and feed the bulbs through the winter and spring. this will be the first year of trying this approach so we'll see how it goes. all the pods will get used one way or another. last year i put all the soybean pods through the worm bins. made good worm poo eventually. this season i'll have a lot more pods. a few bags i'll keep for the winter worm bins, the rest will get buried or used as mulch. i am filling in three strawberry patches (about 2000sqft total space) and each of those can use plenty of mulch on top along with organic materials worked into the soil. the compost pile doesn't get much other than stubborn weed root clumps or seedy weeds. for people with limited space it's not really worth planting dry beans for that alone as they are cheap enough in bulk. i like messing around and have various empty spaces or patches in transition to play with. i'll keep planting them now that i know what each is like i can plant more suitably. knowing me i'll keep collecting varieties as i come across them. songbird |
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Derald wrote:
songbird wrote: snip i'm keeping things simple here -- going back to trench and flood irrigation for a few gardens next year. we are lucky that water is not a limiting factor for us. I did that for many years but shortly after moving here in '96, DW began building raised beds and the slow drip irrigation works better in them. I buy a prefab product that has 1/2 gal/hr uncompensated emitters at 6" spacing. Before installation, I measure the ROF of each strand at 25PSI so that I can monitor volume with a simple kitchen timer. I tried using those soaker hoses made from old tires but found them to be fragile and almost impossible to repair reliably. The nuisance factor just got to be too high. Keep in mind that, for all practical purposes, whatever components I use are exposed to the elements year 'round. Life expectancy of the dripline remains unknown. i'll be interested in hearing how long they actually do last for you. we have raised beds too and yes, that does make flood irrigation trenches a challenge, but i'd rather have a way of watering from the side and letting it flow in than having to get the leaves wet. Water use isn't restricted in these parts but it is severely so in two adjacent, far more urban, counties. A family member, who lives in one of those counties, was ticketed for watering ornamenals with air conditioner condensate discharge; go figure.... wow, that's pretty extreme! Changing rainfall patterns and continured urbanization have lowered the water table significantly within the past ten-or-so years; not a good sign. I conserve but primarily because I begrudge paying the electricity utility company to pump water out of the ground for me, LOL. I've kicked myself many times for not arranging some sort of storage that will allow me to use the hovel's roof as a catchment. Maybe next year, he says.... i have a list like that too. our water table is pretty high. we have two ditches through the property that run the whole year. if electricity gets horribly expensive then we could put in a solar system to pump water from a shallow well, but for the most part i'd rather use any solar setup for heating hot water and electricity for the house. that would pay for itself a lot faster than just setting it up for irrigation. snip i'd never even tried growing blackeye peas until this season. as i put them in late i didn't really expect a crop. it looked like i just squeaked by and the pods are drying out now. they probably could have used another month. being flooded out four times probably didn't help either. too much rain the past few days for dry bean harvesting. Cowpeas (just "peas" to Southerners; those spherical green peas in flat pods are "English peas") are a Southern staple. They're shelled and eaten young and immature while still full-flavored and sweet. Sometimes cooked together with okra (gumbo). Often, very young tender pods are broken into suitable lengths and added to the mix. Cowpeas, okra, and -- to a lesser degree -- lima beans are among the few veggies that'll make it through July and August down here. These two beds of peas were planted on July 16 and 21, respectively; the okra on March 24. do people use the dried cowpeas for cooking too or are they too yucko for that? i'm mostly growing the soup beans so i have stuff that keeps without it having to be canned or frozen. i did see a package of cowpeas at a store and almost got them but i didn't. if i see them next year i'll pick some up and give them a try. from what i'm seeing of the blackeyed peas harvest so far they didn't like all the rain we've had lately. i'm not a huge fan of them anyways so i'll grow a much smaller plot next year (as a continuing seed source, to see how they do with a full season and they'll be up higher so they won't get flooded). snip i really enjoyed how they grew being so different than many of the other beans. with the pods sticking out like antennae. i didn't have them growing up a fence or trellis, that probably would have helped them a lot too. That tendency toward vining differs across varieties and varies with plant spacing. Mine are block-planted in two raised beds and fairly closely spaced. They vine somewhat but I no longer trellis them because it does not seem to affect yield, although, picking them requires a little more care. However, I've not done any sort of actual comparison test and do tend to be a bit delusional. i'm pretty sure for the vining pintos it would have helped some as there would have been less loss to rot. i planted them thickly and they climbed all over each other. as it is yet another thing to maintain i'm unlikely to trellis them as i already have plenty to keep me going. if i lose half a pound out of ten from rot and don't have to deal with fiddling with trellis and having to take them down or clean them off at the end of a growing cycle then i consider it a good trade for the time saved. hmm, i think if i saved stalks from the cosmos and planted beans to run on them for the next season they would work well enough. i'll have to keep a bundle for next year to test out. that would be a nice use of them. something simple like a piece of twine at the top and a teepee pattern would not go against my ideas of simplicity and low maint. at the end of the season then they would get buried like everything else. perhaps okra stalks would work too? i asked my brother to save me some okra seeds for next year to try here. snip for the perennial bulb gardens i'll cut those beans off at ground level so that the roots and nitrogen fixing nodules will be left behind to rot and feed the bulbs through the winter and spring. this will be the first year of trying this approach so we'll see how it goes. I just pull'em up and knock the nodules off with my hands. I must till, with hand tools, between plantings in order to combat native tree roots and about every third year I double dig. Compost is dear because I don't have much raw material. Just what comes from the garden and kitchen plus the occasional few bags of leaves that I can glean from the neighborhood. ah... not too many trees here with roots going into the gardens. only had some this year when i've been digging up and redoing the north bean patch. i like the full sun and less maint. with all the stone patches and pathways it is much better to not let leaves or stuff accumulate as then it sprouts weeds. from a few pine trees i'll rake some of the pine needles up and use them for the plants that like 'em. the cedar trees around the borders are all mostly a ways away and the other cedars scattered around are also a ways away from any gardens. a friend is giving me bags and bags of shredded tree bark and branches from an old tree that came down on their lot in the city. i'm very happy and so are they, as they get to reuse the bags. they said they'd give me their shredded leaves later this fall too. i have a large strawberry garden that can use them. i'll have to remember to give them some jam next time i visit. nice neighbors are good to have and keep happy. we are losing one of ours this fall. gonna miss her a lot. i go down and have tea and bring her veggies and fruits when i have extra. *sigh* songbird |
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"Derald" wrote in message ... songbird wrote: snip i'll be interested in hearing how long they actually do last for you. Well, the hardest part of that will be the remembering, LOL! Don't expect that to get any easier.... snip do people use the dried cowpeas for cooking too or are they too yucko for that? Oh, yes. They're sort of bland because they're too mature. Season them like any other dried legume or beans 'n rice dish, pretty much. Dried peas and rice is called, colloquially, "hoppin' John" and traditionally is eaten on New Year's Day to bring luck. Sort of a cracker version of "Moros y Christianos", a tradional Cuban black beans and rice dish. snip from what i'm seeing of the blackeyed peas harvest so far they didn't like all the rain we've had lately. i'm not a huge fan of them anyways so i'll grow a much smaller plot next year (as a continuing seed source, to see how they do with a full season and they'll be up higher so they won't get flooded). Well, the common blackeye and pinkeye peas from the seed racks are among the least flavorful of the cowpeas but all of them are at their best when young. As they mature they quickly become bland and "starchy". Various "crowder" and "conch" varieties are more productive and more flavorful but are difficult to find outside the South and becoming more difficult to find down here as creeping urbanization kills off the "feed 'n seed" stores that catered to local agriculture. Online, these guys have about the best selection of cowpeas (they call'em "southern peas") that I've found: http://www.southernexposure.com/index.php. -- Derald FL USDA zone 9a http://www.onlineconversion.com/ Sounds like something that should be discussed in a cooking or nutrition newsgroup to me. Steve |
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Steve B wrote:
"Derald" wrote in message ... songbird wrote: snip i'll be interested in hearing how long they actually do last for you. Well, the hardest part of that will be the remembering, LOL! Don't expect that to get any easier.... snip do people use the dried cowpeas for cooking too or are they too yucko for that? Oh, yes. They're sort of bland because they're too mature. Season them like any other dried legume or beans 'n rice dish, pretty much. Dried peas and rice is called, colloquially, "hoppin' John" and traditionally is eaten on New Year's Day to bring luck. Sort of a cracker version of "Moros y Christianos", a tradional Cuban black beans and rice dish. snip from what i'm seeing of the blackeyed peas harvest so far they didn't like all the rain we've had lately. i'm not a huge fan of them anyways so i'll grow a much smaller plot next year (as a continuing seed source, to see how they do with a full season and they'll be up higher so they won't get flooded). Well, the common blackeye and pinkeye peas from the seed racks are among the least flavorful of the cowpeas but all of them are at their best when young. As they mature they quickly become bland and "starchy". Various "crowder" and "conch" varieties are more productive and more flavorful but are difficult to find outside the South and becoming more difficult to find down here as creeping urbanization kills off the "feed 'n seed" stores that catered to local agriculture. Online, these guys have about the best selection of cowpeas (they call'em "southern peas") that I've found: http://www.southernexposure.com/index.php. -- Derald FL USDA zone 9a http://www.onlineconversion.com/ Sounds like something that should be discussed in a cooking or nutrition newsgroup to me. Steve I don't understand how the growing and eating qualities of pea cultivars is off topic for rec.gardens.edible or was two sentences about cooking old peas too much? David |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... Steve B wrote: "Derald" wrote in message ... songbird wrote: snip i'll be interested in hearing how long they actually do last for you. Well, the hardest part of that will be the remembering, LOL! Don't expect that to get any easier.... snip do people use the dried cowpeas for cooking too or are they too yucko for that? Oh, yes. They're sort of bland because they're too mature. Season them like any other dried legume or beans 'n rice dish, pretty much. Dried peas and rice is called, colloquially, "hoppin' John" and traditionally is eaten on New Year's Day to bring luck. Sort of a cracker version of "Moros y Christianos", a tradional Cuban black beans and rice dish. snip from what i'm seeing of the blackeyed peas harvest so far they didn't like all the rain we've had lately. i'm not a huge fan of them anyways so i'll grow a much smaller plot next year (as a continuing seed source, to see how they do with a full season and they'll be up higher so they won't get flooded). Well, the common blackeye and pinkeye peas from the seed racks are among the least flavorful of the cowpeas but all of them are at their best when young. As they mature they quickly become bland and "starchy". Various "crowder" and "conch" varieties are more productive and more flavorful but are difficult to find outside the South and becoming more difficult to find down here as creeping urbanization kills off the "feed 'n seed" stores that catered to local agriculture. Online, these guys have about the best selection of cowpeas (they call'em "southern peas") that I've found: http://www.southernexposure.com/index.php. -- Derald FL USDA zone 9a http://www.onlineconversion.com/ Sounds like something that should be discussed in a cooking or nutrition newsgroup to me. Steve I don't understand how the growing and eating qualities of pea cultivars is off topic for rec.gardens.edible or was two sentences about cooking old peas too much? David Just as I don't understand my question about eating corn silk being taken by some as not relevant to this newsgroup. BTW, my post above is meant to be taken with a grain of salt. It will give it the proper flavor............. Steve |
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"Derald" wrote in message ... "David Hare-Scott" wrote: I don't understand how the growing and eating qualities of pea cultivars is off topic for rec.gardens.edible or was two sentences about cooking old peas too much? Growing them and cooking them do seem complementary but, hey, playing topic police may be the high point of his day and if that's all it takes to make little stevie feel useful, well, let him have at it, say I. I'm grateful to have contributed to another's sense of self worth. Truth is, I had thought to suggest that perhaps the thread had drifted a bit but Nanny beat me to it. Are "southern peas" , AKA cowpeas, cultivated in your neck of the woods? -- Derald FL USDA zone 9a http://www.onlineconversion.com/ I thought you had me killfiled. |
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Derald wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote: I don't understand how the growing and eating qualities of pea cultivars is off topic for rec.gardens.edible or was two sentences about cooking old peas too much? Growing them and cooking them do seem complementary but, hey, playing topic police may be the high point of his day and if that's all it takes to make little stevie feel useful, well, let him have at it, say I. I'm grateful to have contributed to another's sense of self worth. Truth is, I had thought to suggest that perhaps the thread had drifted a bit but Nanny beat me to it. Are "southern peas" , AKA cowpeas, cultivated in your neck of the woods? Yes, they are usually used as stock feed and/or green manure not human food. We miss out on a number of cuisines and types of ingredients that are common in the USA. I dare say the converse is also true. There is no customary way to cook cowpeas so either you have to go it alone from recipe books or pay big money in a big city restaurant where some chef has 'discovered' some cuisine that uses them. Oz has undergone a food revolution in the last 50 years and there is no sign of it abating. Some vegetables such as okra have gone through an adoption process and are now not so rare here, so you can get them in better grocers and ordinary people like me grow them. Okra appears to have originated from Africa and arrived in the US with the slave trade. I guess cowpeas did the same. So maybe we will be eating cowpeas in years to come. I haven't taken time to play with them as I don't especially need a legume to improve my soil and many legumes (eg standard peas , broad beans etc) use up resources to grow large amounts of greenery for a small edible crop and they take time to prepare. I don't find the calories available or the flavour worth the trouble in many cases. If I am wrong about the wonderous taste of cowpeas tell me about it. David |
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