I have 6 - 4' x 12' x 12" raised gardens. Last year, did fab. This year,
we've had crazy weather (freezing cold well into April) and had to replace
plants twice due to frost burn. So, the garden is a bit behind this year, so
I'm not where I should be on a normal year. However, things are starting to
go a little, so I have hopes. My problem is this. One of my beds is for
tomato plants, a variety from big boys to better boys to Amelia to Heinz.
Average run of the mill tomatoes from the local Lowes. Planted, deep, caged,
watered, etc. Plants grew quite nicely, although slow to start due to
getting them in late. Started coming on well, nice fruit set, no obvious
issues. All of a sudden, it got quite hot here (I'm in Charleston, SC, not
sure what zone, but I think its 9). so I watered daily to keep up with the
drying soil as the temps got into the 90's every day. No rain for some time,
at least no to speak of to boost the garden. SO, about 3 days after the
temps started rising, I noticed that during the day, even after I had
watered, it looked like the plants were wilting. Overnight they would perk
up, but then about 3 days after that, they stopped perking up, even though I
watered. then they began to yellow, leaves curled, and the plant just
stopped growing or doing anything. Tomatoes all over them, and they looked
ok, but the plant itself, looked dead. SO research I did, for days on the
web. I know I have wilt. I do not know for sure which one. I took out 3
plants, looks like I have 2 more almost gone, and 2 more starting to show
the same signs. The soil in the bed was actually brought from a neighbor,
who moved and told me to take the bed and dirt. So I did. Then she told me,
btw I had the same problem with my tomatoes last year, same bed, same soil.
So, by my description can someone tell me what wilt I have? It appears that
I need to remove the plants from this bed and not plant them there again,
but it looks like I am supposed to do that for 4 years! Can I not use this
bed at all? Is there something I can plant in it's place that isn't
susceptible to wilt? Should I remove all the soil and replace? The info on
the net is so confusing that I am more unsure of what to do now than when I
started. I understand that some of the plants that I had in there were
supposed to be resistant, but they still went down. I tried to find more
plants with the FVNT on them, but local stores show none of those letters.
Some say disease resistant, but they don't say what disease they are
resistant to. I can post pictures I think tomorrow as I didn't think abut it
before writing this if it would help identify. I was hoping maybe I could
plant tomatoes in a different bead that has gone through a Bush Bean cycle
and move the second planting of bush beans to this bed. But I am not sure if
the wilt will just strike again. Any help would be greatly appreciated, sure
would like to get my tomatoes back on track for homemade salsa and sauce!
Thank for listening!


Oh, and the soil in all of the beds, including the infected one, is a mix of
black soil and mushroom compost, about 60-40 if I had to guess. I actually
helped the neighbor put her box in, it was one of the reasons I took it,
because I knew what was in it.

On Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:12:11 PM UTC-4, Bunny McElwee wrote:
I have 6 - 4' x 12' x 12" raised gardens. Last year, did fab. This year,

we've had crazy weather (freezing cold well into April) and had to replace

plants twice due to frost burn. So, the garden is a bit behind this year, so

I'm not where I should be on a normal year. However, things are starting to

go a little, so I have hopes. My problem is this. One of my beds is for

tomato plants, a variety from big boys to better boys to Amelia to Heinz.

Average run of the mill tomatoes from the local Lowes. Planted, deep, caged,

watered, etc. Plants grew quite nicely, although slow to start due to

getting them in late. Started coming on well, nice fruit set, no obvious

issues. All of a sudden, it got quite hot here (I'm in Charleston, SC, not

sure what zone, but I think its 9). so I watered daily to keep up with the

drying soil as the temps got into the 90's every day. No rain for some time,

at least no to speak of to boost the garden. SO, about 3 days after the

temps started rising, I noticed that during the day, even after I had

watered, it looked like the plants were wilting. Overnight they would perk

up, but then about 3 days after that, they stopped perking up, even though I

watered. then they began to yellow, leaves curled, and the plant just

stopped growing or doing anything. Tomatoes all over them, and they looked

ok, but the plant itself, looked dead. SO research I did, for days on the

web. I know I have wilt. I do not know for sure which one. I took out 3

plants, looks like I have 2 more almost gone, and 2 more starting to show

the same signs. The soil in the bed was actually brought from a neighbor,

who moved and told me to take the bed and dirt. So I did. Then she told me,

btw I had the same problem with my tomatoes last year, same bed, same soil.

So, by my description can someone tell me what wilt I have? It appears that

I need to remove the plants from this bed and not plant them there again,

but it looks like I am supposed to do that for 4 years! Can I not use this

bed at all? Is there something I can plant in it's place that isn't

susceptible to wilt? Should I remove all the soil and replace? The info on

the net is so confusing that I am more unsure of what to do now than when I

started. I understand that some of the plants that I had in there were

supposed to be resistant, but they still went down. I tried to find more

plants with the FVNT on them, but local stores show none of those letters..

Some say disease resistant, but they don't say what disease they are

resistant to. I can post pictures I think tomorrow as I didn't think abut it

before writing this if it would help identify. I was hoping maybe I could

plant tomatoes in a different bead that has gone through a Bush Bean cycle

and move the second planting of bush beans to this bed. But I am not sure if

the wilt will just strike again. Any help would be greatly appreciated, sure

would like to get my tomatoes back on track for homemade salsa and sauce!

Thank for listening!





Oh, and the soil in all of the beds, including the infected one, is a mix of

black soil and mushroom compost, about 60-40 if I had to guess. I actually

helped the neighbor put her box in, it was one of the reasons I took it,

because I knew what was in it.

I have had the same thing happen in my beds. I have taken 3 soil samples 3 different times to the local cooperative extension and they could not identify what was causing it. You can try tomatoes in the other beds but I would be surprised if they do well. It is hard to believe that whatever is in the "bad" bed isn't in the others as well. In my experience other plants have done just fine. Peppers, squash, zucchini and cucumbers have done well with no wilt. I too tried all the disease resistant plants to no avail. I feel your pain and it is frustrating as hell.
MJ

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On Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:12:11 PM UTC-4, Bunny McElwee wrote:
I have 6 - 4' x 12' x 12" raised gardens. Last year, did fab. This year,

we've had crazy weather (freezing cold well into April) and had to replace

plants twice due to frost burn. So, the garden is a bit behind this year,
so

I'm not where I should be on a normal year. However, things are starting
to

go a little, so I have hopes. My problem is this. One of my beds is for

tomato plants, a variety from big boys to better boys to Amelia to Heinz.

Average run of the mill tomatoes from the local Lowes. Planted, deep,
caged,

watered, etc. Plants grew quite nicely, although slow to start due to

getting them in late. Started coming on well, nice fruit set, no obvious

issues. All of a sudden, it got quite hot here (I'm in Charleston, SC, not

sure what zone, but I think its 9). so I watered daily to keep up with the

drying soil as the temps got into the 90's every day. No rain for some
time,

at least no to speak of to boost the garden. SO, about 3 days after the

temps started rising, I noticed that during the day, even after I had

watered, it looked like the plants were wilting. Overnight they would perk

up, but then about 3 days after that, they stopped perking up, even though
I

watered. then they began to yellow, leaves curled, and the plant just

stopped growing or doing anything. Tomatoes all over them, and they looked

ok, but the plant itself, looked dead. SO research I did, for days on the

web. I know I have wilt. I do not know for sure which one. I took out 3

plants, looks like I have 2 more almost gone, and 2 more starting to show

the same signs. The soil in the bed was actually brought from a neighbor,

who moved and told me to take the bed and dirt. So I did. Then she told
me,

btw I had the same problem with my tomatoes last year, same bed, same
soil.

So, by my description can someone tell me what wilt I have? It appears
that

I need to remove the plants from this bed and not plant them there again,

but it looks like I am supposed to do that for 4 years! Can I not use this

bed at all? Is there something I can plant in it's place that isn't

susceptible to wilt? Should I remove all the soil and replace? The info on

the net is so confusing that I am more unsure of what to do now than when
I

started. I understand that some of the plants that I had in there were

supposed to be resistant, but they still went down. I tried to find more

plants with the FVNT on them, but local stores show none of those letters.

Some say disease resistant, but they don't say what disease they are

resistant to. I can post pictures I think tomorrow as I didn't think abut
it

before writing this if it would help identify. I was hoping maybe I could

plant tomatoes in a different bead that has gone through a Bush Bean cycle

and move the second planting of bush beans to this bed. But I am not sure
if

the wilt will just strike again. Any help would be greatly appreciated,
sure

would like to get my tomatoes back on track for homemade salsa and sauce!

Thank for listening!





Oh, and the soil in all of the beds, including the infected one, is a mix
of

black soil and mushroom compost, about 60-40 if I had to guess. I actually

helped the neighbor put her box in, it was one of the reasons I took it,

because I knew what was in it.

I have had the same thing happen in my beds. I have taken 3 soil samples 3
different times to the local cooperative extension and they could not
identify what was causing it. You can try tomatoes in the other beds but I
would be surprised if they do well. It is hard to believe that whatever is
in the "bad" bed isn't in the others as well. In my experience other plants
have done just fine. Peppers, squash, zucchini and cucumbers have done well
with no wilt. I too tried all the disease resistant plants to no avail. I
feel your pain and it is frustrating as hell.
MJ



I was thinking maybe she got contaminated somehow, since I brought this
particular box and soil from her house to mine (she lives 30 min away from
me). Maybe she amended it at another time or something or introduced the
disease from her plantings? Especially since she said she had the same
problems with her tomatoes, and I never had any problems with them until I
used her box. We got the soil at the same time, planted at the same time
last year. She had problems, I didn't. Now I do, using her stuff. Your
right, very frustrating, and very curious!

On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 21:12:11 -0400, "Bunny McElwee"
wrote:

some snippage...

issues. All of a sudden, it got quite hot here (I'm in Charleston, SC, not
sure what zone, but I think its 9). so I watered daily to keep up with the
drying soil as the temps got into the 90's every day. No rain for some time,
at least no to speak of to boost the garden. SO, about 3 days after the
temps started rising, I noticed that during the day, even after I had
watered, it looked like the plants were wilting. Overnight they would perk
up, but then about 3 days after that, they stopped perking up, even though I
watered. then they began to yellow, leaves curled, and the plant just
stopped growing or doing anything. Tomatoes all over them, and they looked
ok, but the plant itself, looked dead. SO research I did, for days on the
web. I know I have wilt. I do not know for sure which one. I took out 3
plants, looks like I have 2 more almost gone, and 2 more starting to show
the same signs. The soil in the bed was actually brought from a neighbor,

Bunny, I had a very similar problem but mine involved peppers and
basil. Some were in raised beds, like yours, and some were in large
pots (whiskey barrel size). They started off well after transplanting
then wilted days later once the heat hit them and the rains dwindled
to nothing. Watering didn't seem to help them and they quickly died
no matter what I tried. I pulled them up, gathering as much
surrounding soil as I could, just in case. After checking everything,
it seems the plants themselves were contaminated/infected, apparently
at the nursery. The soil in the beds and planters was OK. I've since
planted replacements where those bad plants were and the new ones are
unaffected and still going strong. I hope that your soil is similarly
not infected but it sounds like something bad was in the soil, from
your description. Seems like it would have affected all the raised
beds that had that same soil in them. Hmm...

As for the tomato plants themselves, when you pulled up the plants did
you notice anything unusual about their root system? Do you know
which varieties were affected? Could they have been heirloom types?
Those old varieties have wonderful flavor but are not bred to combat
certain pests and diseases. The stress of excessive heat and little
rainfall certainly could have contributed to the plants' condition.
There could be a variety of causes that worked against your plants. I
know how frustrating it is to figure out the cause so that it doesn't
happen again.