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garden police gone wild?
So were these cops master gardeners too?
God help anyone who grows ornamental grasses!! You could get a life sentence!!!! If the cops had too much free time on their hands, they should have been spending it trying to track down real criminals instead of trying to force their sterile sense of aesthetics on the neighborhood. Then again, gardeners rarely shoot at them (unless they get them really ****ed off!!). Probably next you will hear some story about a cop that shot and killed someone who was coming toward them with a weed wacker and claiming it was self defense!!!! You can never be to careful when dealing with these criminal masterminds!!! Dave Allyn (Dave Allyn) wrote in message ... This reminds me of a neighbor just up the block: He got a notice from the town basically stating that if he didn't keep his grass less than 12 inches, he was going to be fined. Let me note that he has an immacculate lawn. no weeds, mows once a week to keep it perfect, etc... Needless to say he was abit upset. he called the town, and asked what was the deal, and where did they see grass to be cut? they looked up his address, and said the cops say tall grass on the north side of his garage. " Tell then they are F***'n Idiots!!! those are my day lillys!!!" click This discussion is very pertinent to me right now. I have a brand new bed (my 80 year old neighbor didn't recognize the difference between roundup and something specific for dandelions and killed off most of my parking strip.....LOL). So in the dead sod I planted giant grasses last fall, and bulbs, and early this spring planted (by seed) rows of tall and short wildflowers (tall in the center, short at the edges) Things like nemophila, linaria, poppies, california poppies, flax, bachelor buttons, dame's rocket, annual phlox, lupines, larkspur, foam flower, sweet alyssum, etc. Unfortunately, the only ones I recognize for sure, having grown them before, are poppies, california poppies, alyssum, and linaria.For a long time, I thought I would let everything grow and sort it all out later, but of course there's lots of grass coming up, as well as dandelions, and some other familar weeds of this area. (Most of the wildflower seeds also sprouted). My worst mistake was thinking that a certain spade-shaped leaf was something precious, but this past week, it has started to resemble something I recognized very well - BINDWEED!. Fortunately, all in the seedling stage, so easy to remove. I will report on it as an experiment, in the middle and at the end of the summer. It occured to me that most of these things will be bloomed out at the end of July, so I have planted some four-oclocks, cosmos, and lavatera to take over at the end of the summer. I'm sure my neighbors think I'm nuts as I stand on the street or sidewalk looking into this bed of what looks like a derelict waste garden intently, then reach down and pluck out a single plant here or there. I'm hoping that in 2 or 3 weeks, they will understand better what I was up to. email: daveallyn at bwsys dot net please respond in this NG so others can share your wisdom as well! |
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garden police gone wild?
On Fri, 30 May 2003 10:03:27 GMT, "Cereoid-UR12yo"
wrote: So were these cops master gardeners too? God help anyone who grows ornamental grasses!! You could get a life sentence!!!! If the cops had too much free time on their hands, they should have been spending it trying to track down real criminals instead of trying to force their sterile sense of aesthetics on the neighborhood. Then again, gardeners rarely shoot at them (unless they get them really ****ed off!!). Probably next you will hear some story about a cop that shot and killed someone who was coming toward them with a weed wacker and claiming it was self defense!!!! You can never be to careful when dealing with these criminal masterminds!!! The "weed police" in my town are part of the "codes & compliance" department, not actual cops. I doubt many are master gardeners, and the mistake about daylily foliage is a funny story. Most municiple codes relating to plant life are meant to prevent/reduce rampant overgrowth of weeds and plants that are a recognized nuisance to others. I very much doubt a carefully maintained landscape that included ornamental grasses would arouse any complaint. In fact, whether the basis is fire danger or aesthetics, local ordinances here ban uncontrolled weed/grass growth over 8 or 12" tall, which means one might possibly be perfectly safe in maintaining a "lawn" of dandelions! Not popular, to be sure, but not illegal. Beware, however, the term "eyesore." My goodness, there are a lot of people with sensitive eyes. From clotheslines to large (US) flags to trucks on the street, some are offended by anything that doesn't match their decor. I had a *real* cop come to my door one day about my harboring a "derelict" car in my driveway. I hope my licensed, inspected, registered, insured, and daily-driven elderly VW didn't hear this canard. |
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Frogleg wrote:
Beware, however, the term "eyesore." My goodness, there are a lot of people with sensitive eyes. From clotheslines to large (US) flags to trucks on the street, some are offended by anything that doesn't match their decor. I had a *real* cop come to my door one day about my harboring a "derelict" car in my driveway. I hope my licensed, inspected, registered, insured, and daily-driven elderly VW didn't hear this canard. That's enough to make one want to buy a *real* p.o.s. vehicle for $50 and park it out front -- with current license, of course. Just to **** people off who obviously enjoy being ****ed off. At least where I live, if the vehicle has current plates, there's nothing they can do about it if it's on your property. If it's parked on the street is has to be moved every 12 hours; never enforced, but it could be if the neighbors complain. Best regards, Bob |
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lazy cop didnt call in the license number. we have an old beater too. last time it
was hit it was totaled. but my DH works at local high school and the car has already been vandalized so why would we want a better car. school is only 1 mile away going to take another year to put it over 200K which is what we are waiting for... LOL. Ingrid I had a *real* cop come to my door one day about my harboring a "derelict" car in my driveway. I hope my licensed, inspected, registered, insured, and daily-driven elderly VW didn't hear this canard. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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garden police gone wild?
Our town was in the process of reworking its "nuisance vegetation"
ordinance. The first draft outlawed all plants that had any parts poisonous or injurious to humans or animals. We would have been left with nothing but lettuce! Regards, Dianna _______________________________________________ To reply, please remove "fluff" from my address. |
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You vote idiots into public office and that's what you get, Fluffy.
Most "nuisance vegetation" can be found on public property, especially median strips, trying to be passed off as landscaping! What about those trees and shrubs blocking traffic signs and with police cars hiding behind them looking for "speeders"? Dianna Visek wrote in message ... Our town was in the process of reworking its "nuisance vegetation" ordinance. The first draft outlawed all plants that had any parts poisonous or injurious to humans or animals. We would have been left with nothing but lettuce! Regards, Dianna _______________________________________________ To reply, please remove "fluff" from my address. |
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Oh you'd hate me as a neighbor. My median strip has no turf and a heavy dose of
Gaura linderheimerii. On Fri, 30 May 2003 20:17:57 GMT, "Cereoid-UR12yo" wrote: You vote idiots into public office and that's what you get, Fluffy. Most "nuisance vegetation" can be found on public property, especially median strips, trying to be passed off as landscaping! What about those trees and shrubs blocking traffic signs and with police cars hiding behind them looking for "speeders"? Dianna Visek wrote in message ... Our town was in the process of reworking its "nuisance vegetation" ordinance. The first draft outlawed all plants that had any parts poisonous or injurious to humans or animals. We would have been left with nothing but lettuce! Regards, Dianna _______________________________________________ To reply, please remove "fluff" from my address. |
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garden police gone wild?
Some of this stuff get done so people/govenrment can act on it, but
communal restrictions are often about making the neighborhood "look" good. Like laws they are often written by idiots who are qualified to deal with the subjects at hand. When I used to park on the street outside my building I found out that if you leave your car parked in the same spot three days the city can seize it as abandoned...which they did. The law is meant to enable police to get dead cars within 72 hours. However in my case I left a ticket on the window and some prick of a cop seized the car. Probably the same guy who would write tickets at 8:01 AM every street-cleaning day. The law was designed for seizing regular cars but assholes abuse them. DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email) |
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garden police gone wild?
day. The law was designed for seizing regular cars but assholes abuse
them. (not directed at you) let's not forget the idiots who made the laws required in the first place. if everyone would keep the grass mowed every few weeks there would be no need for the "nussence vegitation" laws in the first place. if people wouldn't abandon thier cars, those laws wouldn't be needed either. people do not have enough creativity to make up insane laws out of thier heads as preventive. there needs to be a case where someone says "there should be a law againat that" and then makes one. 99% of these laws had good intentions.. and were then abused, or made so broad where the intent was lost, and bordom of others saw and exploited. email: daveallyn at bwsys dot net please respond in this NG so others can share your wisdom as well! |
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garden police gone wild?
The real problem is neighbors not being good neighbors.
If one was willing to help out a fellow neighbor by volunteering to mow their lawn while they have their own mowers out, the neighborhood would be a more peaceful and harmonious place. Instead, the jerks are quick to call out the "garden police" if their neighbors don't conform to their own obsessive ideal. There are far too many self-centered vindictive assholes out there and that is what really needs to change. Too many laws are not well thought out and are enforced by those who go out of their way to find ways to abuse them. So called "neighborhood improvement organizations" are the biggest offenders for making up arbitrary rules and using them to harass those who they don't like. Those people really need to "get a life". Dave Allyn (Dave Allyn) wrote in message ... day. The law was designed for seizing regular cars but assholes abuse them. (not directed at you) let's not forget the idiots who made the laws required in the first place. if everyone would keep the grass mowed every few weeks there would be no need for the "nussence vegitation" laws in the first place. if people wouldn't abandon thier cars, those laws wouldn't be needed either. people do not have enough creativity to make up insane laws out of thier heads as preventive. there needs to be a case where someone says "there should be a law againat that" and then makes one. 99% of these laws had good intentions.. and were then abused, or made so broad where the intent was lost, and bordom of others saw and exploited. email: daveallyn at bwsys dot net please respond in this NG so others can share your wisdom as well! |
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garden police gone wild?
Cereoid-UR12yo wrote:
= The real problem is neighbors not being good neighbors. People have gotten away from going to the other person and discussing one-on-one the problem at hand. -- = J. Kolenovsky, A+, Network +, MCP =F4=BF=F4 - http://www.celestialhabitats.com - commercial =F4=BF=F4 - http://www.hal-pc.org/~garden/personal.html - personal webpag= es |
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garden police gone wild?
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 08:33:26 -0500, J Kolenovsky wrote:
People have gotten away from going to the other person and discussing one-on-one the problem at hand. There is always a neighbor nobody wants to say anything to. Of course, he lives next door to us. He shoots doves out of trees and eats them, has a stuffed wild boar head complete with huge tusks over his fireplace and hangs dead deer from the basketball hoop in the driveway. I reported him and he has a citation as a result. There are people you cannot talk to about anything. This same neighbor trapped another neighbors' cat and dumped it many miles away. Of course I warned the idiots who let the cat out that this would happen and it did. When the cat owners approached the asshole neighbor he would not tell them where he dumped the poor cat. Then the cat thief pointed his rifle at them and threatened to shoot the man AND his wife. So, the talking isn't always a good idea. |
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