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i've been trying to get the edamame soybeans
past sprout stage. the first batch were all
eaten by chipmunks as they sprouted.

i replanted many more and have been trying to
patrol once in a while and keep an eye on that
garden but it only takes a moment when you aren't
looking for the little buggers to get in there
and feast away.

so today i put some black oil sunflower seeds
out around the edges and that seems to have
helped keep the chipmunks from getting the few
sprouts that have started poking up.

tomorrow is forecast for rains and such, but
i will still go out once in a while and put down
some fresh seeds.

for the price of a few handfulls of sunflower
seeds i can accept the tradeoff ($11.00 for
40lbs).

once the soybeans are up and growing i should
not have to worry about the chipmunks bothering
them again until around when they start to flower,
fill the pods and get ready for harvest or the
later dry bean stage.

i need to refill my seed supply of these so i'm
trying not to be too anxious.

as a last resort there is also trapping and/or
hunting, but i'm hoping to stop spending time on
those things so i can get other garden tasks done.

the rest of the beans have been mostly left alone
other than some of the green bean seedlings and a
few of the others. considering how many i planted
overall i'm pretty happy with how the bean season
is going. i'll poke a few of the shorter season
beans in any empty spots if i don't see them
sprouting the next few days.


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On 6/21/2017 7:09 PM, songbird wrote:
i've been trying to get the edamame soybeans
past sprout stage. the first batch were all
eaten by chipmunks as they sprouted.

i replanted many more and have been trying to
patrol once in a while and keep an eye on that
garden but it only takes a moment when you aren't
looking for the little buggers to get in there
and feast away.

so today i put some black oil sunflower seeds
out around the edges and that seems to have
helped keep the chipmunks from getting the few
sprouts that have started poking up.

tomorrow is forecast for rains and such, but
i will still go out once in a while and put down
some fresh seeds.

for the price of a few handfulls of sunflower
seeds i can accept the tradeoff ($11.00 for
40lbs).

once the soybeans are up and growing i should
not have to worry about the chipmunks bothering
them again until around when they start to flower,
fill the pods and get ready for harvest or the
later dry bean stage.

i need to refill my seed supply of these so i'm
trying not to be too anxious.

as a last resort there is also trapping and/or
hunting, but i'm hoping to stop spending time on
those things so i can get other garden tasks done.

the rest of the beans have been mostly left alone
other than some of the green bean seedlings and a
few of the others. considering how many i planted
overall i'm pretty happy with how the bean season
is going. i'll poke a few of the shorter season
beans in any empty spots if i don't see them
sprouting the next few days.


songbird

I have a recipe for chipmunk stew around here somewhere. Do you want it?
BSEG

We don't have chipmunks but the woods rats come by once in awhile. The
mocking birds seem to take care of other bugs in the garden and they
might take a peck at a tomato every once in awhile.

We're waiting on the almost a hurricane to come by and give us some
rain, maybe, we hope.

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George Shirley wrote:
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I have a recipe for chipmunk stew around here somewhere. Do you want it?
BSEG


jeebus i'd have to be starving to consider
eating one of them. they're so tiny... a lot
of work to clean and prep for just a few bites.
instead when i do have them in the traps i
bury them in the gardens.


We don't have chipmunks but the woods rats come by once in awhile. The
mocking birds seem to take care of other bugs in the garden and they
might take a peck at a tomato every once in awhile.


we don't seem to have those sorts of birds up
here. catbirds are fun. they always make me
smile with their chattery calls.


We're waiting on the almost a hurricane to come by and give us some
rain, maybe, we hope.


good luck and be safe. we're on the edge of
a line of storms now, but perhaps we won't get
much of anything from them. that is ok, we've
had about 7 inches of rain the past several
days. it was dry enough for long enough that
not much ran off.


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On 6/22/2017 8:44 AM, songbird wrote:
George Shirley wrote:
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I have a recipe for chipmunk stew around here somewhere. Do you want it?
BSEG

jeebus i'd have to be starving to consider
eating one of them. they're so tiny... a lot
of work to clean and prep for just a few bites.
instead when i do have them in the traps i
bury them in the gardens.


We don't have chipmunks but the woods rats come by once in awhile. The
mocking birds seem to take care of other bugs in the garden and they
might take a peck at a tomato every once in awhile.

we don't seem to have those sorts of birds up
here. catbirds are fun. they always make me
smile with their chattery calls.


We're waiting on the almost a hurricane to come by and give us some
rain, maybe, we hope.

good luck and be safe. we're on the edge of
a line of storms now, but perhaps we won't get
much of anything from them. that is ok, we've
had about 7 inches of rain the past several
days. it was dry enough for long enough that
not much ran off.


songbird


Looks like light rain here all day . We need it ... but it does
change my plans for today , no working outside . Original forecast
called for "scattered showers" , but it's been raining steady - though
intensity has varied - since about 1 or 2 am .

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Terry Coombs wrote:
On 6/22/2017 8:44 AM, songbird wrote:
George wrote:

....
We're waiting on the almost a hurricane to come by and give us some
rain, maybe, we hope.


good luck and be safe. we're on the edge of
a line of storms now, but perhaps we won't get
much of anything from them. that is ok, we've
had about 7 inches of rain the past several
days. it was dry enough for long enough that
not much ran off.


Looks like light rain here all day . We need it ... but it does
change my plans for today , no working outside . Original forecast
called for "scattered showers" , but it's been raining steady - though
intensity has varied - since about 1 or 2 am .


we were predicted to get between 0.10 - 0.25 inches
of rain. we had about 4 inches last i looked.

gotta go out and do a quick check on things
as it looks like the rains have passed. been getting
the worm buckets set up again and cooking this
morning. a good day for inside chores...


songbird


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On 6/23/2017 12:32 PM, songbird wrote:
Terry Coombs wrote:
On 6/22/2017 8:44 AM, songbird wrote:
George wrote:

...
We're waiting on the almost a hurricane to come by and give us some
rain, maybe, we hope.


good luck and be safe. we're on the edge of
a line of storms now, but perhaps we won't get
much of anything from them. that is ok, we've
had about 7 inches of rain the past several
days. it was dry enough for long enough that
not much ran off.


Looks like light rain here all day . We need it ... but it does
change my plans for today , no working outside . Original forecast
called for "scattered showers" , but it's been raining steady - though
intensity has varied - since about 1 or 2 am .


we were predicted to get between 0.10 - 0.25 inches
of rain. we had about 4 inches last i looked.

gotta go out and do a quick check on things
as it looks like the rains have passed. been getting
the worm buckets set up again and cooking this
morning. a good day for inside chores...


songbird

We've gotten diddly squat, no rain but a few clouds. Was hoping on rain
but everything went up NE of us.

Here we go dragging hoses again. I am drawing up some plans to set up
some PVC piping to get water to areas in the vegetable gardens and the
fruit trees. Will put in a monitor to turn on water when needed the
most. Much easier to do that than to go around dragging a 100 foot hose.

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George Shirley wrote:
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Here we go dragging hoses again. I am drawing up some plans to set up
some PVC piping to get water to areas in the vegetable gardens and the
fruit trees. Will put in a monitor to turn on water when needed the
most. Much easier to do that than to go around dragging a 100 foot hose.


i run one long hose to the middle of an
area and then use splitters to run shorter
lengths in different directions from there.

hoses aren't that expensive for the lighter
shorter ones. the long one i get a heavy
duty version for a few $ more. 20yrs on
the oldest hose. have to get new ends once
in a while.


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On 6/23/2017 7:20 PM, songbird wrote:
George Shirley wrote:
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Here we go dragging hoses again. I am drawing up some plans to set up
some PVC piping to get water to areas in the vegetable gardens and the
fruit trees. Will put in a monitor to turn on water when needed the
most. Much easier to do that than to go around dragging a 100 foot hose.


i run one long hose to the middle of an
area and then use splitters to run shorter
lengths in different directions from there.

hoses aren't that expensive for the lighter
shorter ones. the long one i get a heavy
duty version for a few $ more. 20yrs on
the oldest hose. have to get new ends once
in a while.


songbird

The heat of summer here eats water hoses in a years time of being left
out in the sun. PVC is cheap, easy to handle, and, I've put in lots of
pvc piping at other homes over the years. Will bury about six inches
down and run them through the raised beds. I drill small holes on those
and then watch the water soak up to the surface.

Our beds are not that big, four by sixteen and four by eight X 2. May
add on the beds around the back fence at a later time, preferably in the
winter.

Our high temp today was 98F at 5PM, thank goodness for air conditioning.

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i've been trying to get the edamame soybeans
past sprout stage. the first batch were all
eaten by chipmunks as they sprouted.

....

buggers have eaten almost every one i planted
which sprouted.

so far i think i have about 4 plants out of
a few hundred seeds planted. i'm not sure i
will get any return from them until i harvest.
it's pretty late - i don't expect much of any
thing at all at this point.

not enough time to hunt or trap. the air-gun
needs a bit more sighting in with new ammo and
i haven't had any time for that either.

if i want a crop next year of these i'll have
to get a better fence and/or get the gun sighted
in and/or get the traps out again.

the bribes worked for a short period of time.
i needed them to work longer.


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On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 01:30:42 -0400, songbird
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songbird wrote:
...
i've been trying to get the edamame soybeans
past sprout stage. the first batch were all
eaten by chipmunks as they sprouted.

...

buggers have eaten almost every one i planted
which sprouted.

so far i think i have about 4 plants out of
a few hundred seeds planted. i'm not sure i
will get any return from them until i harvest.
it's pretty late - i don't expect much of any
thing at all at this point.

not enough time to hunt or trap. the air-gun
needs a bit more sighting in with new ammo and
i haven't had any time for that either.

if i want a crop next year of these i'll have
to get a better fence and/or get the gun sighted
in and/or get the traps out again.

the bribes worked for a short period of time.
i needed them to work longer.


songbird



Neither fencing nor netting keeps out the chipmunks around here. I put
mousetraps around the crops they favor. I am not looking to catch or
kill them, the *******s - just scare them away.


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Neither fencing nor netting keeps out the chipmunks around here. I put
mousetraps around the crops they favor. I am not looking to catch or
kill them, the *******s - just scare them away.


a very fine mesh with an electric run at the
top. all i need is for it to work long enough
to get the plants up and growing past their
first few leaves.

at the bottom you put it down a few feet out
(L shape) and cover it a little. they usually
won't figure out how to dig under that.

what is discouraging this year is that there
aren't really that many around, but the few that
are are very determined at hitting that particular
patch. i've sat with the air rifle to try to
get them, but haven't had the gun sighted in well
enough yet to get a sure shot. they don't sit
still long.

two years ago (i think it was) we trapped about
50 of them in a few weeks and that really did help
for the following year. they just keep coming
back and the semi-feral kitty isn't around any
longer to get some. she/he was good for a few a
week. rarely ever saw them leave without one in
their mouth.

ah well... better luck next year. hope i have
enough seeds left that will sprout or get enough
from these few plants.


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On 07/02/2017 10:30 PM, songbird wrote:
songbird wrote:
...
i've been trying to get the edamame soybeans
past sprout stage. the first batch were all
eaten by chipmunks as they sprouted.

...

buggers have eaten almost every one i planted
which sprouted.

so far i think i have about 4 plants out of
a few hundred seeds planted. i'm not sure i
will get any return from them until i harvest.
it's pretty late - i don't expect much of any
thing at all at this point.

not enough time to hunt or trap. the air-gun
needs a bit more sighting in with new ammo and
i haven't had any time for that either.

if i want a crop next year of these i'll have
to get a better fence and/or get the gun sighted
in and/or get the traps out again.

the bribes worked for a short period of time.
i needed them to work longer.


songbird


Speaking of bribes, my eggplant's leaves where just
skeletons with the leaf part missing. Couldn't figure
out who was eating them. Then one fateful night watering,
I discovered it was the stinking earwigs. Many have lost
their lives since then. And my leaves have recovered.

Those stinkers sure do love eggplant. And I know
where to find them at night. Sort of like catnip
for earwigs.

In the day, they love under my bag of peat moss. So
every afternoon, I rattle the bag and stomp away.
Down to one yesterday, from about 200 a few weeks ago.
A carnage ensued.

Death to Earwigs!


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On 7/8/2017 7:35 PM, T wrote:
On 07/02/2017 10:30 PM, songbird wrote:
songbird wrote:
...
i've been trying to get the edamame soybeans
past sprout stage. the first batch were all
eaten by chipmunks as they sprouted.

...

buggers have eaten almost every one i planted
which sprouted.

so far i think i have about 4 plants out of
a few hundred seeds planted. i'm not sure i
will get any return from them until i harvest.
it's pretty late - i don't expect much of any
thing at all at this point.

not enough time to hunt or trap. the air-gun
needs a bit more sighting in with new ammo and
i haven't had any time for that either.

if i want a crop next year of these i'll have
to get a better fence and/or get the gun sighted
in and/or get the traps out again.

the bribes worked for a short period of time.
i needed them to work longer.


songbird


Speaking of bribes, my eggplant's leaves where just
skeletons with the leaf part missing. Couldn't figure
out who was eating them. Then one fateful night watering,
I discovered it was the stinking earwigs. Many have lost
their lives since then. And my leaves have recovered.

Those stinkers sure do love eggplant. And I know
where to find them at night. Sort of like catnip
for earwigs.

In the day, they love under my bag of peat moss. So
every afternoon, I rattle the bag and stomp away.
Down to one yesterday, from about 200 a few weeks ago.
A carnage ensued.

Death to Earwigs!


Be careful T, the very large earwigs may track you down for stomping on
their babies. BG

We're bumping the high nineties here nearly every day. The other day it
rained on our subdivision two houses away from us but not on our garden.
Wife is wanting me to suit up and do a Cherokee/Choctaw rain dance.
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On 07/08/2017 05:46 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 7/8/2017 7:35 PM, T wrote:
On 07/02/2017 10:30 PM, songbird wrote:
songbird wrote:
...
i've been trying to get the edamame soybeans
past sprout stage. the first batch were all
eaten by chipmunks as they sprouted.
...

buggers have eaten almost every one i planted
which sprouted.

so far i think i have about 4 plants out of
a few hundred seeds planted. i'm not sure i
will get any return from them until i harvest.
it's pretty late - i don't expect much of any
thing at all at this point.

not enough time to hunt or trap. the air-gun
needs a bit more sighting in with new ammo and
i haven't had any time for that either.

if i want a crop next year of these i'll have
to get a better fence and/or get the gun sighted
in and/or get the traps out again.

the bribes worked for a short period of time.
i needed them to work longer.


songbird


Speaking of bribes, my eggplant's leaves where just
skeletons with the leaf part missing. Couldn't figure
out who was eating them. Then one fateful night watering,
I discovered it was the stinking earwigs. Many have lost
their lives since then. And my leaves have recovered.

Those stinkers sure do love eggplant. And I know
where to find them at night. Sort of like catnip
for earwigs.

In the day, they love under my bag of peat moss. So
every afternoon, I rattle the bag and stomp away.
Down to one yesterday, from about 200 a few weeks ago.
A carnage ensued.

Death to Earwigs!


Be careful T, the very large earwigs may track you down for stomping on
their babies. BG


They have nightmares about me! In them, they see a YUGE
shoe coming down on top of them. They scream NOOOOOOOOOO !!!

We're bumping the high nineties here nearly every day. The other day it
rained on our subdivision two houses away from us but not on our garden.
Wife is wanting me to suit up and do a Cherokee/Choctaw rain dance.


In is high 90 here too. My zukes love it. But they
do demand to be watered on a daily basis or they wilt.

Love it when we have thunderstorms. The nitrogen water gives
everything a growth spurt

Earwigs Must Die!
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On 7/8/2017 7:46 PM, George Shirley wrote:
On 7/8/2017 7:35 PM, T wrote:
On 07/02/2017 10:30 PM, songbird wrote:
songbird wrote:
...
i've been trying to get the edamame soybeans
past sprout stage. the first batch were all
eaten by chipmunks as they sprouted.
...

buggers have eaten almost every one i planted
which sprouted.

so far i think i have about 4 plants out of
a few hundred seeds planted. i'm not sure i
will get any return from them until i harvest.
it's pretty late - i don't expect much of any
thing at all at this point.

not enough time to hunt or trap. the air-gun
needs a bit more sighting in with new ammo and
i haven't had any time for that either.

if i want a crop next year of these i'll have
to get a better fence and/or get the gun sighted
in and/or get the traps out again.

the bribes worked for a short period of time.
i needed them to work longer.


songbird


Speaking of bribes, my eggplant's leaves where just
skeletons with the leaf part missing. Couldn't figure
out who was eating them. Then one fateful night watering,
I discovered it was the stinking earwigs. Many have lost
their lives since then. And my leaves have recovered.

Those stinkers sure do love eggplant. And I know
where to find them at night. Sort of like catnip
for earwigs.

In the day, they love under my bag of peat moss. So
every afternoon, I rattle the bag and stomp away.
Down to one yesterday, from about 200 a few weeks ago.
A carnage ensued.

Death to Earwigs!


Be careful T, the very large earwigs may track you down for stomping on
their babies. BG

We're bumping the high nineties here nearly every day. The other day it
rained on our subdivision two houses away from us but not on our garden.
Wife is wanting me to suit up and do a Cherokee/Choctaw rain dance.


We're using one of those on-wheels portable AC's. I collect the water
that it grabs from the humidity in the air and use it on my flowers in
the front yard. If I don't pour it directly onto the flowers, I pour it
into a large barrel on the front porch to use later.

We get several gallons of water from the air every day. It can increase
or decrease depending on the humidity in the air. Free water! I
sometimes will use it in the watering can and mix soluble flower
fertilizer into it, too, and then water individual flowers that need a
bloom booster.
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