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Is cabbage hard to grow?
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On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 6:39:57 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
Is cabbage hard to grow? Zone 6B No, the only problem I've had is with cabbage moth worms. They will wipe out a plant in days. Fortunately, Bt will solve the problem with regular applications. |
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T wrote:
Is cabbage hard to grow? Zone 6B if you don't like turnips why would you grow cabbage? bok choi may work if cabbage does not. like the other poster said, cabbage worms can be a real PITA, but you can cover the plants in a net and keep them off that ways. we grew cabbages once and they did well other than the bugs that ate them all the time - even when i was picking worms off every day and the wasps/hornets were doing their patrols they were still not able to keep up with the number of eggs being laid on them. we still did get a harvest but it wasn't worth it to us and i've not grown them since. Bt is a bacteria which is poisonous when ingested by bugs. http://npic.orst.edu/ingred/bt.html songbird |
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On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 7:27:59 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
On 2019-11-24 04:26, wrote: On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 6:39:57 AM UTC-5, T wrote: Is cabbage hard to grow? Zone 6B No, the only problem I've had is with cabbage moth worms. They will wipe out a plant in days. Fortunately, Bt will solve the problem with regular applications. what is Bt? Bacillis thuringensis (spelling?), I used to buy it under the trade name Dipel. |
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On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 7:27:59 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
On 2019-11-24 04:26, wrote: On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 6:39:57 AM UTC-5, T wrote: Is cabbage hard to grow? Zone 6B No, the only problem I've had is with cabbage moth worms. They will wipe out a plant in days. Fortunately, Bt will solve the problem with regular applications. what is Bt? There are many strains of Bt, generally they are specific to larvae of certain species. Dipel is specific to larvae of the genus Lepidoptera (moths and some butterflies). There are strains specific to potato beetle and mosquito larvae as well. |
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On 2019-11-24 05:16, songbird wrote:
if you don't like turnips why would you grow cabbage? Hi Songbird, I LOVE cabbage, not the flavor free blue type. I CAN'T STAND turnips. YUK! YUK! YUK! Speaking of turnips, Burpee is bragging about there new variety: Silky Sweet https://www.burpee.com/vegetables/tu...rod500775.html Hmmmm: a sweet turnip. I would probably hurl. bok choi may work if cabbage does not. Chinese cabbage. 1 cup: glycemic load of 1. Perfect. I am not finding the actual carbs as folk are doing that fraudulant "net carb" garbage on it, but if it is similar to regular cabbage, it woud be around 5 grams per cup, which is also perfect. I have to get some at the store and see how it tastes. Do these annoying pests go after Chinese cabbage too? |
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T wrote:
On 2019-11-24 05:16, songbird wrote: if you don't like turnips why would you grow cabbage? Hi Songbird, I LOVE cabbage, not the flavor free blue type. I CAN'T STAND turnips. YUK! YUK! YUK! Speaking of turnips, Burpee is bragging about there new variety: Silky Sweet https://www.burpee.com/vegetables/tu...-sweet-hybrid- prod500775.html Hmmmm: a sweet turnip. I would probably hurl. bok choi may work if cabbage does not. Chinese cabbage. 1 cup: glycemic load of 1. Perfect. I am not finding the actual carbs as folk are doing that fraudulant "net carb" garbage on it, but if it is similar to regular cabbage, it woud be around 5 grams per cup, which is also perfect. I have to get some at the store and see how it tastes. Do these annoying pests go after Chinese cabbage too? If you like Chinese cabbage, you might want to take a look at a variety called Vitamina. It's fast-growing and loves cool weather. It's an upright-growing napa cabbage type I found at Kitazawa seeds. Nyssa, who would grow it more often if her neighbors would help eat some of it, but they don't care much for Asian vegetables |
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On 2019-11-25 13:14, wrote:
T wrote: On 2019-11-24 04:26, wrote: On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 6:39:57 AM UTC-5, T wrote: Is cabbage hard to grow? Zone 6B No, the only problem I've had is with cabbage moth worms. They will wipe out a plant in days. Fortunately, Bt will solve the problem with regular applications. what is Bt? Bt is a biological agent (not a chemical poison) that is widely used in "organic" gardens. Bt {Bacilllus thuringiensis (k)} is an organism that when eaten by them kills ANY lepidotera—even the pretty ones—in its soft body instar (caterpillars and "worms") by stopping its digestive system from working. Widely available in a liquid concentrate and in a powder. Bt (i)) is effective exclusively on most mosquito species and is generally available as bouyant "dunks", which may be floated on standing water to eliminate larvae, and is less widely available in a granular form. Bt is highly selective, short lived, and affects only a very small universe of crawlies. It is harmless to other insects, including ants, wasps and bees, to reptiles and to mammals. Fascinating! They got one for squash bugs? |
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On 2019-11-25 13:26, Nyssa wrote:
T wrote: On 2019-11-24 05:16, songbird wrote: if you don't like turnips why would you grow cabbage? Hi Songbird, I LOVE cabbage, not the flavor free blue type. I CAN'T STAND turnips. YUK! YUK! YUK! Speaking of turnips, Burpee is bragging about there new variety: Silky Sweet https://www.burpee.com/vegetables/tu...-sweet-hybrid- prod500775.html Hmmmm: a sweet turnip. I would probably hurl. bok choi may work if cabbage does not. Chinese cabbage. 1 cup: glycemic load of 1. Perfect. I am not finding the actual carbs as folk are doing that fraudulant "net carb" garbage on it, but if it is similar to regular cabbage, it woud be around 5 grams per cup, which is also perfect. I have to get some at the store and see how it tastes. Do these annoying pests go after Chinese cabbage too? If you like Chinese cabbage, you might want to take a look at a variety called Vitamina. It's fast-growing and loves cool weather. It's an upright-growing napa cabbage type I found at Kitazawa seeds. Nyssa, who would grow it more often if her neighbors would help eat some of it, but they don't care much for Asian vegetables Thank you. I will look at Burpee -- no have. Rats. I can't get anything I get from Kitazawa to germinate. |
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On 11/24/2019 8:16 AM, wrote:
On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 7:27:59 AM UTC-5, T wrote: On 2019-11-24 04:26, wrote: On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 6:39:57 AM UTC-5, T wrote: Is cabbage hard to grow? Zone 6B No, the only problem I've had is with cabbage moth worms. They will wipe out a plant in days. Fortunately, Bt will solve the problem with regular applications. what is Bt? There are many strains of Bt, generally they are specific to larvae of certain species. Dipel is specific to larvae of the genus Lepidoptera (moths and some butterflies). There are strains specific to potato beetle and mosquito larvae as well. Â* There's even one that works very well on wax moths in my bee hives . Those wax moths will really mess up the comb if they get ahead of the bees . -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! |
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On 11/25/2019 5:35 PM, T wrote:
On 2019-11-25 13:14, wrote: T wrote: On 2019-11-24 04:26, wrote: On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 6:39:57 AM UTC-5, T wrote: Is cabbage hard to grow? Zone 6B No, the only problem I've had is with cabbage moth worms. They will wipe out a plant in days. Fortunately, Bt will solve the problem with regular applications. what is Bt? Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Bt is a biological agent (not a chemical poison) that is widely used in "organic" gardens. Â*Â*Â*Â*Bt {Bacilllus thuringiensis (k)} is an organism that when eaten by them kills ANY lepidotera—even the pretty ones—in its soft body instar (caterpillars and "worms") by stopping its digestive system from working.Â* Widely available in a liquid concentrate and in a powder. Â*Â*Â*Â*Bt (i)) is effective exclusively on most mosquito species and is generally available as bouyant "dunks", which may be floated on standing water to eliminate larvae, and is less widely available in a granular form. Â*Â*Â*Â*Bt is highly selective, short lived, and affects only a very small universe of crawlies.Â* It is harmless to other insects, including ants, wasps and bees, to reptiles and to mammals. Fascinating! They got one for squash bugs? Â* No , but diatomaceous earth works well on them . Kinda like rolling in a bag full of razor blades to an insect with a waxy carapace , the sharp edges abrade the waxy coating and they dry to death . -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! |
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"Nyssa" wrote in message ... T wrote: On 2019-11-24 05:16, songbird wrote: if you don't like turnips why would you grow cabbage? Hi Songbird, I LOVE cabbage, not the flavor free blue type. I CAN'T STAND turnips. YUK! YUK! YUK! Speaking of turnips, Burpee is bragging about there new variety: Silky Sweet https://www.burpee.com/vegetables/tu...-sweet-hybrid- prod500775.html Hmmmm: a sweet turnip. I would probably hurl. bok choi may work if cabbage does not. Chinese cabbage. 1 cup: glycemic load of 1. Perfect. I am not finding the actual carbs as folk are doing that fraudulant "net carb" garbage on it, but if it is similar to regular cabbage, it woud be around 5 grams per cup, which is also perfect. I have to get some at the store and see how it tastes. Do these annoying pests go after Chinese cabbage too? If you like Chinese cabbage, you might want to take a look at a variety called Vitamina. It's fast-growing and loves cool weather. It's an upright-growing napa cabbage type I found at Kitazawa seeds. Nyssa, who would grow it more often if her neighbors would help eat some of it, but they don't care much for Asian vegetables With enough Chinese/Napa cabbage you have the makings of pots and pots of KimChi. Mike |
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Bloke Down The Pub wrote:
"Nyssa" wrote in message ... T wrote: On 2019-11-24 05:16, songbird wrote: if you don't like turnips why would you grow cabbage? Hi Songbird, I LOVE cabbage, not the flavor free blue type. I CAN'T STAND turnips. YUK! YUK! YUK! Speaking of turnips, Burpee is bragging about there new variety: Silky Sweet https://www.burpee.com/vegetables/tu...-sweet-hybrid- prod500775.html Hmmmm: a sweet turnip. I would probably hurl. bok choi may work if cabbage does not. Chinese cabbage. 1 cup: glycemic load of 1. Perfect. I am not finding the actual carbs as folk are doing that fraudulant "net carb" garbage on it, but if it is similar to regular cabbage, it woud be around 5 grams per cup, which is also perfect. I have to get some at the store and see how it tastes. Do these annoying pests go after Chinese cabbage too? If you like Chinese cabbage, you might want to take a look at a variety called Vitamina. It's fast-growing and loves cool weather. It's an upright-growing napa cabbage type I found at Kitazawa seeds. Nyssa, who would grow it more often if her neighbors would help eat some of it, but they don't care much for Asian vegetables With enough Chinese/Napa cabbage you have the makings of pots and pots of KimChi. Mike Kim chi is something I avoid. The smell of the stuff was everywhere when I was in South Korea, especially in the public washrooms. ;) I did have a Korean programmer on my team who loved homemade kim chi. She said she and her husband liked it more than a good steak. Different strokes. Nyssa, who still has a couple of pots outside growing small lettuce and onions despite a few frost-filled nights |
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