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James Mayer 11-06-2003 02:32 AM

What's eating my cucumbers?
 
They are little worms that get in the cucumbers and in the stems,
killing the stems and boring holes all through the fingerlings. What
are they do and what I do to get rid of them, and what do they look
like as adults?

Pat Kiewicz 11-06-2003 11:20 AM

What's eating my cucumbers?
 
James Mayer said:

They are little worms that get in the cucumbers and in the stems,
killing the stems and boring holes all through the fingerlings. What
are they do and what I do to get rid of them, and what do they look
like as adults?


Possibly pickleworms. Not a pest I see here in Michigan. The adult is a moth.
Bt is likely to be of limited value as the larvae move into the fruit.

See: http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/ent/no...1e/veg001e.htm
--
Pat in Plymouth MI

Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
(attributed to Don Marti)


Jim Elbrecht 11-06-2003 02:32 PM

What's eating my cucumbers?
 
On 10 Jun 2003 18:31:42 -0700, (James Mayer) wrote:

They are little worms that get in the cucumbers and in the stems,
killing the stems and boring holes all through the fingerlings. What
are they do and what I do to get rid of them, and what do they look
like as adults?



My first guess would be cucumber beetles. [the larva feed on stems &
roots]
http://vegetablemdonline.ppath.corne...it_Beetles.htm

My vote for control is an insecticide that lists cucumber beetle as a
species it kills applied as the package directs.

Jim

FarmerDill 11-06-2003 05:08 PM

What's eating my cucumbers?
 
If the cucumbers have littles holes in them surrounded by frass, you have
encountered the dreaded pickleworm, which over winters in Texas and Florida,
then migrates North with warm weather, Only natural control is get the crop in
and out before they arrive which I am able to do here in GA. None of the
unrestricted insecticides will touch them.

Seeker 11-06-2003 10:32 PM

What's eating my cucumbers?
 
They are little worms that get in the cucumbers and in the stems,
killing the stems and boring holes all through the fingerlings. What
are they do and what I do to get rid of them, and what do they look
like as adults?


They grow up looking strangely like politicians when adults.



James Mayer 13-06-2003 02:32 AM

What's eating my cucumbers?
 
(FarmerDill) wrote in message ...
If the cucumbers have littles holes in them surrounded by frass, you have
encountered the dreaded pickleworm, which over winters in Texas and Florida,


I live in Florida. I guess that I'm stuck with them all year.

then migrates North with warm weather, Only natural control is get the crop in
and out before they arrive which I am able to do here in GA. None of the
unrestricted insecticides will touch them.


According to the package, sevin is an effective control if
applied more than 7 days apart and no more than 6 times per crop.

Pat Kiewicz 13-06-2003 11:56 AM

What's eating my cucumbers?
 
James Mayer said:

(FarmerDill) wrote in message

news:20030611120249.04036.00000615@mb-m2
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If the cucumbers have littles holes in them surrounded by frass, you have
encountered the dreaded pickleworm, which over winters in Texas and Florida,


I live in Florida. I guess that I'm stuck with them all year.


I suppose you could grow parthenocarpic cukes (don't need pollination) under
screens or row covers -- if you were sure there were no pickleworm pupae to
hatch out under your covers.

'Cool breeze' is suitable for pickling

https://www.territorial-seed.com/tes...ers/CU295.html

'Sweet success' is a nice slicer

http://www.seminisgarden.com/popular/sweetsuccess.html

There are other parthenocarpic varieties.

--
Pat in Plymouth MI

Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
(attributed to Don Marti)


FarmerDill 13-06-2003 04:56 PM

What's eating my cucumbers?
 

According to the package, sevin is an effective control if
applied more than 7 days apart and no more than 6 times per crop.



I have tried Sevin, Its life spna is too short to be effective, It is also
deadly to bees, so you have use a spray late in the evening. The extension
services recommendation is Thiodan but it is also very toxic to bees and I
would not recommend it especially on a cucumber.

James Mayer 13-06-2003 11:56 PM

What's eating my cucumbers?
 
(FarmerDill) wrote in message ...

According to the package, sevin is an effective control if
applied more than 7 days apart and no more than 6 times per crop.



I have tried Sevin, Its life spna is too short to be effective,


I sprayed mine about 3 or four days ago and have found no new
friss and or damaged stems since and some developing vegetables. I'll
give it a chance. It is better than doing nothing and getting
nothing.


It is also
deadly to bees, so you have use a spray late in the evening.


Since I have only about 8 plants or so I'll just spray them after
I get home from work and before I go to bed like I did the first time.


The extension
services recommendation is Thiodan but it is also very toxic to bees and I
would not recommend it especially on a cucumber.


Larry 20-06-2003 03:08 AM

What's eating my cucumbers?
 

"James Mayer" wrote in message
m...
They are little worms that get in the cucumbers and in the stems,
killing the stems and boring holes all through the fingerlings. What
are they do and what I do to get rid of them, and what do they look
like as adults?

I had the same problem and used BT, it worked great! I bought it under the
name thoughocide and it's supposed to work on almost any bug that has a
caterpillar like larva. By the way I also live in Florida.
Larry L.



lois 21-06-2003 03:20 AM

What's eating my cucumbers?
 
Try this - in an odorless spice jar with an airtight cap, mix 50-50
flour [any kind] and sevin. Its a bait [I tape all the holes but one
from underneath that cap for controlled pouring]

Sprinkle tiny dots about 2-3 inches apart near the stem. Repeat as
necessary.

Label well and store dry


zxcvbob 09-07-2003 09:08 PM

What's eating my cucumbers?
 
FarmerDill wrote:
According to the package, sevin is an effective control if
applied more than 7 days apart and no more than 6 times per crop.


I have tried Sevin, Its life spna is too short to be effective, It is also
deadly to bees, so you have use a spray late in the evening. The extension
services recommendation is Thiodan but it is also very toxic to bees and I
would not recommend it especially on a cucumber.



I was gonna say endosulfan, then realized that's the same thng as Thiodan.

I read this from North Carolina State University:
"The most important economic damage caused by the pickleworm is to the
fruit. Young pickleworms usually feed for a time among small leaves at
the growing tips of vines or within blossoms. A favorite place is the
large staminate flowers of squash where larvae hide under the ring of
stamens at the base of flowers. When about half grown, pickleworms
normally bore into the sides of fruits or stems and continue to feed
there, causing internal damage and producing soft excrement. Both young
and old fruits are attacked, but they prefer young fruits before the
rind has hardened."

So Bt *might* work before the worms bore into the fruits.

Best regards,
Bob

--
"Stealing a Rhinoceros should not be attempted lightly" --Kehlog Albran



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