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morel farming (was: Edible or not?
Jim Elbrecht wrote:
.... In another newsgroup, this would be called a 'Gloat' -- and my response would be "You suck".g Sure look like morels from here. I had some in my yard *once* 20 yrs ago. Best mushrooms ever-- And they never returned. Cut the stems, don't pluck them. Dry them, fry them, enjoy them. take a few and soak them in cool water overnight. go out and dig a trench off to the side someplace you don't mind not mowing for a bit if mushrooms appear. take some fruitwood sprinkle it with the water you've soaked morels in. bury. wait. hope. my bro hunts morels in the woods, takes his water from cleaning them and dumps it outside. now has morels in his yard. i took some water from morels and dumped it out here in several locations last year, but i suspect it will take more than one year for the fungal mass to be large enough to fruit. if it actually does something that would be great... songbird |
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morel farming (was: Edible or not?
"songbird" wrote in message ... Jim Elbrecht wrote: ... In another newsgroup, this would be called a 'Gloat' -- and my response would be "You suck".g Sure look like morels from here. I had some in my yard *once* 20 yrs ago. Best mushrooms ever-- And they never returned. Cut the stems, don't pluck them. Dry them, fry them, enjoy them. take a few and soak them in cool water overnight. go out and dig a trench off to the side someplace you don't mind not mowing for a bit if mushrooms appear. take some fruitwood sprinkle it with the water you've soaked morels in. bury. wait. hope. my bro hunts morels in the woods, takes his water from cleaning them and dumps it outside. now has morels in his yard. i took some water from morels and dumped it out here in several locations last year, but i suspect it will take more than one year for the fungal mass to be large enough to fruit. if it actually does something that would be great... songbird It is thought that at least some morels are mycoryzal, so pour your cleaning water near trees they associate with. Here in the Southern Appalachians those trees are tulip poplar, ash and apple. We don't have elms here, but morels are known to associate with same. There has been some success cultivating black morels on the west coast in Douglas fir chips. |
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morel farming
songbird wrote:
take a few and soak them in cool water overnight. go out and dig a trench off to the side someplace you don't mind not mowing for a bit if mushrooms appear. take some fruitwood sprinkle it with the water you've soaked morels in. bury. wait. hope. Has anyone anywhere ever managed to grow morel deliberately? I have never heard of any. |
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morel farming
"Doug Freyburger" wrote in message ... songbird wrote: take a few and soak them in cool water overnight. go out and dig a trench off to the side someplace you don't mind not mowing for a bit if mushrooms appear. take some fruitwood sprinkle it with the water you've soaked morels in. bury. wait. hope. Has anyone anywhere ever managed to grow morel deliberately? I have never heard of any. Yes, there are many kits available, but they are only about 30% successful. The most successful are the kits for the "burn site" morels. The process involves layering ash and charcoal along with the spawn. Do a "Google" search for morel kits, I believe you'll find quite a few. |
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Edible or not?
"Frank" wrote in message ... On 4/30/2012 4:54 PM, Steve Peek wrote: wrote in message ... In articlea4WdnVLkQ6loPQPSnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@earthlink .com, "Steve wrote: wrote in message ... In , "David wrote: Pat Kiewicz wrote: David Farber said: I found these mysterious things growing in my garden. The internet says they're Morel mushrooms and they may be safe to eat. I would definitely like a second opinion about that. I found this webpage with some information about that. And the photo of the ones in my garden is he http://webpages.charter.net/mrfixite.../Mushrooms.jpg Morels are the easiest mushroom to properly identify, and yes, they can sometimes be found growing in a back yard. Your mushrooms do, indeed, look like edible morels, but a full ID would require looking at the stem and cutting one in half. True morels have hollow stems that connect directly to the cap. False morels either do not have hollow stems or the cap hangs down over the stem. Check out these links: http://thegreatmorel.com/falsemorel.html http://thegreatmorel.com/falsemorel2.html A couple of years back we had a prolonged cool, wet spring and a couple of dead or dying fruit trees in the back yard, which resulted in a spectacular crop of extremely delicious morels. Here is the mushroom sliced open. http://webpages.charter.net/mrfixite...orel-slice.jpg It looks like the good, hollow kind, right? Thanks for your reply. Don't be a fool. Take it to Cal Poly. Don't be a fool, it's a clump of morels!!!!! I've been picking them for over 40 years, I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE!!!!! You'd bet his life on it? He is 18 min. from Cuesta College, and 25 min. from UC Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo. Seems a small price for an expert's opinion, who would be in the presence of the mushroom, rather than someone who is simply looking at a picture of it. This isn't about your pride. Mushroom pickers die every year from mistaken identity. Why shouldn't David avail himself of the very best best advice? Of course one should avail themselves of the best advise available, always. There is ABSOLUTELY no other fungus that looks like that. Some are close, but not like that. I've been picking them for over 40 years! Would you like to wager that I'm wrong? I can't bet my life on it (I'm on the other coast) but I'll cover anything up to a million or so (US, in cash of course). From stuff I read and all the utubes online, I would not be afraid to try them without going to the trouble of seeking out local experts first. I finally found an expert. He came by the house and inspected them. After giving me a thorough disclaimer about following his expert advice, he consulted two reference books (both written by David Arora) and said they were edible mushrooms. We went around and picked quite a few and he explained the differences between the dry ones (they need to be soaked first) and the fresher, moist ones. He said to cook and eat a small amount to begin with and make sure that there were no food allergy reactions. If everything was ok after that, then they could be seasoned to our liking. He also said never eat them without cooking them first. Thanks to everyone for your input. -- David Farber Los Osos, CA |
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Edible or not?
David Farber said:
I finally found an expert. He came by the house and inspected them. After giving me a thorough disclaimer about following his expert advice, he consulted two reference books (both written by David Arora) and said they were edible mushrooms. We went around and picked quite a few and he explained the differences between the dry ones (they need to be soaked first) and the fresher, moist ones. He said to cook and eat a small amount to begin with and make sure that there were no food allergy reactions. If everything was ok after that, then they could be seasoned to our liking. He also said never eat them without cooking them first. Good news all around. Even an expert consulted a reference or two first, eh? "There are old mushroom hunters and bold mushroom hunters, but there are no old, bold mushroom hunters." -- Pat in Plymouth MI "Yes, swooping is bad." email valid but not regularly monitored |
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Edible or not?
"Pat Kiewicz" wrote in message ... David Farber said: I finally found an expert. He came by the house and inspected them. After giving me a thorough disclaimer about following his expert advice, he consulted two reference books (both written by David Arora) and said they were edible mushrooms. We went around and picked quite a few and he explained the differences between the dry ones (they need to be soaked first) and the fresher, moist ones. He said to cook and eat a small amount to begin with and make sure that there were no food allergy reactions. If everything was ok after that, then they could be seasoned to our liking. He also said never eat them without cooking them first. Good news all around. Even an expert consulted a reference or two first, eh? "There are old mushroom hunters and bold mushroom hunters, but there are no old, bold mushroom hunters." I totally agree, but the morel is the first mushroom we teach children. It's a shame I couldn't teach the "children" here. |
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Edible or not?
"David Farber" wrote in message ... "Frank" wrote in message ... On 4/30/2012 4:54 PM, Steve Peek wrote: wrote in message ... In articlea4WdnVLkQ6loPQPSnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@earthlink .com, "Steve wrote: wrote in message ... In , "David wrote: Pat Kiewicz wrote: David Farber said: I found these mysterious things growing in my garden. The internet says they're Morel mushrooms and they may be safe to eat. I would definitely like a second opinion about that. I found this webpage with some information about that. And the photo of the ones in my garden is he http://webpages.charter.net/mrfixite.../Mushrooms.jpg Morels are the easiest mushroom to properly identify, and yes, they can sometimes be found growing in a back yard. Your mushrooms do, indeed, look like edible morels, but a full ID would require looking at the stem and cutting one in half. True morels have hollow stems that connect directly to the cap. False morels either do not have hollow stems or the cap hangs down over the stem. Check out these links: http://thegreatmorel.com/falsemorel.html http://thegreatmorel.com/falsemorel2.html A couple of years back we had a prolonged cool, wet spring and a couple of dead or dying fruit trees in the back yard, which resulted in a spectacular crop of extremely delicious morels. Here is the mushroom sliced open. http://webpages.charter.net/mrfixite...orel-slice.jpg It looks like the good, hollow kind, right? Thanks for your reply. Don't be a fool. Take it to Cal Poly. Don't be a fool, it's a clump of morels!!!!! I've been picking them for over 40 years, I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE!!!!! You'd bet his life on it? He is 18 min. from Cuesta College, and 25 min. from UC Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo. Seems a small price for an expert's opinion, who would be in the presence of the mushroom, rather than someone who is simply looking at a picture of it. This isn't about your pride. Mushroom pickers die every year from mistaken identity. Why shouldn't David avail himself of the very best best advice? Of course one should avail themselves of the best advise available, always. There is ABSOLUTELY no other fungus that looks like that. Some are close, but not like that. I've been picking them for over 40 years! Would you like to wager that I'm wrong? I can't bet my life on it (I'm on the other coast) but I'll cover anything up to a million or so (US, in cash of course). From stuff I read and all the utubes online, I would not be afraid to try them without going to the trouble of seeking out local experts first. I finally found an expert. He came by the house and inspected them. After giving me a thorough disclaimer about following his expert advice, he consulted two reference books (both written by David Arora) and said they were edible mushrooms. If he had to consult a reference for morels he is NOT an expert!!!!! |
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Edible or not?
On Sat, 12 May 2012 07:41:18 -0400, "Steve Peek"
wrote: "David Farber" wrote in message ... "Frank" wrote in message ... On 4/30/2012 4:54 PM, Steve Peek wrote: wrote in message ... In articlea4WdnVLkQ6loPQPSnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@earthlink .com, "Steve wrote: wrote in message ... In , "David wrote: Pat Kiewicz wrote: David Farber said: I found these mysterious things growing in my garden. The internet says they're Morel mushrooms and they may be safe to eat. I would definitely like a second opinion about that. I found this webpage with some information about that. And the photo of the ones in my garden is he http://webpages.charter.net/mrfixite.../Mushrooms.jpg Morels are the easiest mushroom to properly identify, and yes, they can sometimes be found growing in a back yard. Your mushrooms do, indeed, look like edible morels, but a full ID would require looking at the stem and cutting one in half. True morels have hollow stems that connect directly to the cap. False morels either do not have hollow stems or the cap hangs down over the stem. Check out these links: http://thegreatmorel.com/falsemorel.html http://thegreatmorel.com/falsemorel2.html A couple of years back we had a prolonged cool, wet spring and a couple of dead or dying fruit trees in the back yard, which resulted in a spectacular crop of extremely delicious morels. Here is the mushroom sliced open. http://webpages.charter.net/mrfixite...orel-slice.jpg It looks like the good, hollow kind, right? Thanks for your reply. Don't be a fool. Take it to Cal Poly. Don't be a fool, it's a clump of morels!!!!! I've been picking them for over 40 years, I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE!!!!! You'd bet his life on it? He is 18 min. from Cuesta College, and 25 min. from UC Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo. Seems a small price for an expert's opinion, who would be in the presence of the mushroom, rather than someone who is simply looking at a picture of it. This isn't about your pride. Mushroom pickers die every year from mistaken identity. Why shouldn't David avail himself of the very best best advice? Of course one should avail themselves of the best advise available, always. There is ABSOLUTELY no other fungus that looks like that. Some are close, but not like that. I've been picking them for over 40 years! Would you like to wager that I'm wrong? I can't bet my life on it (I'm on the other coast) but I'll cover anything up to a million or so (US, in cash of course). From stuff I read and all the utubes online, I would not be afraid to try them without going to the trouble of seeking out local experts first. I finally found an expert. He came by the house and inspected them. After giving me a thorough disclaimer about following his expert advice, he consulted two reference books (both written by David Arora) and said they were edible mushrooms. If he had to consult a reference for morels he is NOT an expert!!!!! I would assume he brought the book to show David a reliable reference and used it to point out important things to look for. As a teacher, not just an "expert." -- USA North Carolina Foothills USDA Zone 7a To find your extension office http://www.csrees.usda.gov/Extension/index.html |
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Edible or not?
The Cook wrote:
On Sat, 12 May 2012 07:41:18 -0400, "Steve Peek" wrote: "David Farber" wrote in message ... "Frank" wrote in message ... On 4/30/2012 4:54 PM, Steve Peek wrote: wrote in message ... In articlea4WdnVLkQ6loPQPSnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@earthlink .com, "Steve wrote: wrote in message ... In , "David wrote: Pat Kiewicz wrote: David Farber said: I found these mysterious things growing in my garden. The internet says they're Morel mushrooms and they may be safe to eat. I would definitely like a second opinion about that. I found this webpage with some information about that. And the photo of the ones in my garden is he http://webpages.charter.net/mrfixite.../Mushrooms.jpg Morels are the easiest mushroom to properly identify, and yes, they can sometimes be found growing in a back yard. Your mushrooms do, indeed, look like edible morels, but a full ID would require looking at the stem and cutting one in half. True morels have hollow stems that connect directly to the cap. False morels either do not have hollow stems or the cap hangs down over the stem. Check out these links: http://thegreatmorel.com/falsemorel.html http://thegreatmorel.com/falsemorel2.html A couple of years back we had a prolonged cool, wet spring and a couple of dead or dying fruit trees in the back yard, which resulted in a spectacular crop of extremely delicious morels. Here is the mushroom sliced open. http://webpages.charter.net/mrfixite...orel-slice.jpg It looks like the good, hollow kind, right? Thanks for your reply. Don't be a fool. Take it to Cal Poly. Don't be a fool, it's a clump of morels!!!!! I've been picking them for over 40 years, I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE!!!!! You'd bet his life on it? He is 18 min. from Cuesta College, and 25 min. from UC Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo. Seems a small price for an expert's opinion, who would be in the presence of the mushroom, rather than someone who is simply looking at a picture of it. This isn't about your pride. Mushroom pickers die every year from mistaken identity. Why shouldn't David avail himself of the very best best advice? Of course one should avail themselves of the best advise available, always. There is ABSOLUTELY no other fungus that looks like that. Some are close, but not like that. I've been picking them for over 40 years! Would you like to wager that I'm wrong? I can't bet my life on it (I'm on the other coast) but I'll cover anything up to a million or so (US, in cash of course). From stuff I read and all the utubes online, I would not be afraid to try them without going to the trouble of seeking out local experts first. I finally found an expert. He came by the house and inspected them. After giving me a thorough disclaimer about following his expert advice, he consulted two reference books (both written by David Arora) and said they were edible mushrooms. If he had to consult a reference for morels he is NOT an expert!!!!! I would assume he brought the book to show David a reliable reference and used it to point out important things to look for. As a teacher, not just an "expert." Bingo! He was explaining the difference between the edible and false Morels. -- David Farber Los Osos, CA |
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