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Ever used a pecan vibrator
I am going to shake the pecans off some trees locally that are just loaded.
I have them sold already. I have a vibrator that makes a 960# impact 4,000 times a minute. Used to shake railroad cars so they will dump. Get silos moving. That sort of thing. Anyway, I'm going to rig it up to trees with cables to the branches, and see how much vibration it will induce into the trees, and what it will take to shake the pecans off a tree. Anyone ever try this? I know that sometimes, a good wind will cause them to fall, and hope this works. Has anyone ever worked in that field, or had experience harvesting pecans this way? Steve |
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Steve B wrote:
I am going to shake the pecans off some trees locally that are just loaded. I have them sold already. I have a vibrator that makes a 960# impact 4,000 times a minute. Used to shake railroad cars so they will dump. Get silos moving. That sort of thing. Anyway, I'm going to rig it up to trees with cables to the branches, and see how much vibration it will induce into the trees, and what it will take to shake the pecans off a tree. Anyone ever try this? I know that sometimes, a good wind will cause them to fall, and hope this works. Has anyone ever worked in that field, or had experience harvesting pecans this way? Steve I have no idea so this is just a guess but I would think that a slower rate of vibration might to be less damped and get the branches moving better. D |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote I have no idea so this is just a guess but I would think that a slower rate of vibration might to be less damped and get the branches moving better. D I have done a lot of rigging in my life. Heavy stuff. 350 ton picks. I'm going to hook it up all with either hard cable or chain so as not to lose much of the action to the elasticity ropes or synthetic slings. This is going to be interesting, and I do want to do a youtube, so that I can send to prospective customers. There are literally tons and tons sitting on trees here that go to waste. Now, I'm brainstorming and daydreaming on cracking and cleaning them, as the price raises sharply. But I am going to try to sell all I can that are in the shell, just cleaned a little. I'm going to do it Monday if the wind is calm. First order is to drop about a 60' tall tree. Lucky me, no clean up at all. Steve Steve |
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"Steve B" wrote in message
I have done a lot of rigging in my life. Heavy stuff. 350 ton picks. I'm going to hook it up all with either hard cable or chain so as not to lose much of the action to the elasticity ropes or synthetic slings. Your words describing the use of "hard cable" or "chain" has given me a mental image of ringbarked trunks. I'm sure you wouldn't be so silly so I'm no closer to understanding what a pecan vibrator might work. Guess I'll have to wait to see the youtube clip to see if it operates anything like an olive tree shaker or other nut tree shakers. |
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Farm1 wrote:
"Steve B" wrote in message I have done a lot of rigging in my life. Heavy stuff. 350 ton picks. I'm going to hook it up all with either hard cable or chain so as not to lose much of the action to the elasticity ropes or synthetic slings. Your words describing the use of "hard cable" or "chain" has given me a mental image of ringbarked trunks. yeah, i was thinking that too. at least you need a strap or padding or you will get a partially ringed tree. and i would not attach it to branches but to the main trunk. I'm sure you wouldn't be so silly so I'm no closer to understanding what a pecan vibrator might work. this is usenet. silly is to be expected. Guess I'll have to wait to see the youtube clip to see if it operates anything like an olive tree shaker or other nut tree shakers. i'm unlikely to see a vid, but the frequency sounds very high, but if it gets the tree to vibrate that is likely to be enough. if anything, flicking the on/off switch should add enough chaos for it to be effective. songbird |
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songbird wrote:
Farm1 wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message I have done a lot of rigging in my life. Heavy stuff. 350 ton picks. I'm going to hook it up all with either hard cable or chain so as not to lose much of the action to the elasticity ropes or synthetic slings. Your words describing the use of "hard cable" or "chain" has given me a mental image of ringbarked trunks. yeah, i was thinking that too. at least you need a strap or padding or you will get a partially ringed tree. and i would not attach it to branches but to the main trunk. Me three. Sounds like an excellent way to trash the bark. A tree's resonance to get the branches moving will be way slower than you're talking. |
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Derald wrote:
...anything... welcome back to the funny farm. thanks for the interesting glimpses of the peacan grower's life. songbird |
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"Derald" wrote in message ... songbird wrote: welcome back to the funny farm. Gee, thanks. Just kinda been lurking around, lately. thanks for the interesting glimpses of the peacan grower's life. Hee; you spell it the way Southereners pronounce it ;-) -- Derald USDA9b Peninsular FL, USA We were in a different south. In Louisiana, they say either puh-cahns or pwah-cahns. Steve |
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"Derald" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote: We were in a different south. In Louisiana, they say either puh-cahns or pwah-cahns. Could be. I've heard variously pee-can, puh-cahn, p'cahn. Only been to LA twice and never made it past N.O. and Algiers. Tree nuts were not discussed on either occasion. How you coming on your rig? I'm looking forward to the photos/video. How you gonna get the nuts off the ground, just spread drop cloths? -- Derald USDA9b Peninsular FL, USA I tied it to a tree today, then took a strain with the loader to tighten up the chain. Not much vibration through the tree at all. Next, I think I'll try just strapping it to the trunk, and seeing how it goes. It appears that it is going to be difficult to shake the trees so they vibrate much on the ends, and rigging it high up in the branches is very difficult, and pecan trees are notoriously unsafe to climb. Sthil does sell a vibrator, SP200 that is a long pole with a chain saw engine on the bottom. Just depends on your reach, your strength, and your youth. Mine are all very low at this time in my life. I have a 2.5" vacuum that I shall test soon that I think a whole shell will pass through, hull and all. By tumbling, I hope that any with the hulls on them will be de-hulled by the time they reach the holding area of the vacuum. Maybe have to put in a metal plate where they shoot into the vacuum hopper to give the hulls a rap to dislodge the hulls. There is a lot of money in shelled pecans, but the cleaning machinery costs upwards to $15,000. I believe that I can go around now and get a lot of free or cheap pecans to practice on, and build a cleaner of some sorts. I can always sell them unshelled, and a lot of people buy them that way, as they run about $1.50 unshelled, and $6 shelled. More in some areas. It is a challenge, and I like challenges. And the good thing is that this happens every year, so I will have lots of time to arrange yards to clean up next year, and find buyers for the nuts. And putter making some machinery. It just bugs me to drive by and see all that money hanging on trees. Steve |
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"Derald" wrote How you coming on your rig? I'm looking forward to the photos/video. How you gonna get the nuts off the ground, just spread drop cloths? Sorry, didn't even answer question. I think I'll use tarps or a vacuum. If my vacuum idea works, it will take off the outer husks, too. It is difficult to reach most pecan trees on people's properties because of a lawn or the like. So, things that are portable, and have to be rigged up on site at the tree are the order of the day. At the orchards, they strategically planted the trees so a very large tractor can back up to the trees, attach itself, and shake, shake, shake. Got one person I'm cutting down a tree for that will let me play with the pecan trees to experiment on the real deal. No, the tree I'm cutting is not a pecan. Steve |
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Steve B wrote:
"Derald" wrote in message ... songbird wrote: welcome back to the funny farm. Gee, thanks. Just kinda been lurking around, lately. thanks for the interesting glimpses of the peacan grower's life. Hee; you spell it the way Southereners pronounce it ;-) -- Derald USDA9b Peninsular FL, USA We were in a different south. In Louisiana, they say either puh-cahns or pwah-cahns. Steve A pee-can is something totally different. Bob |
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"zxcvbob" wrote A pee-can is something totally different. Bob And it identifies the person as clueless. Steve |
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"Steve B" wrote in message
... "zxcvbob" wrote A pee-can is something totally different. Bob And it identifies the person as clueless. I disagree. Anyone who can't spot the difference between a peecan and a pecan should be in an institution where they can receive guided help to get to the toilet or the table. |
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Farm1 wrote:
"Steve B" wrote in message ... "zxcvbob" wrote A pee-can is something totally different. Bob And it identifies the person as clueless. I disagree. Anyone who can't spot the difference between a peecan and a pecan should be in an institution where they can receive guided help to get to the toilet or the table. this conversation is getting more and more piquant D |
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Derald wrote:
David Hare-Scott wrote: .... this conversation is getting more and more piquant oooow; still groaning here peek quant, what certain types of physicists do when firing up the LHC. as this is a gardening group i much prefer to give peas a chance. oh, and is chimp change banana peels? i give those to the worms and they are happy. songbird |
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