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I just read that spraying Epsom Salt on pepper plants and re applying
in 10 days makes a huge difference in the amount and size of the peppers. Spray at flowering time. True? False? MJ |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:33:20 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: I just read that spraying Epsom Salt on pepper plants and re applying in 10 days makes a huge difference in the amount and size of the peppers. Spray at flowering time. True? False? If you have a Magnesium deficiency. If not, there's no real benefit. Epsom Salts are Magnesium Sufate. Both elemental Magnesium and Sulfur are traces which plants generally desire in some small amount, and if your soil is lacking, applying this would help the plants.. |
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On Feb 21, 11:56*am, Sean Straw wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:33:20 -0800 (PST), " wrote: I just read that spraying Epsom Salt on pepper plants and re applying in 10 days makes a huge difference in the amount and size of the peppers. Spray at flowering time. True? False? If you have a Magnesium deficiency. *If not, there's no real benefit. Epsom Salts are Magnesium Sufate. *Both elemental Magnesium and Sulfur are traces which plants generally desire in some small amount, and if your soil is lacking, applying this would help the plants.. I am not sure if there is a deficiency, I did not have the soil tested this year. Will it hurt anything? Epsom is cheep |
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On Feb 21, 9:04*am, "
wrote: On Feb 21, 11:56*am, Sean Straw wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:33:20 -0800 (PST), " wrote: I just read that spraying Epsom Salt on pepper plants and re applying in 10 days makes a huge difference in the amount and size of the peppers. Spray at flowering time. True? False? If you have a Magnesium deficiency. *If not, there's no real benefit. Epsom Salts are Magnesium Sufate. *Both elemental Magnesium and Sulfur are traces which plants generally desire in some small amount, and if your soil is lacking, applying this would help the plants.. I am not sure if there is a deficiency, I did not have the soil tested this year. Will it hurt anything? Epsom is cheep Yet, if ya don't need it, don't use it. That is even cheaper. http://www.spectrumanalytic.com/supp.../Mg_Basics.htm |
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On Feb 21, 12:27*pm, Gunner wrote:
On Feb 21, 9:04*am, " wrote: On Feb 21, 11:56*am, Sean Straw wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:33:20 -0800 (PST), " wrote: I just read that spraying Epsom Salt on pepper plants and re applying in 10 days makes a huge difference in the amount and size of the peppers. Spray at flowering time. True? False? If you have a Magnesium deficiency. *If not, there's no real benefit. |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:42:25 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: I would really LOVE some great Bell Peppers this year. I have great luck with other kinds but I have yet to grow a great Bell Perhaps you should get your soil tested. Agricultural Extension offices usually offer these services. |
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On Feb 21, 12:53*pm, Sean Straw wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:42:25 -0800 (PST), " wrote: I would really LOVE some great Bell Peppers this year. I have great luck with other kinds but I have yet to grow a great Bell Perhaps you should get your soil tested. *Agricultural Extension offices usually offer these services. I have done that every year except this year. |
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wrote in message ... On Feb 21, 12:27 pm, Gunner wrote: On Feb 21, 9:04 am, " wrote: On Feb 21, 11:56 am, Sean Straw wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:33:20 -0800 (PST), " wrote: I just read that spraying Epsom Salt on pepper plants and re applying in 10 days makes a huge difference in the amount and size of the peppers. Spray at flowering time. True? False? If you have a Magnesium deficiency. If not, there's no real benefit. Epsom Salts are Magnesium Sufate. Both elemental Magnesium and Sulfur are traces which plants generally desire in some small amount, and if your soil is lacking, applying this would help the plants.. I am not sure if there is a deficiency, I did not have the soil tested this year. Will it hurt anything? Epsom is cheep Yet, if ya don't need it, don't use it. That is even cheaper. http://www.spectrumanalytic.com/supp.../Mg_Basics.htm I would really LOVE some great Bell Peppers this year. I have great luck with other kinds but I have yet to grow a great Bell Order a pkt of "Karma" from Park's, it's the very best bell I've ever grown. |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:41:09 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: I have done that every year except this year. What have past years' reports indicated about your garden soil needs? I'm not looking to start a gardening war, but unless I was running a big farm, I don't think I'd bother with yearly soil analysis - perhaps every 5 years if you generally followed the original suggested amendments and weren't doing anything odd in the garden. |
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On Feb 21, 2:47*pm, Sean Straw wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:41:09 -0800 (PST), " wrote: I have done that every year except this year. What have past years' reports indicated about your garden soil needs? I'm not looking to start a gardening war, but unless I was running a big farm, I don't think I'd bother with yearly soil analysis - perhaps every 5 years if you generally followed the original suggested amendments and weren't doing anything odd in the garden. Truth? I don't remember exactly but I never really understood the results and I was in the Master Gardener Program for a while. It was all explained to me and there was never anything very "off" so I guess I kinda stopped paying attention. The county I am in could never get an instructor for the class so it all fell apart. So I rotate my "crops" and use 10 10 10. |
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On Feb 22, 12:53*pm, songbird wrote:
wrote: no fertilizer other than buried organic materials, * 10-10-10 might encourage leaf production but not much else. *try laying off that for green peppers. * songbird OMG Bird!!!.... really? |
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Epsom salt is most commonly used on pepper, tomato and rose plants. This is because epsom salt is made from magnesium. Many pepper plants are planted in soil that is deficient in magnesium. The magnesium from the epsom salt is quickly absorbed by the plant to give it the nourishment it needs to grow. The epsom salt can be applied in spray form for the best results. Do not simply rely on epsom salt if your soil has a severe deficiency in magnesium. It will work, however, for low to moderate deficiencies. Spray the epsom salt solution on the pepper plants again when they first begin to flower. |
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On Feb 24, 12:35*am, allen73
wrote: ;951574 Wrote: I just read that spraying Epsom Salt on pepper plants and re applying in 10 days makes a huge difference in the amount and size of the peppers. Spray at flowering time. True? False? MJ Epsom salt is most commonly used on pepper, tomato and rose plants. This is because epsom salt is made from magnesium. Many pepper plants are planted in soil that is deficient in magnesium. The magnesium from the epsom salt is quickly absorbed by the plant to give it the nourishment it needs to grow. The epsom salt can be applied in spray form for the best results. Do not simply rely on epsom salt if your soil has a severe deficiency in magnesium. It will work, however, for low to moderate deficiencies. Spray the epsom salt solution on the pepper plants again when they first begin to flower. -- allen73 What makes this a fallacy is the word : MANY: as in ..."Many pepper plants are planted in soil that is deficient in magnesium." It is safe to say there are MANY soils that are not, so again; Test your soil if you are unsure and/or only add Mg if it is actually needed. |
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On Feb 23, 12:54*pm, Billy wrote:
In article , *songbird wrote: wrote: ... I would really LOVE some great Bell Peppers this year. I have great luck with other kinds but I have yet to grow a great Bell * how are you growing them? * we have very little trouble growing them here. *once in a while a tomato worm or a bit of rot. * full sun, heavy soil, no mulch, no fertilizer other than buried organic materials, planted after the soil is warm. * *try laying off that for green peppers. * songbird Uh, the first 10 in 10-10-10 (nitrogen) will encourage leaf production. I know you know that, but it may not be apparent to others. -- Billy billy's political BS snipped One of the birds wrote: 10-10-10 might encourage leaf production but not much else. Some folks are misrepresenting science here. N is essential to keep the plant growing and in good health. While excess N may encourage foliage at the expense of fruit in certain conditions, it is still required by the plant, even in the flowering/fruiting phase. |
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Billy wrote:
songbird wrote: mjciccarel wrote: ... I would really LOVE some great Bell Peppers this year. I have great luck with other kinds but I have yet to grow a great Bell how are you growing them? still waiting for an answer... .... 10-10-10 might encourage leaf production but not much else. try laying off that for green peppers. Uh, the first 10 in 10-10-10 (nitrogen) will encourage leaf production. I know you know that, but it may not be apparent to others. yes, thanks, mistyped there. and i do not dispute that a pepper plant needs some nitrogen, but it can be the case that too much nitrogen encourages too much leaf production. but it could also be the case that the OP is doing something else that isn't helping the suitation. songbird |
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On Feb 25, 12:42*pm, songbird wrote:
Billy wrote: songbird wrote: mjciccarel wrote: ... I would really LOVE some great Bell Peppers this year. I have great luck with other kinds but I have yet to grow a great Bell * how are you growing them? * still waiting for an answer... ... * 10-10-10 might encourage leaf production but not much else. *try laying off that for green peppers. Uh, the first 10 in 10-10-10 (nitrogen) will encourage leaf production. I know you know that, but it may not be apparent to others. * yes, thanks, mistyped there. * and i do not dispute that a pepper plant needs some nitrogen, but it can be the case that too much nitrogen encourages too much leaf production. but it could also be the case that the OP is doing something else that isn't helping the suitation. * songbird I am not doing anything special to grow them. As I said I have used 10 10 10 in the past but I guess I won't be doing that anymore. Makes sense now that some of the peppers from last year were really small. These were not bell peppers. In fact if anyone is interested, the peppers came from Sams. Sams sells a bag of yellow, red and orange peppers that are great. I planted the seeds from them and have been growing them for about 3 years now. |
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On Feb 26, 12:02*am, songbird wrote:
wrote: ... Makes sense now that some of the peppers from last year were really small. These were not bell peppers. In fact if anyone is interested, the peppers came from Sams. Sams sells a bag of yellow, red and orange peppers that are great. I planted the seeds from them and have been growing them for about 3 years now. * you might be using seeds from a hybrid variety and that can cause the sort of thing you are experiencing here. * for a few $ get some seeds from a known source. *well worth eliminating that variable from the equation. * if i had some here i would send them to ya. *:) * songbird I don't think it is the seeds and I love these peppers. With the amount of foliage on the plants and the fact that I packed them into the garden too tight makes me think it is the other problems. This year I will make some changes and see what happens. Thanks for a ll the input MJ |
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On Feb 25, 5:25*pm, Billy wrote:
Don't fertilize after it flowers. -- Billy (Non gardening and Fringe Political BS snipped) Just more Old wife's tales not supported by any real science billy. “It isn’t what people don’t know that hurts them. It’s what they do know that just ain’t so." Will Rogers |
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songbird wrote:
wrote: ... I don't think it is the seeds and I love these peppers. With the amount of foliage on the plants and the fact that I packed them into the garden too tight makes me think it is the other problems. This year I will make some changes and see what happens. Thanks for a ll the input ok, we planted 20 green pepper plants in an area of about 6x6ft. we had three crops totaling around 300 peppers. I planted 18 habenero plants in a 6x6ft area and learned a big lesson - that is plant your peppers in a north to south columns with 2ft intervals. But from east to west, you'll need at least 3 ft. That's 12 plants in a 6x6 garden. I had two 6x6 garden plots and the 12 plant garden out produced the 18 plant garden. If you planted early, mid and late season Bell peppers, you might get away with overcrowding. |
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Dick Adams wrote:
songbird wrote: wrote: ... I don't think it is the seeds and I love these peppers. With the amount of foliage on the plants and the fact that I packed them into the garden too tight makes me think it is the other problems. This year I will make some changes and see what happens. Thanks for a ll the input ok, we planted 20 green pepper plants in an area of about 6x6ft. we had three crops totaling around 300 peppers. I planted 18 habenero plants in a 6x6ft area and learned a big lesson - that is plant your peppers in a north to south columns with 2ft intervals. But from east to west, you'll need at least 3 ft. That's 12 plants in a 6x6 garden. I had two 6x6 garden plots and the 12 plant garden out produced the 18 plant garden. If you planted early, mid and late season Bell peppers, you might get away with overcrowding. Planting in north-south rows is preferred for all veges that need full sun. [Of course in the antipodes we plant in south-north rows!] Whether you can get away with overcrowding depends on which resource is the limiting factor for growth. If sunlight is not the limit then with better soil you can plant closer than with poorer. D |
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David Hare-Scott wrote:
Dick Adams wrote: I planted 18 habenero plants in a 6x6ft area and learned a big lesson - that is plant your peppers in a north to south columns with 2ft intervals. But from east to west, you'll need at least 3 ft. That's 12 plants in a 6x6 garden. I had two 6x6 garden plots and the 12 plant garden out produced the 18 plant garden. If you planted early, mid and late season Bell peppers, you might get away with overcrowding. Planting in north-south rows is preferred for all veges that need full sun. [Of course in the antipodes we plant in south-north rows!] Wierd things happen when you're born upside down. ;) Whether you can get away with overcrowding depends on which resource is the limiting factor for growth. If sunlight is not the limit then with better soil you can plant closer than with poorer. You are obviously currect in spite of your reverse polarity. |
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David Hare-Scott wrote:
As long as you're an antipodinal, I'd like to tell you of my mate, Simon. The little bugger died owing me 3 slabs of bitters. Someone suggested I have his head stone engraved "He died like a true Australian" ;) |
Habanero peppers generally do better in a regular or raised garden bed, and they love the heat and the sun, so choose a sunny location. If you don't have access to a garden plot, you can successfully grow habanero peppers in containers, making these tasty treats a great choice for apartment dwellers. Habanero peppers also can be grown in indoors with the help of an indoor gardening system, such as the popular AeroGarden.
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Dick Adams wrote:
.... If you planted early, mid and late season Bell peppers, you might get away with overcrowding. it was three crops from a single planting, raised bed, full sun, heavy clay soil, no mulch, no fertilizer, soil amended with organic materials only the previous fall. watered when dry for longer than a week. they could take a fair bit of abuse. the 2nd harvest was so thick and often wrapped around stems that a fair bit of damage was done in the process. still didn't stop them from putting on another round of growth and fruits. we had a lot of heat and sunshine last summer, i'm sure that helped too. songbird |
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On Feb 25, 11:04*am, "
wrote: On Feb 25, 12:42*pm, songbird wrote: I am not doing anything special to grow them. As I said I have used 10 10 10 in the past but I guess I won't be doing that anymore. Why? Your plant requires a steady supply of N throughout its life cycle. A BALANCED fertilizer, ie.a 5-5-5 or a 10-10-10 is strongly recommended by most Ag experts. These garden variety pseudo- scientists are stupidly attempting to infer you do not need N when the plant begins to set fruit, when in fact it is EXCESS nitrogen, as well as other factors, such as soil and climate that affects the vegatative phase. Cutting out N is ludicrous in any viable nutrient management program. |
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Dick Adams wrote:
David Hare-Scott wrote: As long as you're an antipodinal, I'd like to tell you of my mate, Simon. The little bugger died owing me 3 slabs of bitters. Someone suggested I have his head stone engraved "He died like a true Australian" ;) You mean he died much younger than the white man of largely preventable diseases, excessive consumption of intoxicants and inadequate medical services? D |
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David Hare-Scott wrote:
Dick Adams wrote: David Hare-Scott wrote: ... As long as you're an antipodinal, I'd like to tell you of my mate, Simon. The little bugger died owing me 3 slabs of bitters. Someone suggested I have his head stone engraved "He died like a true Australian" ;) You mean he died much younger than the white man of largely preventable diseases, excessive consumption of intoxicants and inadequate medical services? Wrong on all descriptors. He had a congenital form of muscular dystropathy, drank less than a six pack a week, didn't smoke legal or illegal stuff, and had more than adequate medical services. He even got more exercise than the average patient with his disease. This included participation in wheel chair sports and gardering via a raised garden bed. Of course, he suffered from the largely unpreventable antipod disorder of upsidedownitis. Dick |
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On Feb 29, 6:26*pm, (Dick Adams) wrote:
David Hare-Scott wrote: Dick Adams wrote: David Hare-Scott wrote: ... As long as you're an antipodinal, I'd like to tell you of my mate, Simon. *The little bugger died owing me 3 slabs of bitters. *Someone suggested I have his head stone engraved "He died like a true Australian" ;) You mean he died much younger than the white man of largely preventable diseases, excessive consumption of intoxicants and inadequate medical services? Wrong on all descriptors. *He had a congenital form of muscular dystropathy, drank less than a six pack a week, didn't smoke legal or illegal stuff, and had more than adequate medical services. *He even got more exercise than the average patient with his disease. *This included participation in wheel chair sports and gardering via a raised garden bed. *Of course, he suffered from the largely unpreventable antipod disorder of upsidedownitis. Dick My Gosh, all this about peppers. I am exausted. Gee what else can I start? |
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"Dick Adams" wrote in message ... David Hare-Scott wrote: Dick Adams wrote: David Hare-Scott wrote: ... As long as you're an antipodinal, I'd like to tell you of my mate, Simon. The little bugger died owing me 3 slabs of bitters. Someone suggested I have his head stone engraved "He died like a true Australian" ;) You mean he died much younger than the white man of largely preventable diseases, excessive consumption of intoxicants and inadequate medical services? Wrong on all descriptors. He had a congenital form of muscular dystropathy, drank less than a six pack a week, didn't smoke legal or illegal stuff, and had more than adequate medical services. He even got more exercise than the average patient with his disease. This included participation in wheel chair sports and gardering via a raised garden bed. Of course, he suffered from the largely unpreventable antipod disorder of upsidedownitis. Dick Ah you meant that Simon. We had a wake for him and there were 3 slabs with a note give these to Dick if he shows up. Well being aussie beer we had to turn it upside down and it all ran out, luckily we were able to catch most of it. Thanks for the beer . Mike PS If he only managed to drink 3 slabs more than you he wasn't a "true Australian" |
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