In another thread, there's mention of making a hot pepper insecticide.
Since it wouldn't kill the insects, but just get them to leave the plant
alone, does that make it an insecticide which "cide" infers death?

Minor point, now to the major one.

When I lived in Louisiana, the bug capitol of the Universe, I learned the
following recipe for "bug repellent" from an old Cajun.

Get a plug of "Days Work" tobacco, if you can find it in your area. If not,
any leaf chewing tobacco will work. Day's Work was way cheap back then
(1970's) and it was sold everywhere.

Get some Dawn dishwashing solution.

Get some mouthwash.

Boil about one cubic inch of Day's work in a quart of water for about ten
minutes. Let cool.

Get a gallon milk jug.

Strain the quart of Day's Work tea into your gallon jug through a panty hose
and funnel to remove the things that will clog up your empty Windex sprayer.

Add 1 tbsp. Dawn.

Add 6 fl. oz. of ANY mouthwash.

Add enough water to fill the gallon jug.

Put into an old Windex or any hand sprayer (guess you could make gallons and
use a big pump sprayer), and spray your plants.

When I had lots of aphids, you could actually see the aphids HOP OFF THE
PLANT within 30 seconds while I was standing there.

This stuff stays on the plant for a good while. If it is absorbed into the
plant, it is nothing that will harm you if you ingest it. It can be sprayed
on the ground for cutworms, and things that crawl up from the bottom. You
can spray it on flowering plants, plants with developing fruit. You can
actually spray it on your lawn.

GOOD, CHEAP STUFF. It works! And it works reeeeeeeeal good.

Yer welcome.

Steve

Steve B wrote:
In another thread, there's mention of making a hot pepper insecticide.
Since it wouldn't kill the insects, but just get them to leave the
plant alone, does that make it an insecticide which "cide" infers
death?
Minor point, now to the major one.

When I lived in Louisiana, the bug capitol of the Universe, I learned
the following recipe for "bug repellent" from an old Cajun.

Get a plug of "Days Work" tobacco, if you can find it in your area. If
not, any leaf chewing tobacco will work. Day's Work was way cheap
back then (1970's) and it was sold everywhere.

Get some Dawn dishwashing solution.

Get some mouthwash.

Boil about one cubic inch of Day's work in a quart of water for about
ten minutes. Let cool.

Get a gallon milk jug.

Strain the quart of Day's Work tea into your gallon jug through a
panty hose and funnel to remove the things that will clog up your
empty Windex sprayer.
Add 1 tbsp. Dawn.

Add 6 fl. oz. of ANY mouthwash.

Add enough water to fill the gallon jug.

Put into an old Windex or any hand sprayer (guess you could make
gallons and use a big pump sprayer), and spray your plants.

When I had lots of aphids, you could actually see the aphids HOP OFF
THE PLANT within 30 seconds while I was standing there.

This stuff stays on the plant for a good while. If it is absorbed
into the plant, it is nothing that will harm you if you ingest it. It can
be sprayed on the ground for cutworms, and things that crawl
up from the bottom. You can spray it on flowering plants, plants
with developing fruit. You can actually spray it on your lawn.

GOOD, CHEAP STUFF. It works! And it works reeeeeeeeal good.

Yer welcome.

Steve

I just stole an' saved your repelling recipe ...
--
Snag
Learning keeps
you young !

Steve B wrote:
In another thread, there's mention of making a hot pepper insecticide.
Since it wouldn't kill the insects, but just get them to leave the
plant alone, does that make it an insecticide which "cide" infers
death?
Minor point, now to the major one.

When I lived in Louisiana, the bug capitol of the Universe, I learned
the following recipe for "bug repellent" from an old Cajun.

Get a plug of "Days Work" tobacco, if you can find it in your area. If
not, any leaf chewing tobacco will work. Day's Work was way cheap
back then (1970's) and it was sold everywhere.

Get some Dawn dishwashing solution.

Get some mouthwash.

Boil about one cubic inch of Day's work in a quart of water for about
ten minutes. Let cool.

Get a gallon milk jug.

Strain the quart of Day's Work tea into your gallon jug through a
panty hose and funnel to remove the things that will clog up your
empty Windex sprayer.
Add 1 tbsp. Dawn.

Add 6 fl. oz. of ANY mouthwash.

Add enough water to fill the gallon jug.

Put into an old Windex or any hand sprayer (guess you could make
gallons and use a big pump sprayer), and spray your plants.

When I had lots of aphids, you could actually see the aphids HOP OFF
THE PLANT within 30 seconds while I was standing there.

This stuff stays on the plant for a good while. If it is absorbed
into the plant, it is nothing that will harm you if you ingest it.

This is false.

It can be sprayed on the ground for cutworms, and things that crawl
up from the bottom. You can spray it on flowering plants, plants
with developing fruit. You can actually spray it on your lawn.

GOOD, CHEAP STUFF. It works! And it works reeeeeeeeal good.

Yer welcome.

Steve

This will work alright as you are spraying with nicotine which is quite
poisonous. Do not ingest this liquid, especially the concentrate.

Just because it comes from tobacco, arguably a natural product, does NOT
mean that it is safe for humans or pets.

See he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_poisoning

"Nicotine poisoning describes the symptoms of the toxic effects of consuming
nicotine, which can potentially be deadly. Historically, most cases of
nicotine poisoning have been the result of use of nicotine as an
insecticide."

David

Steve B wrote:

In another thread, there's mention of making a hot pepper insecticide.
Since it wouldn't kill the insects, but just get them to leave the plant
alone, does that make it an insecticide which "cide" infers death?

Minor point, now to the major one.

When I lived in Louisiana, the bug capitol of the Universe, I learned the
following recipe for "bug repellent" from an old Cajun.

Get a plug of "Days Work" tobacco, if you can find it in your area. If not,
any leaf chewing tobacco will work. Day's Work was way cheap back then
(1970's) and it was sold everywhere.

Get some Dawn dishwashing solution.

Get some mouthwash.

Boil about one cubic inch of Day's work in a quart of water for about ten
minutes. Let cool.
....

i seem to recall there being some tobacco
diseases that you'd not like spread to a garden?

am i mistaken in this?


songbird

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
In another thread, there's mention of making a hot pepper insecticide.
Since it wouldn't kill the insects, but just get them to leave the
plant alone, does that make it an insecticide which "cide" infers
death?
Minor point, now to the major one.

When I lived in Louisiana, the bug capitol of the Universe, I learned
the following recipe for "bug repellent" from an old Cajun.

Get a plug of "Days Work" tobacco, if you can find it in your area. If
not, any leaf chewing tobacco will work. Day's Work was way cheap
back then (1970's) and it was sold everywhere.

Get some Dawn dishwashing solution.

Get some mouthwash.

Boil about one cubic inch of Day's work in a quart of water for about
ten minutes. Let cool.

Get a gallon milk jug.

Strain the quart of Day's Work tea into your gallon jug through a
panty hose and funnel to remove the things that will clog up your
empty Windex sprayer.
Add 1 tbsp. Dawn.

Add 6 fl. oz. of ANY mouthwash.

Add enough water to fill the gallon jug.

Put into an old Windex or any hand sprayer (guess you could make
gallons and use a big pump sprayer), and spray your plants.

When I had lots of aphids, you could actually see the aphids HOP OFF
THE PLANT within 30 seconds while I was standing there.

This stuff stays on the plant for a good while. If it is absorbed
into the plant, it is nothing that will harm you if you ingest it.

This is false.

It can be sprayed on the ground for cutworms, and things that crawl
up from the bottom. You can spray it on flowering plants, plants
with developing fruit. You can actually spray it on your lawn.

GOOD, CHEAP STUFF. It works! And it works reeeeeeeeal good.

Yer welcome.

Steve

This will work alright as you are spraying with nicotine which is quite
poisonous. Do not ingest this liquid, especially the concentrate.

Just because it comes from tobacco, arguably a natural product, does NOT
mean that it is safe for humans or pets.

See he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_poisoning

"Nicotine poisoning describes the symptoms of the toxic effects of
consuming nicotine, which can potentially be deadly. Historically, most
cases of nicotine poisoning have been the result of use of nicotine as an
insecticide."

David

Would one mix that with vermouth, or creme de menthe? Maybe like an old
fashioned, a little simple syrup, some bourbon and bitters? Would eight
glasses be enough, or too much?

Steve

"songbird" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:

In another thread, there's mention of making a hot pepper insecticide.
Since it wouldn't kill the insects, but just get them to leave the plant
alone, does that make it an insecticide which "cide" infers death?

Minor point, now to the major one.

When I lived in Louisiana, the bug capitol of the Universe, I learned the
following recipe for "bug repellent" from an old Cajun.

Get a plug of "Days Work" tobacco, if you can find it in your area. If
not,
any leaf chewing tobacco will work. Day's Work was way cheap back then
(1970's) and it was sold everywhere.

Get some Dawn dishwashing solution.

Get some mouthwash.

Boil about one cubic inch of Day's work in a quart of water for about ten
minutes. Let cool.
...

i seem to recall there being some tobacco
diseases that you'd not like spread to a garden?

am i mistaken in this?


songbird

You may be thinking of tobacco mosaic
http://www.extension.umn.edu/distrib...re/dg1168.html which can
harm plenty of garden plants. Although I do not know if its going to
survive the processing done here. I would still be aware of the nicotine
content though.

Mike

In article ,
"Steve B" wrote:

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
In another thread, there's mention of making a hot pepper insecticide.
Since it wouldn't kill the insects, but just get them to leave the
plant alone, does that make it an insecticide which "cide" infers
death?
Minor point, now to the major one.

When I lived in Louisiana, the bug capitol of the Universe, I learned
the following recipe for "bug repellent" from an old Cajun.

Get a plug of "Days Work" tobacco, if you can find it in your area. If
not, any leaf chewing tobacco will work. Day's Work was way cheap
back then (1970's) and it was sold everywhere.

Get some Dawn dishwashing solution.

Get some mouthwash.

Boil about one cubic inch of Day's work in a quart of water for about
ten minutes. Let cool.

Get a gallon milk jug.

Strain the quart of Day's Work tea into your gallon jug through a
panty hose and funnel to remove the things that will clog up your
empty Windex sprayer.
Add 1 tbsp. Dawn.

Add 6 fl. oz. of ANY mouthwash.

Add enough water to fill the gallon jug.

Put into an old Windex or any hand sprayer (guess you could make
gallons and use a big pump sprayer), and spray your plants.

When I had lots of aphids, you could actually see the aphids HOP OFF
THE PLANT within 30 seconds while I was standing there.

This stuff stays on the plant for a good while. If it is absorbed
into the plant, it is nothing that will harm you if you ingest it.

This is false.

It can be sprayed on the ground for cutworms, and things that crawl
up from the bottom. You can spray it on flowering plants, plants
with developing fruit. You can actually spray it on your lawn.

GOOD, CHEAP STUFF. It works! And it works reeeeeeeeal good.

Yer welcome.

Steve

This will work alright as you are spraying with nicotine which is quite
poisonous. Do not ingest this liquid, especially the concentrate.

Just because it comes from tobacco, arguably a natural product, does NOT
mean that it is safe for humans or pets.

See he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_poisoning

"Nicotine poisoning describes the symptoms of the toxic effects of
consuming nicotine, which can potentially be deadly. Historically, most
cases of nicotine poisoning have been the result of use of nicotine as an
insecticide."

David

Would one mix that with vermouth, or creme de menthe? Maybe like an old
fashioned, a little simple syrup, some bourbon and bitters? Would eight
glasses be enough, or too much?

Steve

And there is enough nicotine in one cigarette to kill a person, if it
all got into your blood stream. Nicotine is good for decorative plants,
but not good for food crops.
--
- Billy
Both the House and Senate budget plan would have cut Social Security and Medicare, while cutting taxes on the wealthy.

Kucinich noted that none of the government programs targeted for
elimination or severe cutback in House Republican spending plans
"appeared on the GAO's list of government programs at high risk of
waste, fraud and abuse."
http://www.politifact.com/ohio/state...is-kucinich/re
p-dennis-kucinich-says-gop-budget-cuts-dont-targ/

[W]e have the situation with the deficit and the debt and spending and jobs. And it¹s not that difficult to get out of it. The first thing you do is you get rid of corporate welfare. That¹s hundreds of billions of dollars a year. The second is you tax corporations so that they don¹t get away with no taxation.
- Ralph Nader
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/19/ralph_naders_solution_to_debt_crisis

Steve B wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
In another thread, there's mention of making a hot pepper
insecticide. Since it wouldn't kill the insects, but just get them
to leave the plant alone, does that make it an insecticide which
"cide" infers death?
Minor point, now to the major one.

When I lived in Louisiana, the bug capitol of the Universe, I
learned the following recipe for "bug repellent" from an old Cajun.

Get a plug of "Days Work" tobacco, if you can find it in your area.
If not, any leaf chewing tobacco will work. Day's Work was way
cheap back then (1970's) and it was sold everywhere.

Get some Dawn dishwashing solution.

Get some mouthwash.

Boil about one cubic inch of Day's work in a quart of water for
about ten minutes. Let cool.

Get a gallon milk jug.

Strain the quart of Day's Work tea into your gallon jug through a
panty hose and funnel to remove the things that will clog up your
empty Windex sprayer.
Add 1 tbsp. Dawn.

Add 6 fl. oz. of ANY mouthwash.

Add enough water to fill the gallon jug.

Put into an old Windex or any hand sprayer (guess you could make
gallons and use a big pump sprayer), and spray your plants.

When I had lots of aphids, you could actually see the aphids HOP OFF
THE PLANT within 30 seconds while I was standing there.

This stuff stays on the plant for a good while. If it is absorbed
into the plant, it is nothing that will harm you if you ingest it.

This is false.

It can be sprayed on the ground for cutworms, and things that crawl
up from the bottom. You can spray it on flowering plants, plants
with developing fruit. You can actually spray it on your lawn.

GOOD, CHEAP STUFF. It works! And it works reeeeeeeeal good.

Yer welcome.

Steve

This will work alright as you are spraying with nicotine which is
quite poisonous. Do not ingest this liquid, especially the
concentrate. Just because it comes from tobacco, arguably a natural
product, does
NOT mean that it is safe for humans or pets.

See he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_poisoning

"Nicotine poisoning describes the symptoms of the toxic effects of
consuming nicotine, which can potentially be deadly. Historically,
most cases of nicotine poisoning have been the result of use of
nicotine as an insecticide."

David

Would one mix that with vermouth, or creme de menthe? Maybe like an
old fashioned, a little simple syrup, some bourbon and bitters? Would
eight glasses be enough, or too much?

Steve

What are you saying here, are you still claiming that "nothing that will
harm you if you ingest it", or are you saying just don't drink it? How will
you get that message through to kids and pets?

There are other ways of ingesting toxins instead of drinking them. One of
the aspects of modern farming that makes it dangerous is the opportunity to
ingest poisons. Do you think all those farmers deliberately drink the stuff
they work with? Ingesting includes inhaling and absorbing through the skin,
which are both easy to do if you are spraying.

I think it would be better for all if you just agreed that you slipped up
and that people should take care (as they should when using any poison in
the garden) not to ingest nicotine in this form. That would include the
usual precautions to keep the stuff away from children.

David

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
In another thread, there's mention of making a hot pepper
insecticide. Since it wouldn't kill the insects, but just get them
to leave the plant alone, does that make it an insecticide which
"cide" infers death?
Minor point, now to the major one.

When I lived in Louisiana, the bug capitol of the Universe, I
learned the following recipe for "bug repellent" from an old Cajun.

Get a plug of "Days Work" tobacco, if you can find it in your area.
If not, any leaf chewing tobacco will work. Day's Work was way
cheap back then (1970's) and it was sold everywhere.

Get some Dawn dishwashing solution.

Get some mouthwash.

Boil about one cubic inch of Day's work in a quart of water for
about ten minutes. Let cool.

Get a gallon milk jug.

Strain the quart of Day's Work tea into your gallon jug through a
panty hose and funnel to remove the things that will clog up your
empty Windex sprayer.
Add 1 tbsp. Dawn.

Add 6 fl. oz. of ANY mouthwash.

Add enough water to fill the gallon jug.

Put into an old Windex or any hand sprayer (guess you could make
gallons and use a big pump sprayer), and spray your plants.

When I had lots of aphids, you could actually see the aphids HOP OFF
THE PLANT within 30 seconds while I was standing there.

This stuff stays on the plant for a good while. If it is absorbed
into the plant, it is nothing that will harm you if you ingest it.

This is false.

It can be sprayed on the ground for cutworms, and things that crawl
up from the bottom. You can spray it on flowering plants, plants
with developing fruit. You can actually spray it on your lawn.

GOOD, CHEAP STUFF. It works! And it works reeeeeeeeal good.

Yer welcome.

Steve

This will work alright as you are spraying with nicotine which is
quite poisonous. Do not ingest this liquid, especially the
concentrate. Just because it comes from tobacco, arguably a natural
product, does
NOT mean that it is safe for humans or pets.

See he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_poisoning

"Nicotine poisoning describes the symptoms of the toxic effects of
consuming nicotine, which can potentially be deadly. Historically,
most cases of nicotine poisoning have been the result of use of
nicotine as an insecticide."

David

Would one mix that with vermouth, or creme de menthe? Maybe like an
old fashioned, a little simple syrup, some bourbon and bitters? Would
eight glasses be enough, or too much?

Steve

What are you saying here, are you still claiming that "nothing that will
harm you if you ingest it", or are you saying just don't drink it? How
will you get that message through to kids and pets?

There are other ways of ingesting toxins instead of drinking them. One of
the aspects of modern farming that makes it dangerous is the opportunity
to ingest poisons. Do you think all those farmers deliberately drink the
stuff they work with? Ingesting includes inhaling and absorbing through
the skin, which are both easy to do if you are spraying.

I think it would be better for all if you just agreed that you slipped up
and that people should take care (as they should when using any poison in
the garden) not to ingest nicotine in this form. That would include the
usual precautions to keep the stuff away from children.

David

Agreed. But for everyone that's getting their panties in a wad, we're
talking about misting very small amounts. And I would imagine that anyone
who uses this stuff would put it in their locked shed with the reeeeeeealy
nasty deadly stuff, away from pets and children. Out of the things in the
shed that can kill a person, this is in the 2/10 range, and that only if
someone intentionally drank a lot, and I don't see how they'd get past the
first gulp, and most of that would be vomited immediately.

Relax, people. Just trying to share something. It's inexpensive, it works.
But anyone can and do abuse anything. I won't be responsible if some NASCAR
bubba wants to substitute this for his chaw and tries to sneak it past the
gate in a coke bottle.

Steve



Steve

"Bloke Down The Pub" wrote in message
. au...

"songbird" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:

In another thread, there's mention of making a hot pepper insecticide.
Since it wouldn't kill the insects, but just get them to leave the plant
alone, does that make it an insecticide which "cide" infers death?

Minor point, now to the major one.

When I lived in Louisiana, the bug capitol of the Universe, I learned
the
following recipe for "bug repellent" from an old Cajun.

Get a plug of "Days Work" tobacco, if you can find it in your area. If
not,
any leaf chewing tobacco will work. Day's Work was way cheap back then
(1970's) and it was sold everywhere.

Get some Dawn dishwashing solution.

Get some mouthwash.

Boil about one cubic inch of Day's work in a quart of water for about
ten
minutes. Let cool.
...

i seem to recall there being some tobacco
diseases that you'd not like spread to a garden?

am i mistaken in this?


songbird

You may be thinking of tobacco mosaic
http://www.extension.umn.edu/distrib...re/dg1168.html which
can harm plenty of garden plants. Although I do not know if its going to
survive the processing done here. I would still be aware of the nicotine
content though.

Mike

If concerned, the nicotine content can be easily lessened by using less
tobacco. It don't take much.

Steve

On Oct 28, 3:28*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
In another thread, ......

Get a plug of "Days Work" tobacco, if you can find it in your area. *If not...


We had a big discussion on tobacco "cide" back in Feb to the same
basic end, specifically some felt one needs to label the product so
you do not drink it. The old Black Flag 40 myth was dispelled,as was
the myth of rubbing a cigarette on a rabbit's neck killed him. Here
is the relevant snip:

"The Colorado State link is general info on nicotine products with its
homepage below it
if you want further info. Just know nicotine is not the Antichrist's
power drink as outlined but use chewing tobacco. A common sense
approach to preparing and using any pesticide should be a sufficient
disclaimer.

http://npic.orst.edu/RMPP/rmpp_ch7.pdf
http://npic.orst.edu/

here are some easy to follow formularies to look over. One is
written for junior High School students by the University of Georgia
but still should answer your specific question:

http://mghc.org/2009/08/14/homemade-pesticides/

http://www.countryfarm-lifestyles.co...esticides.html

http://apps.caes.uga.edu/sbof/main/l...ePesticide.pdf

Two notes; do not use nicotine products on tomatoes or peppers
because of the possible spread of the tobacco mosaic virus and know
the difference between soap and detergent."

here is another site for pesticides I have bookmarked you might like:
http://mghc.org/2009/08/14/homemade-pesticides/